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  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,509 Standard Supporter

    At this point, break and tire debris from EVs are more harmful to the atmosphere than ICE emissions.


    But there’s no money to be made with that argument so we do t talk about it

  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    edited April 2024

    There isn't a way to come to any sort of meaningful conclusion from the chart as presented. It's a global issue based on volume. Per capita is a more accurate description of who is contributing than a 25 year percentage growth/decay, and China/India's growth is largely population/industrialization related. The United States was already heavily industrialized, and the population hasn't grown as quickly. And therefore our volumetric input has gone from bad to slightly less bad. It's not meaningful and it shouldn't be used to excuse our contribution. You have to understand the boundary conditions at t = t(0) t and t = t(n) to make any sort of meaningful conclusion about a trend. That all being said, every country is responsible for improving. This isn't a whataboutism thing.

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  • EverettChris
    EverettChris Member Posts: 8,657 Standard Supporter

    Carbon Dioxide output is not catastrophic in impacting the global climate and is roughly .04% of the atmosphere at most.

    China has it correct and will rule the global economy within 40 years as Leftists in the West try to control their citizens and unnecessarily price the poor out of personal vehicles and eventually basic energy for their homes. Add in the retards like most Democrats here who believe this bullshit premise in the first place and it’s fantasy land as a deliberate lowering of standard of living is happening and people like @CallMeBigErn are advocates for it.

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,962 Standard Supporter

    I've posted on the green gai religious fraud for years. CO2 has another useful description otherwise known as plant food. In 2000 we were told that the ice caps would be melted and New York City would be under water by now and that the world's food supply would be decimated. Instead, world grain production is up and the ice caps are still there and New York City isn't under water. And US CO2 production is down since 2000 and China now produces twice the CO2 of the US. The solution is for the US to freeze in the dark to save the world while the chicoms continue to increase CO2 production and have a filthy environment with most of their water, surface and underground, is massively polluted. We just need to spend a few trillion on Chinese solar panels, wind turbines and all the necessary minerals and metals to produce expensive, dirty and non-reliable "renewable energy". 12,000 years ago Chicago was under a mile of ice. Then it wasn't. Damn cave man SUVs.

  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    edited April 2024

    Forgive the 8 year old chart. I found 2022 and it's more or less the same. America has dropped to 14.44 tons per capita. So yes, we are improving, which is good. It's not like China is completely going backwards with a coal boom here while we grovel with regulations. We still spit out 4x the CO2 they do per capita. And they have taken drastic measures in the last year, their "green" economy is booming with renewable energy and electric vehicles. Added 1.6 trillion to the Chinese economy last year which is ridic. They are outpacing us in that area, no doubt. Yes their contributions are still high, as is ours, as is everyone's. Also, fuck China, don't get me wrong here.

  • EverettChris
    EverettChris Member Posts: 8,657 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2024

    China is currently building hundreds of new coal plants while we’re tearing down even dams for fish and telling coal industry workers “learn to code.” It’s so fucking dumb but here we are.

    Tell me what wonders China is doing. LMAO

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/15/china-boosts-global-coal-power.html

    • A report by Global Energy Monitor found that net coal capacity grew by 48.4 GW in 2023, with China accounting for about two-thirds of new coal plant capacity. 
    • China started construction on 70.2 GW of new coal-power capacity last year, almost 20 times the rest of the world’s 3.7 GW.