Cuog is the single most disadvantaged? Least advantaged? by location FBS program in the nation, and OS is probably #2. Ames, Iowa is closer to Minneapolis, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, KC, STL, Dallas, HOUSTON, etc, etc, etc, than Pullman is to LA. JFC, it's closer to the eastern seaboard than WSU is to LA.
Yeah the places I hear compared to Pullman like Manhattan, Kansas or Stillwater, Oklahoma are really closes to the major cities in their states. Ames as well and Ames is a shorter drive to Chicago than Pullman is Seattle and you don't have to cross a massive mountain range to do it.
That Pullman became and still is the school it is really can be confounding.
I usually rate Pullman 1 and Manhattan 2 in terms of toughest to access (former) power 5 towns. Followed by State College, Corvallis, Blacksburg and Ames (in some order).
Pullman is a good 30 mins closer to Spokane than Manhattan is to Kansas City, but KC is a way bigger city and you can get an easier flight in there.
I forgot about Lincoln which isn't that big and an hour from Omaha.
Portland OR #33, 7.2m
Kansas City #44, 4.7m
Omaha #62, 2.1m
Oklahoma City #69, 1.9m
Spokane #71, 1.9m
Des Moines, #82 1.3m
Eugene #106, .7m
Harrisburg #113, .6m
Roanoke #158, .3m (VaTech)
Lincoln, Manhattan, State College and Pullman don't even show up in the top 200, which cuts off at 127K passengers per year. They've got flights but it's only to like 1-3 cities. I'm not going to dig in other databases to compare the size of these pennies.
Corvallis sucks but 100 mins to Portland and you can go most places, plus Eugene is closer. Manhattan is 2 hours from the KC airport and even further from Wichita. Pullman is closer to Spokane but that is the only option other than 5 hours to Seattle. State College is a fucking pain but within 3:45 gets you to Philly, DC, Baltimore and Pittsburgh, plus a little bit more to NYC. My kid's PSU club travel tennis team is going to Sacramento tomorrow for some big USTA college tennis club event; they have to bus 3:30 to Dulles but at least get a nonstop flight out of it.
All of these places are PITAs to get to; think I've been to all except Pullman, Ames and Stillwater. Pullman still ranks toughest because Spokane is so much smaller than KC (for Manhattan to drive) and there are literally no other options to get there except drive forever. Multiple options are valuable.
Good call, always forget about TxTech. Lubbock comes in at #129 on the airport list. It's a long haul driving to a major city but it is 2-3x the size of Manhattan and you can fly nonstop to a few places (Dallas, Houston, Denver, Austin, Vegas). I would probably put it #3 due to its air connectivity and larger size, but I prefer planes over driving whenever possible.
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Cuog is the single most disadvantaged? Least advantaged? by location FBS program in the nation, and OS is probably #2. Ames, Iowa is closer to Minneapolis, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, KC, STL, Dallas, HOUSTON, etc, etc, etc, than Pullman is to LA. JFC, it's closer to the eastern seaboard than WSU is to LA.
Pullman is about 100 miles closer to LA than Seattle is. Don’t think that’s their problem.
What stupid fucking post, of course it is. Location, location, location.
Was just in Pullman last weekend. Damn long drive. That's all I have to say about that.
Yeah the places I hear compared to Pullman like Manhattan, Kansas or Stillwater, Oklahoma are really closes to the major cities in their states. Ames as well and Ames is a shorter drive to Chicago than Pullman is Seattle and you don't have to cross a massive mountain range to do it.
That Pullman became and still is the school it is really can be confounding.
I usually rate Pullman 1 and Manhattan 2 in terms of toughest to access (former) power 5 towns. Followed by State College, Corvallis, Blacksburg and Ames (in some order).
Pullman is a good 30 mins closer to Spokane than Manhattan is to Kansas City, but KC is a way bigger city and you can get an easier flight in there.
Forgot about Spokane.
Isn't Corvallis actually easier to get to than Eugene? I know there's an airport there but imagine flights are indirect and expensive.
State College is a pain in the ass to get to
Eugene has commercial flights, Corvallis does not. Eugene effectively serves as the commercial airport for Corvallis.
https://www.bts.gov/topics/airlines-and-airports/airport-rankings-2022
I forgot about Lincoln which isn't that big and an hour from Omaha.
Portland OR #33, 7.2m
Kansas City #44, 4.7m
Omaha #62, 2.1m
Oklahoma City #69, 1.9m
Spokane #71, 1.9m
Des Moines, #82 1.3m
Eugene #106, .7m
Harrisburg #113, .6m
Roanoke #158, .3m (VaTech)
Lincoln, Manhattan, State College and Pullman don't even show up in the top 200, which cuts off at 127K passengers per year. They've got flights but it's only to like 1-3 cities. I'm not going to dig in other databases to compare the size of these pennies.
Corvallis sucks but 100 mins to Portland and you can go most places, plus Eugene is closer. Manhattan is 2 hours from the KC airport and even further from Wichita. Pullman is closer to Spokane but that is the only option other than 5 hours to Seattle. State College is a fucking pain but within 3:45 gets you to Philly, DC, Baltimore and Pittsburgh, plus a little bit more to NYC. My kid's PSU club travel tennis team is going to Sacramento tomorrow for some big USTA college tennis club event; they have to bus 3:30 to Dulles but at least get a nonstop flight out of it.
All of these places are PITAs to get to; think I've been to all except Pullman, Ames and Stillwater. Pullman still ranks toughest because Spokane is so much smaller than KC (for Manhattan to drive) and there are literally no other options to get there except drive forever. Multiple options are valuable.
Corvallis feels like just an hour from Portland if you don't follow their bullshit state mandatory 50 mph limit.
Eugene feels/felt much more remote by comparison.
Pullman #1
Lubbock #2
The lack of love for Laramie,WY is astounding.
Good call, always forget about TxTech. Lubbock comes in at #129 on the airport list. It's a long haul driving to a major city but it is 2-3x the size of Manhattan and you can fly nonstop to a few places (Dallas, Houston, Denver, Austin, Vegas). I would probably put it #3 due to its air connectivity and larger size, but I prefer planes over driving whenever possible.
Never had the disgrace of having to fly to Eugene but don't you have to almost assuredly stop in Portland anyway to fly in there?
Laramie only like 2 hours from DIA. And you can actually fly in.
Only globalists and devil worshippers fly into DIA
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imagine how stupid you would feel for buying a ticket and boarding a plane where Eugene is the fucking destination.
Access is important, but it's really all about the recruiting base.