HS Recruiting under DeBoer

whatshouldicareabout

Ok, so this post might be premature given that people can still portal between now and the portal, but might as well look at how DeBoer left the foundation of the program for Fisch

2022: 8 players (6 remain), two 4-stars, six 3-stars
2023: 20 players (15 remain), eight 4-stars, 12 3-stars
2024: 11 players, three 4-stars, eight 3-stars

Also worth noting the 2021 class under Lake was a massive failure, too. Of those 16 kids, 4 remain.

Looking at the current roster (and not including any of the 2024 early enrollees), only 35 players are high school recruits (as opposed to JUCO and transfers)

huskyhooligan

This may explain a lot regarding instate kids.

https://twitter.com/425Kev/status/1748997173667049752

CallMeBigErn

Ehhhh

huskyhooligan

CallMeBigErn said:

Ehhhh

It wasn't about the specific player.

Predecessor never made it up to see the back to back champs in state’s highest division

Neighbor2972

Deboer benefited from Petersen's recruiting and now Fisch gets to deal with Lake's bullshit lol.

WoolleyDoog

I remember there was a bitterness which developed during the Sark years with in-state players. I think the thought was too that it's not like its expected UW recruits every in-state player but there's a way to be better about it and not just dismiss local guys. Sounds like DeBoer and company got even worse at that. It makes sense as I'm sure DeBoer and Sark didn't give a shit about long-term connections locally as both I'm sure wanted to bolt as soon as they got a good option.

ntxduck

huskyhooligan said:

This may explain a lot regarding instate kids.

https://twitter.com/425Kev/status/1748997173667049752

Kdb had a lot of recruiting deficiencies. Not giving this kid the time of day wasnt one of them

chuck

WoolleyDoog said:

I remember there was a bitterness which developed during the Sark years with in-state players. I think the thought was too that it's not like its expected UW recruits every in-state player but there's a way to be better about it and not just dismiss local guys. Sounds like DeBoer and company got even worse at that. It makes sense as I'm sure DeBoer and Sark didn't give a shit about long-term connections locally as both I'm sure wanted to bolt as soon as they got a good option.

Just going by memory and my outsider perspective, it seemed like Sark offered all of the local guys and would take virtually any of them. Meanwhile he managed to alienate and piss off several while still hoping they'd come to UW.

Deboer just didn't recruit many local guys at all.

Neighbor2972

huskyhooligan said:

CallMeBigErn said:

Ehhhh

It wasn't about the specific player.

Predecessor never made it up to see the back to back champs in state’s highest division

Yeah you need to visit all the big programs to atleast have a relationship when they inevitably have a D1 player in 2-3 years.

WoolleyDoog

chuck said:

WoolleyDoog said:

I remember there was a bitterness which developed during the Sark years with in-state players. I think the thought was too that it's not like its expected UW recruits every in-state player but there's a way to be better about it and not just dismiss local guys. Sounds like DeBoer and company got even worse at that. It makes sense as I'm sure DeBoer and Sark didn't give a shit about long-term connections locally as both I'm sure wanted to bolt as soon as they got a good option.

Just going by memory and my outsider perspective, it seemed like Sark offered all of the local guys and would take virtually any of them. Meanwhile he managed to alienate and piss off several while still hoping they'd come to UW.

Deboer just didn't recruit many local guys at all.

I felt like the supposed local Sark shade wasn't deserved for the most part and at the time there were some FSP types who were anti-UW and stoking it. DeBoer and co I think just didn't try and in slight defense the talent coming out of the state is abysmal compared to just even 10ish years ago.

Neighbor2972 said:

huskyhooligan said:

CallMeBigErn said:

Ehhhh

It wasn't about the specific player.

Predecessor never made it up to see the back to back champs in state’s highest division

Yeah you need to visit all the big programs to atleast have a relationship when they inevitably have a D1 player in 2-3 years.

And yeah you don't need to offer local guys who aren't ideal takes but you should play the game a bit so you're not burning bridges when the right players come from schools.

Houhusky

Neighbor2972 said:

huskyhooligan said:

CallMeBigErn said:

Ehhhh

It wasn't about the specific player.

Predecessor never made it up to see the back to back champs in state’s highest division

Yeah you need to visit all the big programs to atleast have a relationship when they inevitably have a D1 player in 2-3 years.

Even more important in the modern day of farm teams and unlimited portal...

How hard is it to have an honest meeting but maintain a positive relationship with a few guys that might be borderline, help them get setup at your farm team at Fresno State (or whatever) and then bring them in if they are good enough after 2-3 years as a portal transfer returning home?

Schools like TAMU (Blinn) have been doing something like this well before the portal/nil days.

