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Anyone that heard DeBoer's interviews with softy over the past couple months knew there was a high risk of this happening. The excuse that signing a document takes away from game planning was complete bullshit. Your agent does the negotiating, you sign, takes a few minutes.
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This sums up my beef with DeBoer.
There’s always going to be other great opportunities out there for great coaches.
But you don’t have 1 foot out the door in year 2 in the middle of a Natty run.
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This sounds familiar🤔pawz said: -
Closers know MOUs ain't shit. Dannen knew this.
The whole thing reminds me of another historical MOU.
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Dannen is a lot of things, but he isn't an idiot.
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Let’s hope.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Dannen is a lot of things, but he isn't an idiot.
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So far… the weasel thing was pretty stupid though that was only under his watch and not his doing but just like in my real life, one of my subordinates fucks up, I fucked up.jecornel said:Let’s hope.
PostGameOrangeSlices said:Dannen is a lot of things, but he isn't an idiot.
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….” I appreciate the efforts….”
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How does the athletic department not keep like 1 person around who knows the fan base that can remind them not to do shit like this? Is Greg Lewis around still? I know that’s not his gig, but someone like that would certainly know little cultural stuff like that.dirtysouwfdawg said:
So far… the weasel thing was pretty stupid though that was only under his watch and not his doing but just like in my real life, one of my subordinates fucks up, I fucked up.jecornel said:Let’s hope.
PostGameOrangeSlices said:Dannen is a lot of things, but he isn't an idiot.
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It really is mind numbingYellowSnow said:This sums up my beef with DeBoer.
There’s always going to be other great opportunities out there for great coaches.
But you don’t have 1 foot out the door in year 2 in the middle of a Natty run.
Fuck that guy forever.
The reason you get into the sports business at a high level is to compete and win championships … if you do that the money follows
To torpedo your chances when you get that chance (and there’s no guarantee you’ll ever get that chance again) speaks volumes about your character and priorities -
That was the ultimate selfish act. I don’t think people appreciate how totally unprecedented it was.Tequilla said:
It really is mind numbingYellowSnow said:This sums up my beef with DeBoer.
There’s always going to be other great opportunities out there for great coaches.
But you don’t have 1 foot out the door in year 2 in the middle of a Natty run.
Fuck that guy forever.
The reason you get into the sports business at a high level is to compete and win championships … if you do that the money follows
To torpedo your chances when you get that chance (and there’s no guarantee you’ll ever get that chance again) speaks volumes about your character and priorities
No other coach in Cfb has done that, negotiating out of their team the night before a natty game.
Dude is Epstein island on the character scale for that one. -
Unprecedented is probably the best way to describe it
Comparing DeBoer leaving UW with Fisch leaving Arizona is completely apples and oranges -
100% - d-bag and fat fuck were colluding since Thanksgiving to get him into Bama and even Troy said that when he wouldn't sign the extension he knew something was up. Quite different from a postseason higher. I still can't believe that going into a national championship. What a fat piece of Dutchman shitTequilla said:Unprecedented is probably the best way to describe it
Comparing DeBoer leaving UW with Fisch leaving Arizona is completely apples and oranges -
UW offered Debore a massive contract that would have had paid as a top 5 coach, the highest paid OC, one of the highest paid staffs in all of college football before bowl season and he slow rolled it to dick around with Alabama in the hotel room the night before the big gameTequilla said:Unprecedented is probably the best way to describe it
Comparing DeBoer leaving UW with Fisch leaving Arizona is completely apples and oranges
Arizona on the other hand had the best season in 30 years and still struggled to scrape together 5 million for their coach and when they finally did they were too busy fucking around in Spokane and too poor to actually give it to him until the end of the month. -
Just posted this on another thread:
My thoughts are, he was somewhat surprised by how many they won, saw that after this year the talent on hand was going to be fucking terrible, his recruiting sucked, but he was winning. He was at the top of the mountain as far as negotiating power, he knew that if he stayed, his stock would plummet. This was literally his Midas moment and he took it! If he didn’t, the next offer would be to a lateral move, not upward. So he jumped at the top! Can’t tell me most of you wouldn’t do the same.
