On the 159th anniversary of popping a cap in Booth's ass - The Unions Greatest Civil War Victory
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Vicksburg - 1863
Back in sync
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Vicksburg - 1863
In my mind, Gettysburg has always been a bit overrated as an American victory. Yes, a loss their would have been catastrophic, but because Meade was such a pussy and let Lee escape, it didn't have much an impact on the overall strategic picture the way Vicksburg did. Gettysburg was just a big bloody mess with a massive home field advantage.
Vicksburg was going balls deep into enemy territory and ripping their guts out. And it got Grant on Lincoln's radar like never before, which is how the war was ultimately won.
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Vicksburg - 1863
Thud.
Don't any of you millennial douche canoes go to any Civil War battlefields ( @whlinder ) or have miniature reenactments?
Sad how far America has fallen.
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Gettysburg - 1863
Like we say, no.
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Vicksburg - 1863
It's OK. I've never been to a Civil War battlefield either.
Would like to see Gettysburg someday.
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Antietam - 1862
Millennial?
Ah hell naw
I went to Gettysburg like 3 weeks ago.
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Gettysburg - 1863
I'm hearing that Vantage will be the site of the 2nd Civil War.
If I grew up in the South I think I'd care more about the Civil War. I'm much more into the history of WW1 and WW2 when men were men and America knew how to fuck shit up to win a war. -
Atlanta & Sherman's March to the Sea - 1864
He knew how to kick ass and burn any evidence. Hamas should hire him - well someone like him being he dead.
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Overland Campaign (i.e., Grant committed to running the damn ball) - 1864
There’s a civil war battlefield in a place called Perryville or some shit like that. It’s a state park/memorial now and about an hour from Lexington.
I was going out that way and left early so I could stop and see the place. Fucking hate to the park was closed at 1pm on a Friday. That’s the closest I’ve ever been to a civil war battlefield unless you count some hiking in Chattanooga.
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Antietam - 1862
Civil war stuff is everywhere in this part of the country. Beyond just the battlefields, the names of everything are from that era. Now with the moves to change the names of things which were named for the losing side it can be utterly confusing to navigate certain areas I spent a lot of time in back in the day.
Part of this is due to living as an adult in the suburban bubble where everything was built new in the past 25 years vs growing up closer in to DC where the original names for things were set much further in the past.
Lee Highway. Jefferson-Davis Highway. Lee High School. Mosby Highway. Lee Jackson highway. There are a bunch more and they’ve all been changed now. I never even realized how ingrained it was in the area until names started to be changed.
I’ve been to Gettysburg, Antietam, Bull Run, some battlefield near Fredericksburg VA, Appomattox courthouse and a couple of memorials in Fredericksburg and Richmond. I should focus more on the Civil war and get my ancestor’s diaries transcribed. But I find WW2 way more interesting. I guess due to the global nature of it and the recency.
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Overland Campaign (i.e., Grant committed to running the damn ball) - 1864
One thing I’ve noticed when I look at American military history books is that there’s a ton of Civil War, WWII, and Vietnam material but not nearly as much Revolution or WWI material.
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Vicksburg - 1863
World War 1 was not all that popular in America. Its the cause of sedition laws and other laws to stop dissent
It was also in the 4th quarter when the US squad showed up
A really stupid brutal and pointless war
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We’re good at those kind of wars.
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Vicksburg - 1863
Arguably, the most pointless and stupid war in history. I've come around to the school of thought which considers WW1 and WW2 basically the same war, just with a 20 year half time.
You're right though @CFetters_Nacho_Lover there's not enough WW1 literature out there. Max Hasting's 1914 is recommended, of course. WW1 created all the isms of the 20th and so many of the conflicts we see today. The Jew - Arab fight really started to get its reads down as a result of WW1 and @Lawrence_of_a_Labia taking it to the Ottomans. It's too bad today's yoots on college campuses (TITTT) are so profoundly ignorant of the history of the Middle East.
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Overland Campaign (i.e., Grant committed to running the damn ball) - 1864
At one of our Hardcore Husky get togethers last year we did a reenactment of the Grenada invasion
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Vicksburg - 1863
I get why my history pods think WW2 is more interesting than the US Civil War- i.e., the scale, the crazy dictators, the weaponry, etc.
