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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,904

    Good point! How could anyone trained in special education possibly know anything about autism?

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,904

    “Most likely not realizing that his teacher was going against Brendan’s IEP, the teacher requested that Brendan’s Nintendo Switch be sent into school daily.

    The group home’s behavioral analyst reluctantly and prematurely went along with this request. It was premature, because the IEP team had not been consulted.


    Reading is FUNdamental, Gasbag.

  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    he most likely should be put down. Can’t be controlled. Institutionalization is too expensive.

  • EverettChris
    EverettChris Member Posts: 7,984 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2024

    My takeaway is H has an autistic kid he deep down wishes had been aborted. Just based on what he actually takes the time to post about instead of straight to insults.

  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,117 Founders Club

    Sure.Gif

    I notice you haven't contributed to the discussion of sources.

    Avoiding That like the plague.

  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    The one point that has merit worth discussing HH mentioned is that the schools are being asked to educate kids with all manner of serious behavioral and/or mental issues. I know nothing about this kid, but being married to an educator has opened my eyes to what we expect of schools/teachers/administrators. Some serious mental issues (and many with violent tendencies) being pushed through a system that is completely underfunded and incapable of dealing with them. Typical elementary school around here has one behavioral specialist that is shared amongst two other schools, and all three of the schools have over a dozen "serious instability kids." That is code for "future prison inmate." Specialist may get 20 minutes a week with many of them. Throw in ESL and typical classroom clown stuff and schools are usually completely overwhelmed and totally understaffed for dealing with many of these kids.

    HH is correct though, WE as a society have said "we must educate all kids!" But it is sort of like prison, we know we want people locked up and are then happy it is out of sight out of mind. Schools are much the same way. Many of them are little mini war zones where everyone - teachers, admin, students (good and bad) and parents are all struggling together. Generally speaking, parents of the "at risk kids" are beyond shitty now. Useless in most cases. "Can you fix my kid?" Not "what can I do to fix my kid." It's a mess. So, I think the conversation we need to be having as a society, but won't, is what kids are worth saving. Plain and simple many of these kids are never going to contribute meaningfully to society, and everyone knows it by third grade. Parents are a mess, Dad's in prison, Mom is a welfare lay about, and junior is an unholy terror at school complete with throwing tables and chairs - yet we still try to find a way to contain these little menace creatures enough to not seriously injure anyone while they ruin the classroom experience for all the other kids who might actually want to learn.

    Our county has a special classroom segment where they send the absolute terrors. All of them go to one school to keep them contained together. Like a zoo for shitheads. But, the program is over capacity so even after a year of testing when it is found that a child should be placed in this special setting there is no room. So they are left in GenEd to create havok for everyone forever. Every school has a student resource officer (a cop) and none of them are allowed to even touch an unruly child. What a bizarre world we live in. Anyway these are the discussions we should be having. What are the limits of responsibility for a school district? What are parental responsibilities? When can a student be cut loose for the greater good? None of these discussions will ever be had of course, because an army of shit lawyers are hovering looking for any reason to sue a school district for a payday, and so schools will by and large stay shitty menace incubators and glorified kid care romper rooms while staff burnout, teachers leaving the profession and violent children hurting others continue to skyrocket.

    This particular man-beast who assaulted the teacher should go to prison for years. Any attempt to place the blame on the school is a farce.

  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    Excellent point. My shitpost above never clearly makes this point, but it is an absolute no-win situation for many school districts. Underfunded, scared of lawsuits and absolutely ZERO ability to discipline kids at all (I mean there is NO discipline in schools anymore - it is shocking to someone who went to school in Texas in the 80s where they still whipped our asses and guess what classrooms were quiet, weird).

  • georgiaduck
    georgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,608 Swaye's Wigwam

    A woman I know is a teacher in North Carolina. She told me in her district if the teacher/admin suggests counseling for a student, the District is on the hook for the bill.

    Some incentive to get involved.

    That's ok- it's only 20 or 25 to one ratio of teacher student ratio. No need to have parents be involved here- Until there's a check to be cut from a payout.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,904

    I dare you to read the mother’s post and tell me she was uninvolved with her kid. Whether a kid with these issues should be in a regular school environment is, as Swaye has also pointed out, a legitimate question. The mom had those doubts herself but no great alternatives.

    You can’t counsel autistic kids not to be disabled, unfortunately. If you are charged with their education, it requires a fairly active and strategic approach.

  • EverettChris
    EverettChris Member Posts: 7,984 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2024

    I double dog dare you!!!