He’s still a fucking scumbag and I hope he get’s herpes of the asshole from the SEC shoving their unwashed, non lubed cocks up his ass. FTG -
It's beyond the pale of @Mad_Son settlement, even in this fucked up age of college football.Tequilla said:
It really is mind numbingYellowSnow said:This sums up my beef with DeBoer.
There’s always going to be other great opportunities out there for great coaches.
But you don’t have 1 foot out the door in year 2 in the middle of a Natty run.
Fuck that guy forever.
The reason you get into the sports business at a high level is to compete and win championships … if you do that the money follows
To torpedo your chances when you get that chance (and there’s no guarantee you’ll ever get that chance again) speaks volumes about your character and priorities
DeBoer had ZERO connection to Bamma or the SEC.
He was already in a Year 2 CFP/Natty run at a Top 10 to 20 type program about to triple the original salary. And that's not good enough to still around for 4 or 5 years? What the fuck.
I guess the lack of recruiting was a tell that people like me who hate TBSing ignored at our peril. -
He should've figured it out in August when DeBoer switched to Jimmy Sextonpawz said:
And yes, I know he was at Tulane acting as their AD then, but he should've known it then -
Was the weasel in New Orleans on some kind of parade float and if so, did UW know about it? If it’s something Dannen or his staff knew about and didn’t notice or worse, blessed off on, then they need to get their shit together.dirtysouwfdawg said:
So far… the weasel thing was pretty stupid though that was only under his watch and not his doing but just like in my real life, one of my subordinates fucks up, I fucked up.jecornel said:Let’s hope.
PostGameOrangeSlices said:Dannen is a lot of things, but he isn't an idiot.
I suspect the Sugar Bowl committee/staff/Madri Gras people did a Google search for UW, found it and had it printed out and stuck it on the float. If that’s the case, that shit is on Cohen for not getting an intern to figure out how to suppress/remove the image from the internet.
As for the Huskie thing, who amongst us hasn’t had a typo before? -
Venerable Huskieieieieieiieieieieeieieieee81%ieieieie stadiumCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Was the weasel in New Orleans on some kind of parade float and if so, did UW know about it? If it’s something Dannen or his staff knew about and didn’t notice or worse, blessed off on, then they need to get their shit together.dirtysouwfdawg said:
So far… the weasel thing was pretty stupid though that was only under his watch and not his doing but just like in my real life, one of my subordinates fucks up, I fucked up.jecornel said:Let’s hope.
PostGameOrangeSlices said:Dannen is a lot of things, but he isn't an idiot.
I suspect the Sugar Bowl committee/staff/Madri Gras people did a Google search for UW, found it and had it printed out and stuck it on the float. If that’s the case, that shit is on Cohen for not getting an intern to figure out how to suppress/remove the image from the internet.
As for the Huskie thing, who amongst us hasn’t had a typo before? -
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Who were the names in consideration? All Jimmy Sexton guys, every fucking one of them. I've dealt with enough agents to know that if Deboer would have signed that contract at Thanksgiving, he would currently be shopping for a new agent. Football coaches coach football. Agents make money, for their clients, and for themselves.YellowSnow said:
It's beyond the pale of @Mad_Son settlement, even in this fucked up age of college football.Tequilla said:
It really is mind numbingYellowSnow said:This sums up my beef with DeBoer.
There’s always going to be other great opportunities out there for great coaches.
But you don’t have 1 foot out the door in year 2 in the middle of a Natty run.
Fuck that guy forever.
The reason you get into the sports business at a high level is to compete and win championships … if you do that the money follows
To torpedo your chances when you get that chance (and there’s no guarantee you’ll ever get that chance again) speaks volumes about your character and priorities
DeBoer had ZERO connection to Bamma or the SEC.
He was already in a Year 2 CFP/Natty run at a Top 10 to 20 type program about to triple the original salary. And that's not good enough to still around for 4 or 5 years? What the fuck.
I guess the lack of recruiting was a tell that people like me who hate TBSing ignored at our peril.
