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Can WSU beat Auburn?
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90% of Auburn's roster is comprised of top 10 recruiting classes. Over half of WSU's is Wulff's. The lack of a semblance of even a mediocre offensive line results in more than just the first 6 inches of the plunger residing in crimson and gray rectum. Auburn by 20+.
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Auburn left a lot on the field that day, and had one of the worst defenses in the SEC that year, yet they controlled the line of scrimmage against Oregon. And LSU physically had their way with Oregon, easily winning the game and leaving no doubt which team was the better. Oregon has had a lot of success lately, but they've struggled against teams with truly elite athletes, going back to the Rose Bowl vs Ohio State and as recently as last year vs Stanford. Their recent recruiting has been addressing this. The linemen they've been targeting and getting lately have the kind of size and power you'd expect to see at elite programs. My guess is Helfrich will continue down this path and they will be a better team as a result.TheKobeStopper said:
I don't with agree that. They went toe to toe with Auburn. And that LSU game they lost because they had 4 turnovers and 12 penalties not because of athletic ability. They actually out gained LSU.Southerndawg said:
Oregon is not built to go toe to toe with most of the teams on that list. Kelly realized that after getting thrashed by LSU, even made the comment that they have a different kind of athlete down there. Interestingly, and in an odd way much like Don James, I believe he changed his recruiting after that SEC beat down. James had size and power without speed, Kelly had speed without power or size. James added speed, I think Kelly was in the process off adding power. Adaptation, one of the traits of great coaching.greenblood said:You may just want to pull for Oregon against Tennessee, and be thankful it isn't Alabama, Florida, LSU, South Carolina, Georgia, or Texas A&M. If that were the case, the Pac 12 would stand a good chance of losing both games.
By the way, what do you suppose the score was in the game below? Do the stats below really tell the story?
Washington Miami Fla
First downs 22 21
Rushed-yards 45-98 37-211
Passing yards 194 202
Sacked-yards lost 4-34 1-5
Return yards 10 94
Passes 17-36-6 15-24-1
Punts 3-34.3 2-44.5
Fumbles-lost 6-1 2-0
Penalties-yards 10-60 7-46
Time of possession 35:49 24:11 -
Is that the Whammy in Miami game? I'm assuming so. Our offense didn't really do much just had the big play to Thomas then a pick six plus a recovery on special teams. I remember Kaufman was shut down.Southerndawg said:
Auburn left a lot on the field that day, and had one of the worst defenses in the SEC that year, yet they controlled the line of scrimmage against Oregon. And LSU physically had their way with Oregon, easily winning the game and leaving no doubt which team was the better. Oregon has had a lot of success lately, but they've struggled against teams with truly elite athletes, going back to the Rose Bowl vs Ohio State and as recently as last year vs Stanford. Their recent recruiting has been addressing this. The linemen they've been targeting and getting lately have the kind of size and power you'd expect to see at elite programs. My guess is Helfrich will continue down this path and they will be a better team as a result.TheKobeStopper said:
I don't with agree that. They went toe to toe with Auburn. And that LSU game they lost because they had 4 turnovers and 12 penalties not because of athletic ability. They actually out gained LSU.Southerndawg said:
Oregon is not built to go toe to toe with most of the teams on that list. Kelly realized that after getting thrashed by LSU, even made the comment that they have a different kind of athlete down there. Interestingly, and in an odd way much like Don James, I believe he changed his recruiting after that SEC beat down. James had size and power without speed, Kelly had speed without power or size. James added speed, I think Kelly was in the process off adding power. Adaptation, one of the traits of great coaching.greenblood said:You may just want to pull for Oregon against Tennessee, and be thankful it isn't Alabama, Florida, LSU, South Carolina, Georgia, or Texas A&M. If that were the case, the Pac 12 would stand a good chance of losing both games.
By the way, what do you suppose the score was in the game below? Do the stats below really tell the story?