What personally find move interesting about the Civil War is that it was the ultimate "tweener" war of the between the pre-industrial Napoleonic War and the Industrial Death of WW1.
The Civil War had so many firsts…
- First War where choos choos played a key role
- Crimean War had use of telegraph to communicate between capitals and Generals, but the Civil War took this to the next level
- First naval battle between armored boats
- WW1 style trench warfare was invented at Cold Harbor and Petersburg (how stupid where the Euros to not see how this would play out when you add machine guns and bolt action rifles?)
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Overland Campaign (i.e., Grant committed to running the damn ball) - 1864
Fun fact I recently learned. The first American submarine attack was ordered by George Washington against a British warship anchored near New York.
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Vicksburg - 1863
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Vicksburg - 1863
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F.O. Row Peter Puffer, you left off...
2024 Sugar Bowl
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Vicksburg - 1863
We came that close to losing Samsung
And the North almost went 3 and 0 in civil wars
It's amazing how tuff the commies fight and how shitty they govern
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Vicksburg - 1863
I've got TL; DR thought on this.
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Antietam - 1862
You know when a good time would be to see Antietam, Gettysburg and a few other Civil War sites?
The weekend of UW @ PSU.
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Vicksburg - 1863
I think it's interesting to contrast how TUFF the NORKS foughts vs the NVA/VC, as well as the shitty governance.
The NORKs never struck me as TUFF. They folded like a house of cards after Incheon and had to get bailed out by Mao. Granted, in this instance the US did invade the North and the ground was more favorable of US Military strengths as opposed to the terrain of Vietnam. But still the Vietminh, NVA/VC took a 30 year beating from the French and US and still came out on top.
Re: shitty governance, obviously the North was Stalinist as fuck for some time, but they've started to get their reads down and enjoy every improving relations with the US. Hell, there's actual REAL Hiltons in Hanoi now. They hate the Chinese more than we do, so there's a potential ally here as well.
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Atlanta & Sherman's March to the Sea - 1864
TeCUMsahs
I honestly just love that part of the timeline, sent the south reeling.
Gettysburg is great, would recommend and I was last there 26 years ago. The expanse of the battlefield and then the number of participants and deaths is kind of wild. Where as a lot of battlefields have not been as preserved, with Kum & Go's standing where generals once planned, Gettysburg is still pretty close to what it looked like. The amount of memorials help put it in perspective.
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Shilo - 1862
Shiloh…Put Grant in consideration for the Heisman.. The body count alone was enough, but taking into consideration that the Confederacy had a punchers chance to break through Grant’s line and whiskey dicked it away after Johnny Reb Johnston perished in battle, has got to be one of the all time fumbles on the field. Blaze of Glory is a quick and great read if you’re interested. I’ve visited the site a couple of times. Lots to take in and the sites are easy to navigate by yourself.
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Vicksburg - 1863
Gettysburg I still think has to be #1 on everyone's list of US battlefields to see based on all the landmarks and the scale of the fight (biggest engagement of all time in the Western Hemisphere). Some day when the kids are a little older I'm gonna fly out to DC, do a wellness check on @Swaye and then take out kids on a tour of our nation's capital plus some of the most famous VA, MD and PA battlefields. Maybe we'll make it up to MA to see Lexington Green.
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Vicksburg - 1863
Shilo is infamous because it was the first major blood bath of the war- i.e., the moment when both sides knew it was going to be a long bloody struggle.
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Atlanta & Sherman's March to the Sea - 1864
Shenandoah valley has a number of smaller battle fields. Basically from east of Dulles and then down the valley saw a lot of action. I've been out there multiple times and have never taken the tim to stop. Last time @Swaye ignored my pm's knowing I'd roofy him and have my way with him. Though I've heard rumors he built up an immunity for 'recreational' purposes. I'm guessing his beard softened him up a bit. Be prepared to be confused by the random person wearing James Madison Univ. gear. Its almost identical to UW gear and I have to keep my desire to yell 'Go Dawgs' to complete strangers in check.
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Overland Campaign (i.e., Grant committed to running the damn ball) - 1864
This thread is timely. Mrs Nacho is down for a road trip to Gettysburg then northern Maryland to visit her cousins.
For those who've been to Gettysburg, how many days would I need to take it all in and please keep in mind I'll be accessing the park on my mobility scooter.