Not only did Sexton get Deboer paid, he gets the rest of his stable paid to boot. The average sports agent takes between 4-10%, and I'd bet Jimmy is a LOT closer to 10 than 4. Kalen didn't have an "in" at Bama, but Jimmy did...That's why agents get paid.
IDK about the TBS stuff, but it was (after the fact), and continues to be apparent that it affected Deboer rolling to the end of what was a monumental season. By appearances, he didn't handle it well, at all.
You're not in Sioux Falls any more, Toto...
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I made mention of being fucked for depth a few times but backed it off because it felt petty as we made the natty run.YellowSnow said:
It's beyond the pale of @Mad_Son settlement, even in this fucked up age of college football.Tequilla said:
It really is mind numbingYellowSnow said:This sums up my beef with DeBoer.
There’s always going to be other great opportunities out there for great coaches.
But you don’t have 1 foot out the door in year 2 in the middle of a Natty run.
Fuck that guy forever.
The reason you get into the sports business at a high level is to compete and win championships … if you do that the money follows
To torpedo your chances when you get that chance (and there’s no guarantee you’ll ever get that chance again) speaks volumes about your character and priorities
DeBoer had ZERO connection to Bamma or the SEC.
He was already in a Year 2 CFP/Natty run at a Top 10 to 20 type program about to triple the original salary. And that's not good enough to still around for 4 or 5 years? What the fuck.
I guess the lack of recruiting was a tell that people like me who hate TBSing ignored at our peril.
Wasn’t ignored just didn’t realize what the fuck was truly transpiring right in front of us.
Helluva salesman. Hope he gets anal chlamydia. -
The AD should have a pdf with their standard/preferred marketing collateral (images, logos, color shades, font, etc etc) that they’d send out ahead of time to the boel committee.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Was the weasel in New Orleans on some kind of parade float and if so, did UW know about it? If it’s something Dannen or his staff knew about and didn’t notice or worse, blessed off on, then they need to get their shit together.dirtysouwfdawg said:
So far… the weasel thing was pretty stupid though that was only under his watch and not his doing but just like in my real life, one of my subordinates fucks up, I fucked up.jecornel said:Let’s hope.
PostGameOrangeSlices said:Dannen is a lot of things, but he isn't an idiot.
I suspect the Sugar Bowl committee/staff/Madri Gras people did a Google search for UW, found it and had it printed out and stuck it on the float. If that’s the case, that shit is on Cohen for not getting an intern to figure out how to suppress/remove the image from the internet.
As for the Huskie thing, who amongst us hasn’t had a typo before?
Let’s just blame ramming on this one -
Pretty close to my read as well. Guy is a winner, but he wasn't going to the Natty next year with his cobbled together crew sans Penix and Rome and a small handful of others. We all for the most part thought regression year to 9 wins or whatever and a year or two retool...vadawg said:Just posted this on another thread:
My thoughts are, he was somewhat surprised by how many they won, saw that after this year the talent on hand was going to be fucking terrible, his recruiting sucked, but he was winning. He was at the top of the mountain as far as negotiating power, he knew that if he stayed, his stock would plummet. This was literally his Midas moment and he took it! If he didn’t, the next offer would be to a lateral move, not upward. So he jumped at the top! Can’t tell me most of you wouldn’t do the same.
He’s still a fucking scumbag and I hope he get’s herpes of the asshole from the SEC shoving their unwashed, non lubed cocks up his ass. FTG
And you are correct a couple 8-10 win years diddling around in the B1G and with terrible recruiting rankings every year, and his NC game magic is well in the rearview. The best moment Boner was ever gonna have for a top 3 CFB HC gig was right this second. And he took it. Fine. Don't hate the player blah blah blah....
It is what it is...I also hope he gets asshole herpes from getting plowed by a train of rabid zombie monkeys. -
I wonder if we’ll ever get to a point when universities don’t want to deal with this malarkey anymore.Fishpo31 said:
Who were the names in consideration? All Jimmy Sexton guys, every fucking one of them. I've dealt with enough agents to know that if Deboer would have signed that contract at Thanksgiving, he would currently be shopping for a new agent. Football coaches coach football. Agents make money, for their clients, and for themselves.YellowSnow said:
It's beyond the pale of @Mad_Son settlement, even in this fucked up age of college football.Tequilla said:
It really is mind numbingYellowSnow said:This sums up my beef with DeBoer.