Washington Miami Fla
First downs 22 21
Rushed-yards 45-98 37-211
Passing yards 194 202
Sacked-yards lost 4-34 1-5
Return yards 10 94
Passes 17-36-6 15-24-1
Punts 3-34.3 2-44.5
Fumbles-lost 6-1 2-0
Penalties-yards 10-60 7-46
Time of possession 35:49 24:11 -
I don't think this helps the point that the SEC just outclasses Oregon.DerekJohnson said:
UW outgained LSU in 2009... Still had no chance to winTheKobeStopper said:
I don't with agree that. They went toe to toe with Auburn. And that LSU game they lost because they had 4 turnovers and 12 penalties not because of athletic ability. They actually out gained LSU.Southerndawg said:
Oregon is not built to go toe to toe with most of the teams on that list. Kelly realized that after getting thrashed by LSU, even made the comment that they have a different kind of athlete down there. Interestingly, and in an odd way much like Don James, I believe he changed his recruiting after that SEC beat down. James had size and power without speed, Kelly had speed without power or size. James added speed, I think Kelly was in the process off adding power. Adaptation, one of the traits of great coaching.greenblood said:You may just want to pull for Oregon against Tennessee, and be thankful it isn't Alabama, Florida, LSU, South Carolina, Georgia, or Texas A&M. If that were the case, the Pac 12 would stand a good chance of losing both games.
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Six interceptions means it was the 65-7 game
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No, it was November 24, 2001, the worst football game I have ever attended, but you would be hard pressed to tell how bad it was from the stats. Final score, UW 7, Miami 65.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Is that the Whammy in Miami game? I'm assuming so. Our offense didn't really do much just had the big play to Thomas then a pick six plus a recovery on special teams. I remember Kaufman was shut down.Southerndawg said:
Auburn left a lot on the field that day, and had one of the worst defenses in the SEC that year, yet they controlled the line of scrimmage against Oregon. And LSU physically had their way with Oregon, easily winning the game and leaving no doubt which team was the better. Oregon has had a lot of success lately, but they've struggled against teams with truly elite athletes, going back to the Rose Bowl vs Ohio State and as recently as last year vs Stanford. Their recent recruiting has been addressing this. The linemen they've been targeting and getting lately have the kind of size and power you'd expect to see at elite programs. My guess is Helfrich will continue down this path and they will be a better team as a result.TheKobeStopper said:
I don't with agree that. They went toe to toe with Auburn. And that LSU game they lost because they had 4 turnovers and 12 penalties not because of athletic ability. They actually out gained LSU.Southerndawg said:
Oregon is not built to go toe to toe with most of the teams on that list. Kelly realized that after getting thrashed by LSU, even made the comment that they have a different kind of athlete down there. Interestingly, and in an odd way much like Don James, I believe he changed his recruiting after that SEC beat down. James had size and power without speed, Kelly had speed without power or size. James added speed, I think Kelly was in the process off adding power. Adaptation, one of the traits of great coaching.greenblood said:You may just want to pull for Oregon against Tennessee, and be thankful it isn't Alabama, Florida, LSU, South Carolina, Georgia, or Texas A&M. If that were the case, the Pac 12 would stand a good chance of losing both games.
By the way, what do you suppose the score was in the game below? Do the stats below really tell the story?
Washington Miami Fla
First downs 22 21
Rushed-yards 45-98 37-211
Passing yards 194 202
Sacked-yards lost 4-34 1-5
Return yards 10 94
Passes 17-36-6 15-24-1
Punts 3-34.3 2-44.5
Fumbles-lost 6-1 2-0
Penalties-yards 10-60 7-46
Time of possession 35:49 24:11 -
I'm just not convinced it was a response to the Auburn game. Oregon is bigger, faster, stronger now because they have gotten the better recruits that come with winning. If Oregon had beaten Auburn and their o line played really well would they really not be bigger, faster, stronger now? It was the inevitable conclusion of having a great coach.greenblood said:
I will give you LSU, but the Auburn game not so much.TheKobeStopper said:
I don't with agree that. They went toe to toe with Auburn. And that LSU game they lost because they had 4 turnovers and 12 penalties not because of athletic ability. They actually out gained LSU.Southerndawg said:
Oregon is not built to go toe to toe with most of the teams on that list. Kelly realized that after getting thrashed by LSU, even made the comment that they have a different kind of athlete down there. Interestingly, and in an odd way much like Don James, I believe he changed his recruiting after that SEC beat down. James had size and power without speed, Kelly had speed without power or size. James added speed, I think Kelly was in the process off adding power. Adaptation, one of the traits of great coaching.greenblood said:You may just want to pull for Oregon against Tennessee, and be thankful it isn't Alabama, Florida, LSU, South Carolina, Georgia, or Texas A&M. If that were the case, the Pac 12 would stand a good chance of losing both games.