    Loser thinks the school district/taxpayers should pay because the kid is a violent retard who plays video games at school instead of learning.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,789 Standard Supporter

    We need mental hospitals desperately. The number of people wondering our streets, of all ages, that are crazy enough to be dangerous is off the charts. Is that why we see mass shooting by loons more? Or is it just MK Ultra or abundance?

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,904

    Seems to me some of the “pro-lifers/Christians” here have looked at this situation and concluded that disability is a character flaw requiring incarceration. It’s unclear whether they would simply place the kid in the general population with its foreseeable consequences or provide the expensive care he requires to him in prison.

    Perhaps they should think of him as a former fetus(?).

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,789 Standard Supporter

    You have a reading problem. RIF dipshit. A mental hospital isn't a penal colony. You should know from experience.

  • georgiaduck
    georgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,608 Swaye's Wigwam

    From the Mother's article

    "Unfortunately, the medications did little to improve Brendan’s condition and had onerous side effects: he gained over 100 pounds in a year, making it challenging for us to manage him. Following guidance from healthcare professionals, I reached out to our local police to have Brendan placed under a Baker Act whenever his aggression resurfaced and we could no longer physically calm him down as we once could when he was smaller, by wrapping our arms around him."

    So the parents realized the meds had side effects (who knew) and that he was a physical challenge. By all means - send him to a public school instead of homeschooling him as you did at an earlier age. You know- where the danger to smaller people would be of greater importance than his need for socialization.

    "We have lived with the unintended consequences of small and various factors that at times snowball into devastating results for many years. It is never malice or even negligence, but an accumulation of seemingly minor and even reasonable and well-intended acts that somehow reach a critical mass no one would have expected. This is what appears to have happened."

    No one could have expected this- with the exception of the parents who had to get police involved due to his size. By all means- have the school district get out the checkbook.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,904

    Yes, if we entirely ignore the extensive documentation of his condition in the school’s possession we can safely return to blaming these desperate parents. Good call!

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,904

    I said “some”, Mall Cop. Your suggestion is almost kind. Congratulations.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,789 Standard Supporter

    I've made this point for years. If you actually knew how many dangerous loons walk the streets you'd shit yourself. Again.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,904

    If I actually knew?

    I'm not hiding out in Bumfuck, ID. I live in Seattle. I know.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,789 Standard Supporter

    And you support them walking the streets. Got it. Guess you live close to the Tool Box so you don't have to dodge too many.

  • EverettChris
    EverettChris Member Posts: 7,984 Standard Supporter

    Some of us can afford to move to more serene and quiet locales after building careers in cities.

    Couldn’t pay me enough to move back to an urban sh*thole governed by retards just like you.

  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,013 Standard Supporter

    So you are all for parents sending a dangerous kid into a school and expecting the teachers aides to do the work of a parent.

    Got it.

    Not only does that make your perspective really fucked up, it also means you are a horrible parent if put in that position. Please don't get rid of wife #4 and marry that 20 something that wants kids at your age.

    For all the readers who have a sane perspective, these adoptive parents have been through hell with this kid. God bless them for taking this challenge on. It seems they have done everything possible to treat this kid, showered him with love, paid for medication, therapy, special ed, schooled him at home. The problem is, when they couldn't handle him, they clearly sent him to the school, the very school they are now trying to sue. After watching the video again, the other teachers who came upon the beating and did nothing in the moment? That is all the more reason the teachers aide should sue. The kid was treated with kit (kid) gloves. There was no physical retribution but they had to call the cops. The parents have zero reason to sue and I blame them for that. After a life time of work on this kid, why would they claim someone else didn't do right by a mentally ill individual.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,904

    Interesting shot for you to take at me. As I recall, as between us, only I am still in my first marriage. You must be feeling a little defensive.

    As for the parents, since you apparently read the Mom's story, you should know how she says her own reluctance to send the kid to school was overcome and the extensive work done to plan and manage the process. And the "suit" at this point is simply for an administrative hearing seeking to require the district to provide the services the parents allege it failed to provide. It isn't in court; it's before an ALJ.

  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,013 Standard Supporter

    Yes I know you are on your first marriage. I know who your wife is. Good for you for beating the odds and having a long happy marriage. I am actually happy for you on that. It is way too uncommon. I was trying to be ironical about liberals.

    Your stance on the family suing the school is still fucked up.

  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,246 Standard Supporter

    Ambulance chasing attorney doesn't believe in any modicum of self accountability for one's actions. More on this at 11!

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,937 Founders Club
  • EverettChris
    EverettChris Member Posts: 7,984 Standard Supporter

    H the bigot is upset he is too old to join in on the real-life violence of today’s Jew-bashing yoots. His crowd lacked the balls.