There’s always going to be other great opportunities out there for great coaches.
But you don’t have 1 foot out the door in year 2 in the middle of a Natty run.
Fuck that guy forever.
The reason you get into the sports business at a high level is to compete and win championships … if you do that the money follows
To torpedo your chances when you get that chance (and there’s no guarantee you’ll ever get that chance again) speaks volumes about your character and priorities
DeBoer had ZERO connection to Bamma or the SEC.
He was already in a Year 2 CFP/Natty run at a Top 10 to 20 type program about to triple the original salary. And that's not good enough to still around for 4 or 5 years? What the fuck.
I guess the lack of recruiting was a tell that people like me who hate TBSing ignored at our peril.
Not only did Sexton get Deboer paid, he gets the rest of his stable paid to boot. The average sports agent takes between 4-10%, and I'd bet Jimmy is a LOT closer to 10 than 4. Kalen didn't have an "in" at Bama, but Jimmy did...That's why agents get paid.
IDK about the TBS stuff, but it was (after the fact), and continues to be apparent that it affected Deboer rolling to the end of what was a monumental season. By appearances, he didn't handle it well, at all.
You're not in Sioux Falls any more, Toto... -
So when do they start colluding and then getting sued by Sexton?YellowSnow said:
I wonder if we’ll ever get to a point when universities don’t want to deal with this malarkey anymore.Fishpo31 said:
Who were the names in consideration? All Jimmy Sexton guys, every fucking one of them. I've dealt with enough agents to know that if Deboer would have signed that contract at Thanksgiving, he would currently be shopping for a new agent. Football coaches coach football. Agents make money, for their clients, and for themselves.YellowSnow said:
It's beyond the pale of @Mad_Son settlement, even in this fucked up age of college football.Tequilla said:
It really is mind numbingYellowSnow said:This sums up my beef with DeBoer.
There’s always going to be other great opportunities out there for great coaches.
But you don’t have 1 foot out the door in year 2 in the middle of a Natty run.
Fuck that guy forever.
The reason you get into the sports business at a high level is to compete and win championships … if you do that the money follows
To torpedo your chances when you get that chance (and there’s no guarantee you’ll ever get that chance again) speaks volumes about your character and priorities
DeBoer had ZERO connection to Bamma or the SEC.
He was already in a Year 2 CFP/Natty run at a Top 10 to 20 type program about to triple the original salary. And that's not good enough to still around for 4 or 5 years? What the fuck.
I guess the lack of recruiting was a tell that people like me who hate TBSing ignored at our peril.
Not only did Sexton get Deboer paid, he gets the rest of his stable paid to boot. The average sports agent takes between 4-10%, and I'd bet Jimmy is a LOT closer to 10 than 4. Kalen didn't have an "in" at Bama, but Jimmy did...That's why agents get paid.
IDK about the TBS stuff, but it was (after the fact), and continues to be apparent that it affected Deboer rolling to the end of what was a monumental season. By appearances, he didn't handle it well, at all.
You're not in Sioux Falls any more, Toto... -
Probably not at least until the vice of stadium debt is in the rear view mirror.YellowSnow said:
I wonder if we’ll ever get to a point when universities don’t want to deal with this malarkey anymore.Fishpo31 said:
Who were the names in consideration? All Jimmy Sexton guys, every fucking one of them. I've dealt with enough agents to know that if Deboer would have signed that contract at Thanksgiving, he would currently be shopping for a new agent. Football coaches coach football. Agents make money, for their clients, and for themselves.YellowSnow said:
It's beyond the pale of @Mad_Son settlement, even in this fucked up age of college football.Tequilla said:
It really is mind numbingYellowSnow said:This sums up my beef with DeBoer.
There’s always going to be other great opportunities out there for great coaches.