They lost by 3, but Auburn's defensive line dominated that game. Anybody watching that game saw Auburn as the much better team. If they had played 10 times, Auburn would have won 9 and plunger raped Oregon in 5-6 of those nine wins. I knew we were in trouble when the teams first came on to the field. Comparing the two teams was like David vs. Goliath. My first words were, "Oh shit".
Oregon is much bigger now than they were then, because Chip learned. Hopefully Helfrich doesn't fuck up a good thing. -
Remember when giving up 65 points was an outrage that began the end for Rick? Now its a fucking résumé enhancer for SarkSoutherndawg said:
No, it was November 24, 2001, the worst football game I have ever attended, but you would be hard pressed to tell how bad it was from the stats. Final score, UW 7, Miami 65.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Is that the Whammy in Miami game? I'm assuming so. Our offense didn't really do much just had the big play to Thomas then a pick six plus a recovery on special teams. I remember Kaufman was shut down.Southerndawg said:
Auburn left a lot on the field that day, and had one of the worst defenses in the SEC that year, yet they controlled the line of scrimmage against Oregon. And LSU physically had their way with Oregon, easily winning the game and leaving no doubt which team was the better. Oregon has had a lot of success lately, but they've struggled against teams with truly elite athletes, going back to the Rose Bowl vs Ohio State and as recently as last year vs Stanford. Their recent recruiting has been addressing this. The linemen they've been targeting and getting lately have the kind of size and power you'd expect to see at elite programs. My guess is Helfrich will continue down this path and they will be a better team as a result.TheKobeStopper said:
I don't with agree that. They went toe to toe with Auburn. And that LSU game they lost because they had 4 turnovers and 12 penalties not because of athletic ability. They actually out gained LSU.Southerndawg said:
Oregon is not built to go toe to toe with most of the teams on that list. Kelly realized that after getting thrashed by LSU, even made the comment that they have a different kind of athlete down there. Interestingly, and in an odd way much like Don James, I believe he changed his recruiting after that SEC beat down. James had size and power without speed, Kelly had speed without power or size. James added speed, I think Kelly was in the process off adding power. Adaptation, one of the traits of great coaching.greenblood said:You may just want to pull for Oregon against Tennessee, and be thankful it isn't Alabama, Florida, LSU, South Carolina, Georgia, or Texas A&M. If that were the case, the Pac 12 would stand a good chance of losing both games.
By the way, what do you suppose the score was in the game below? Do the stats below really tell the story?
Washington Miami Fla
First downs 22 21
Rushed-yards 45-98 37-211
Passing yards 194 202
Sacked-yards lost 4-34 1-5
Return yards 10 94
Passes 17-36-6 15-24-1
Punts 3-34.3 2-44.5
Fumbles-lost 6-1 2-0
Penalties-yards 10-60 7-46
Time of possession 35:49 24:11 -
I miss that fan base. A year after winning a Rose Bowl, UW fans had their pitchforks out for Rick that night.RaceBannon said:
Remember when giving up 65 points was an outrage that began the end for Rick? Now its a fucking résumé enhancer for SarkSoutherndawg said:
No, it was November 24, 2001, the worst football game I have ever attended, but you would be hard pressed to tell how bad it was from the stats. Final score, UW 7, Miami 65.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Is that the Whammy in Miami game? I'm assuming so. Our offense didn't really do much just had the big play to Thomas then a pick six plus a recovery on special teams. I remember Kaufman was shut down.Southerndawg said:
Auburn left a lot on the field that day, and had one of the worst defenses in the SEC that year, yet they controlled the line of scrimmage against Oregon. And LSU physically had their way with Oregon, easily winning the game and leaving no doubt which team was the better. Oregon has had a lot of success lately, but they've struggled against teams with truly elite athletes, going back to the Rose Bowl vs Ohio State and as recently as last year vs Stanford. Their recent recruiting has been addressing this. The linemen they've been targeting and getting lately have the kind of size and power you'd expect to see at elite programs. My guess is Helfrich will continue down this path and they will be a better team as a result.TheKobeStopper said:
I don't with agree that. They went toe to toe with Auburn. And that LSU game they lost because they had 4 turnovers and 12 penalties not because of athletic ability. They actually out gained LSU.Southerndawg said:
Oregon is not built to go toe to toe with most of the teams on that list. Kelly realized that after getting thrashed by LSU, even made the comment that they have a different kind of athlete down there. Interestingly, and in an odd way much like Don James, I believe he changed his recruiting after that SEC beat down. James had size and power without speed, Kelly had speed without power or size. James added speed, I think Kelly was in the process off adding power. Adaptation, one of the traits of great coaching.greenblood said:You may just want to pull for Oregon against Tennessee, and be thankful it isn't Alabama, Florida, LSU, South Carolina, Georgia, or Texas A&M. If that were the case, the Pac 12 would stand a good chance of losing both games.