Bob_C

I felt like the supposed local Sark shade wasn't deserved for the most part and at the time there were some FSP types who were anti-UW and stoking it. DeBoer and co I think just didn't try and in slight defense the talent coming out of the state is abysmal compared to just even 10ish years ago.

The vitriol for Sark was more a response to media and local "influencers" jacking him off at all times.

whatshouldicareabout

chuck said:

WoolleyDoog said:

I remember there was a bitterness which developed during the Sark years with in-state players. I think the thought was too that it's not like its expected UW recruits every in-state player but there's a way to be better about it and not just dismiss local guys. Sounds like DeBoer and company got even worse at that. It makes sense as I'm sure DeBoer and Sark didn't give a shit about long-term connections locally as both I'm sure wanted to bolt as soon as they got a good option.

Just going by memory and my outsider perspective, it seemed like Sark offered all of the local guys and would take virtually any of them. Meanwhile he managed to alienate and piss off several while still hoping they'd come to UW.

Deboer just didn't recruit many local guys at all.

Of the 39 high school players recruited over 3 years, only 6 were from WA

WoolleyDoog

Bob_C said:

I felt like the supposed local Sark shade wasn't deserved for the most part and at the time there were some FSP types who were anti-UW and stoking it. DeBoer and co I think just didn't try and in slight defense the talent coming out of the state is abysmal compared to just even 10ish years ago.

The vitriol for Sark was more a response to media and local "influencers" jacking him off at all times.

I thought Joey Thomas had a lot of influence in Washington High School football at the time and that was part of it. I've also always heard Sark was a guy who was really good to the stars on the team and shitty to the rest so I wouldn't be surprised if he was showing up for any of the other recruits.

WoolleyDoog

whatshouldicareabout said:

chuck said:

WoolleyDoog said:

I remember there was a bitterness which developed during the Sark years with in-state players. I think the thought was too that it's not like its expected UW recruits every in-state player but there's a way to be better about it and not just dismiss local guys. Sounds like DeBoer and company got even worse at that. It makes sense as I'm sure DeBoer and Sark didn't give a shit about long-term connections locally as both I'm sure wanted to bolt as soon as they got a good option.

Just going by memory and my outsider perspective, it seemed like Sark offered all of the local guys and would take virtually any of them. Meanwhile he managed to alienate and piss off several while still hoping they'd come to UW.

Deboer just didn't recruit many local guys at all.

Of the 39 high school players recruited over 3 years, only 6 were from WA

No one has typed out here more that they're concerned about the fall off in talent coming from this state. Still think they were doing a terrible job of recruiting it.

whatshouldicareabout

Also, with the news today, you can -2 from the 2024 recruiting class.

So that's 37 HS recruits over 3 classes

dirtysouwfdawg

whatshouldicareabout said:

Also, with the news today, you can -2 from the 2024 recruiting class.

So that's 37 HS recruits over 3 classes

According to my calculations that equals us being fucked.

theknowledge

Fish is going to take 25-30 HS recruits next year alone. Probably another 10-15 in the portal. I’ll have to dig out and dust off my old, crusty sweats. Haven’t really had them out since 2020. Me thinks it may be a fun TBS year on Montlake.

EsophagealFeces

theknowledge said:

Fish is going to take 25-30 HS recruits next year alone. Probably another 10-15 in the portal. I’ll have to dig out and dust off my old, crusty sweats. Haven’t really had them out since 2020. Me thinks it may be a fun TBS year on Montlake.

You better have your mom reinforce the crotch on those crusty old sweats while you’re at it

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

theknowledge said:

Fish is going to take 25-30 HS recruits next year alone. Probably another 10-15 in the portal. I’ll have to dig out and dust off my old, crusty sweats. Haven’t really had them out since 2020. Me thinks it may be a fun TBS year on Montlake.

I have a feeling we’re? not getting much out of Arizona and will only pick up the San Jose St guysm during this portal period.

We’ll? turn around and grab a few more in the spring portal and then go heavy in recruiting.

It sucks for the 2024 season but should be a better long term plan.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

theknowledge said:

Fish is going to take 25-30 HS recruits next year alone. Probably another 10-15 in the portal. I’ll have to dig out and dust off my old, crusty sweats. Haven’t really had them out since 2020. Me thinks it may be a fun TBS year on Montlake.

I have a feeling we’re? not getting much out of Arizona and will only pick up the San Jose St guysm during this portal period.

We’ll? turn around and grab a few more in the spring portal and then go heavy in recruiting.

It sucks for the 2024 season but should be a better long term plan.

Need to add that I think this was probably the plan from the start.