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HS Recruiting under DeBoer

whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,732 Swaye's Wigwam
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Ok, so this post might be premature given that people can still portal between now and the portal, but might as well look at how DeBoer left the foundation of the program for Fisch

2022: 8 players (6 remain), two 4-stars, six 3-stars
2023: 20 players (15 remain), eight 4-stars, 12 3-stars
2024: 11 players, three 4-stars, eight 3-stars

Also worth noting the 2021 class under Lake was a massive failure, too. Of those 16 kids, 4 remain.

Looking at the current roster (and not including any of the 2024 early enrollees), only 35 players are high school recruits (as opposed to JUCO and transfers)
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  • huskyhooliganhuskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,427 Swaye's Wigwam
    This may explain a lot regarding instate kids.


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  • CallMeBigErnCallMeBigErn Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,598 Swaye's Wigwam
    Ehhhh


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  • WoolleyDoogWoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,586 Swaye's Wigwam
    I remember there was a bitterness which developed during the Sark years with in-state players. I think the thought was too that it's not like its expected UW recruits every in-state player but there's a way to be better about it and not just dismiss local guys. Sounds like DeBoer and company got even worse at that. It makes sense as I'm sure DeBoer and Sark didn't give a shit about long-term connections locally as both I'm sure wanted to bolt as soon as they got a good option.
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  • WoolleyDoogWoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,586 Swaye's Wigwam
    chuck said:

    WoolleyDoog said:

    I remember there was a bitterness which developed during the Sark years with in-state players. I think the thought was too that it's not like its expected UW recruits every in-state player but there's a way to be better about it and not just dismiss local guys. Sounds like DeBoer and company got even worse at that. It makes sense as I'm sure DeBoer and Sark didn't give a shit about long-term connections locally as both I'm sure wanted to bolt as soon as they got a good option.

    Just going by memory and my outsider perspective, it seemed like Sark offered all of the local guys and would take virtually any of them. Meanwhile he managed to alienate and piss off several while still hoping they'd come to UW.

    Deboer just didn't recruit many local guys at all.
    I felt like the supposed local Sark shade wasn't deserved for the most part and at the time there were some FSP types who were anti-UW and stoking it. DeBoer and co I think just didn't try and in slight defense the talent coming out of the state is abysmal compared to just even 10ish years ago.
    Neighbor2972 said:

    huskyhooligan said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    Ehhhh


    It wasn't about the specific player.

    Predecessor never made it up to see the back to back champs in state’s highest division
    Yeah you need to visit all the big programs to atleast have a relationship when they inevitably have a D1 player in 2-3 years.
    And yeah you don't need to offer local guys who aren't ideal takes but you should play the game a bit so you're not burning bridges when the right players come from schools.
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  • HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Neighbor2972 said:

    huskyhooligan said:

    CallMeBigErn said:

    Ehhhh


    It wasn't about the specific player.

    Predecessor never made it up to see the back to back champs in state’s highest division
    Yeah you need to visit all the big programs to atleast have a relationship when they inevitably have a D1 player in 2-3 years.
    Even more important in the modern day of farm teams and unlimited portal...

    How hard is it to have an honest meeting but maintain a positive relationship with a few guys that might be borderline, help them get setup at your farm team at Fresno State (or whatever) and then bring them in if they are good enough after 2-3 years as a portal transfer returning home?

    Schools like TAMU (Blinn) have been doing something like this well before the portal/nil days.
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  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,530 Swaye's Wigwam
    I felt like the supposed local Sark shade wasn't deserved for the most part and at the time there were some FSP types who were anti-UW and stoking it. DeBoer and co I think just didn't try and in slight defense the talent coming out of the state is abysmal compared to just even 10ish years ago.

    The vitriol for Sark was more a response to media and local "influencers" jacking him off at all times.
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  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,732 Swaye's Wigwam
    chuck said:

    WoolleyDoog said:

    I remember there was a bitterness which developed during the Sark years with in-state players. I think the thought was too that it's not like its expected UW recruits every in-state player but there's a way to be better about it and not just dismiss local guys. Sounds like DeBoer and company got even worse at that. It makes sense as I'm sure DeBoer and Sark didn't give a shit about long-term connections locally as both I'm sure wanted to bolt as soon as they got a good option.

    Just going by memory and my outsider perspective, it seemed like Sark offered all of the local guys and would take virtually any of them. Meanwhile he managed to alienate and piss off several while still hoping they'd come to UW.

    Deboer just didn't recruit many local guys at all.
    Of the 39 high school players recruited over 3 years, only 6 were from WA
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  • WoolleyDoogWoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,586 Swaye's Wigwam
    whatshouldicareabout said:

    chuck said:

    WoolleyDoog said:

    I remember there was a bitterness which developed during the Sark years with in-state players. I think the thought was too that it's not like its expected UW recruits every in-state player but there's a way to be better about it and not just dismiss local guys. Sounds like DeBoer and company got even worse at that. It makes sense as I'm sure DeBoer and Sark didn't give a shit about long-term connections locally as both I'm sure wanted to bolt as soon as they got a good option.

    Just going by memory and my outsider perspective, it seemed like Sark offered all of the local guys and would take virtually any of them. Meanwhile he managed to alienate and piss off several while still hoping they'd come to UW.

    Deboer just didn't recruit many local guys at all.
    Of the 39 high school players recruited over 3 years, only 6 were from WA
    No one has typed out here more that they're concerned about the fall off in talent coming from this state. Still think they were doing a terrible job of recruiting it.
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  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,732 Swaye's Wigwam
    Also, with the news today, you can -2 from the 2024 recruiting class.

    So that's 37 HS recruits over 3 classes
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  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,040 Swaye's Wigwam
    whatshouldicareabout said:

    Also, with the news today, you can -2 from the 2024 recruiting class.

    So that's 37 HS recruits over 3 classes

    According to my calculations that equals us being fucked.
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  • EsophagealFecesEsophagealFeces Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,089 Swaye's Wigwam
    theknowledge said:

    Fish is going to take 25-30 HS recruits next year alone. Probably another 10-15 in the portal. I’ll have to dig out and dust off my old, crusty sweats. Haven’t really had them out since 2020. Me thinks it may be a fun TBS year on Montlake.

    You better have your mom reinforce the crotch on those crusty old sweats while you’re at it
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