By the way, what do you suppose the score was in the game below? Do the stats below really tell the story?
Washington Miami Fla
First downs 22 21
Rushed-yards 45-98 37-211
Passing yards 194 202
Sacked-yards lost 4-34 1-5
Return yards 10 94
Passes 17-36-6 15-24-1
Punts 3-34.3 2-44.5
Fumbles-lost 6-1 2-0
Penalties-yards 10-60 7-46
Time of possession 35:49 24:11
Now like you said it's no big deal. Hell Sark had that happened to him twice in one year and his fucktarded AD called that incremental progress. -
Ya, and for some of us it still is. Some of us still get very concerned over giving up half that and expect to see defenses that give up no more than a quarter of that on average but are told we have no idea how much the college football landscape has changed.RaceBannon said:
Remember when giving up 65 points was an outrage that began the end for Rick? Now its a fucking résumé enhancer for SarkSoutherndawg said:
No, it was November 24, 2001, the worst football game I have ever attended, but you would be hard pressed to tell how bad it was from the stats. Final score, UW 7, Miami 65.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Is that the Whammy in Miami game? I'm assuming so. Our offense didn't really do much just had the big play to Thomas then a pick six plus a recovery on special teams. I remember Kaufman was shut down.Southerndawg said:
Auburn left a lot on the field that day, and had one of the worst defenses in the SEC that year, yet they controlled the line of scrimmage against Oregon. And LSU physically had their way with Oregon, easily winning the game and leaving no doubt which team was the better. Oregon has had a lot of success lately, but they've struggled against teams with truly elite athletes, going back to the Rose Bowl vs Ohio State and as recently as last year vs Stanford. Their recent recruiting has been addressing this. The linemen they've been targeting and getting lately have the kind of size and power you'd expect to see at elite programs. My guess is Helfrich will continue down this path and they will be a better team as a result.TheKobeStopper said:
I don't with agree that. They went toe to toe with Auburn. And that LSU game they lost because they had 4 turnovers and 12 penalties not because of athletic ability. They actually out gained LSU.Southerndawg said:
Oregon is not built to go toe to toe with most of the teams on that list. Kelly realized that after getting thrashed by LSU, even made the comment that they have a different kind of athlete down there. Interestingly, and in an odd way much like Don James, I believe he changed his recruiting after that SEC beat down. James had size and power without speed, Kelly had speed without power or size. James added speed, I think Kelly was in the process off adding power. Adaptation, one of the traits of great coaching.greenblood said:You may just want to pull for Oregon against Tennessee, and be thankful it isn't Alabama, Florida, LSU, South Carolina, Georgia, or Texas A&M. If that were the case, the Pac 12 would stand a good chance of losing both games.
By the way, what do you suppose the score was in the game below? Do the stats below really tell the story?
Washington Miami Fla
First downs 22 21
Rushed-yards 45-98 37-211
Passing yards 194 202
Sacked-yards lost 4-34 1-5
Return yards 10 94
Passes 17-36-6 15-24-1
Punts 3-34.3 2-44.5
Fumbles-lost 6-1 2-0
Penalties-yards 10-60 7-46
Time of possession 35:49 24:11
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