Kamala not eligible!
Seems Ma and Pa played fast and loose with our laws…
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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
"Oakland is a city in the San Francisco Bay Area in the U.S. state of California."
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I see your legal mind is confused between citizen and natural born citizen.
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it's really so easy even a caveman . . . .
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JFC I hope this isn’t the hill we decide to storm….
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Wasted energy and effort on any actions regarding this stuff.
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I care. But under current law you just have to be
dumpedborn in the USA to be eligible to be the President. There is a whole industry dedicated to getting foreigners into the US to birth anchor babies. I want that changed. Team Dazzler and Kameltoe don't. -
Propose your amendment, Gasbag.
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Uh, how about one parent has to have been born in the USA or naturalized for 10 years with no illegal entry. That would get rid of the dumped in America approach of Team Dazzler.
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It's not going to enact itself. You'll need to get busy.
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Not enough America Firsters, too many commies like barry and Kameltoe's dads and Kameltoe and Tampon Tim.
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Dazzler won't look. He knows he's wrong he's just stirring the shit.
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The other gals on your team are urging you to drop this.
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They urged you to kill yourself, but here we are.
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Less than a full-throated defense of Mall Cop's latest insanity.
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Strip Mall Saul weighs in.
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I hate to agree with Hhusky but he's correct. This particular tim…
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Full-throated? We aren't talking about Democrats.
Hope this helps.
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Dazzler read none of the paperwork referenced. Zero. Bupkis.
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okay sludge
i laughed
thanks
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In January 2019, Democrat hopeful Kamala Harris announced her candidacy to be President of the United States. But, there's one glaring problem. Kamala Harris is not legally eligible to be President or Vice President.
[Edit 2020-08-12 ] In August of 2020, Joe Biden announced Kamala Harris as his pick for Vice President. Once again, this issue becomes relevant.
Legal Standards
The U.S. Constitution says that "no person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President." The Constitution was later amended to extend this requirement to the Vice President.
All persons who were citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution are long dead. Only the "natural born citizen" qualification remains in practical effect.
The key question is whether Kamala Harris is a "natural born citizen" of the United States. According to the clearly written definition, which has been acknowledged for over two centuries, if one of her parents was not a US Citizen at the time of her birth, she is not a natural born citizen.
When one examines the definition of the term and the purpose for including it in the Constitution, this becomes clear.
The Definition
"The first and governing maxim in the interpretation of a statute is to discover the meaning of those who made it." --James Wilson, Of the Study of Law in the United States, 1790
What is the source of the term, "natural born citizen"? It is defined in the internationally published reference book, "Law of Nations", penned by Emmerich de Vattel in 1758. The definition states:
"The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens." - Law of Nations
This is the one and only definition of the term, understood in international and US law, that existed when the Constitution was crafted. Its meaning has remained consistent for centuries as recognized by US law.
"This 1758 work by Swiss legal philosopher Emmerich de Vattel is of special importance to scholars of constitutional history and law, for it was read by many of the Founders of the United States of America, and informed their understanding of the principles of law which became established in the Constitution of 1787." - Constitution Society regarding "Law of Nations"
Did The Framers Rely Upon Law of Nations?
The historical record shows that "Law of Nations" was a primary reference used to craft the US Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution. In 1775, as the Founders determined to create their own nation from scratch, Benjamin Franklin received three copies of the original French edition from the editor Dumas for use by the Continental Congress.
"I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the Law of Nations. Accordingly, that copy which I kept has been continually in the hands of the members of our congress..." - Benjamin Franklin’s letter to Charles W.F. Dumas, December 1775
"Law of Nations" was in use by many other nations as well, printed in several languages including French, English and German, to ensure heads of state understood principles and language to be used in international relations. It is still in print today as a reference book and is still used by the Supreme Court in Constitutional rulings. [i]
By 1780, "Law of Nations" was a standard textbook in American universities. By 1787, it was well understood by the Framers of the Constitution and the nation as a whole. There was no need to debate the meaning of "natural born citizen" as the Framers crafted the Constitution. It was a commonly understood term.
Law of Nations is the only reference book named in the Constitution itself, empowering the Federal Government to enforce its clauses:
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations; - US Constitution, Article 1, Section 8
Kamala Harris Is Not A Natural Born Citizen
Kamala Harris was born October 20, 1964, in Oakland, California. Her mother was a Tamil Indian, her father a Jamaican. Both were immigrants who had not naturalized, thus were not citizens, when Kamala was born.
Obama wasn't natural born either. Natural born was to prevent foreign countries from having their operative elected here. Yet here we are with card carrying commies in the highest offices. -
You got her, Mall Cop!
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In the larger electorate NOC.
Zero votes to be swayed toward Trump chasing these pipe dreams prior to the election.
All it does is give @HHusky an excuse to shit his straw men all over a thread.
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Nice. But that isn't what the Courts have ruled. And they won't. Probably take an amendment and there is no way it would get through the Congress let alone 3/4 of the states.
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What rulings?
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If it is, Trump will lose.
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United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898)
169 U.S. 649 (1898)
Share“[T]he Fourteenth Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens . . . ”
Justice Horace Gray (Majority)
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Regular citizenship not the same. But since they cheated Barry in were done. Anyone can be president.
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Regular citizenship isn't the issue. You can't be President if you aren't born in the USA or if you don't have a US citizen as a parent. As I said, current law says Harris is eligible to be President. You would need a Supreme Court decision overturning or qualifying Ark or a Constitutional Amendment to get there. Stop digging.
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You're embarrassing the other cultists.
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You're embarrassing the other cultists.
No dummy, we Trump/USA supporters can disagree on these type of things precisely because we aren’t in a cult that demands complete conformity to the cause.OTOH, get three of you Dem cultists converging in a thread and it’s a pathetic display of mutual affirmation for and from each other in some weird internet circlejerk ritual. It’s fucking bizarre, Bethany.