But you don’t have 1 foot out the door in year 2 in the middle of a Natty run.
Fuck that guy forever.
The reason you get into the sports business at a high level is to compete and win championships … if you do that the money follows
To torpedo your chances when you get that chance (and there’s no guarantee you’ll ever get that chance again) speaks volumes about your character and priorities
DeBoer had ZERO connection to Bamma or the SEC.
He was already in a Year 2 CFP/Natty run at a Top 10 to 20 type program about to triple the original salary. And that's not good enough to still around for 4 or 5 years? What the fuck.
I guess the lack of recruiting was a tell that people like me who hate TBSing ignored at our peril.
Not only did Sexton get Deboer paid, he gets the rest of his stable paid to boot. The average sports agent takes between 4-10%, and I'd bet Jimmy is a LOT closer to 10 than 4. Kalen didn't have an "in" at Bama, but Jimmy did...That's why agents get paid.
IDK about the TBS stuff, but it was (after the fact), and continues to be apparent that it affected Deboer rolling to the end of what was a monumental season. By appearances, he didn't handle it well, at all.
You're not in Sioux Falls any more, Toto...
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Was the stadium that much "vice" though? $250 million seems rather cheap looking at what new stadiums run these days, and I would describe it as more of a "need" than a "want".pawz said:
Probably not at least until the vice of stadium debt is in the rear view mirror.YellowSnow said:
I wonder if we’ll ever get to a point when universities don’t want to deal with this malarkey anymore.Fishpo31 said:
Who were the names in consideration? All Jimmy Sexton guys, every fucking one of them. I've dealt with enough agents to know that if Deboer would have signed that contract at Thanksgiving, he would currently be shopping for a new agent. Football coaches coach football. Agents make money, for their clients, and for themselves.YellowSnow said:
It's beyond the pale of @Mad_Son settlement, even in this fucked up age of college football.Tequilla said:
It really is mind numbingYellowSnow said:This sums up my beef with DeBoer.
There’s always going to be other great opportunities out there for great coaches.
But you don’t have 1 foot out the door in year 2 in the middle of a Natty run.
Fuck that guy forever.
The reason you get into the sports business at a high level is to compete and win championships … if you do that the money follows
To torpedo your chances when you get that chance (and there’s no guarantee you’ll ever get that chance again) speaks volumes about your character and priorities
DeBoer had ZERO connection to Bamma or the SEC.
He was already in a Year 2 CFP/Natty run at a Top 10 to 20 type program about to triple the original salary. And that's not good enough to still around for 4 or 5 years? What the fuck.
I guess the lack of recruiting was a tell that people like me who hate TBSing ignored at our peril.
Not only did Sexton get Deboer paid, he gets the rest of his stable paid to boot. The average sports agent takes between 4-10%, and I'd bet Jimmy is a LOT closer to 10 than 4. Kalen didn't have an "in" at Bama, but Jimmy did...That's why agents get paid.
IDK about the TBS stuff, but it was (after the fact), and continues to be apparent that it affected Deboer rolling to the end of what was a monumental season. By appearances, he didn't handle it well, at all.
You're not in Sioux Falls any more, Toto...
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The King of Typos has spoken!!!CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Was the weasel in New Orleans on some kind of parade float and if so, did UW know about it? If it’s something Dannen or his staff knew about and didn’t notice or worse, blessed off on, then they need to get their shit together.dirtysouwfdawg said:
So far… the weasel thing was pretty stupid though that was only under his watch and not his doing but just like in my real life, one of my subordinates fucks up, I fucked up.jecornel said:Let’s hope.
PostGameOrangeSlices said:Dannen is a lot of things, but he isn't an idiot.
I suspect the Sugar Bowl committee/staff/Madri Gras people did a Google search for UW, found it and had it printed out and stuck it on the float. If that’s the case, that shit is on Cohen for not getting an intern to figure out how to suppress/remove the image from the internet.
As for the Huskie thing, who amongst us hasn’t had a typo before? -
I never realized that Bob Woodward voiced his opinion on this. Incredible.CallMeBigErn said:
