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Will Pete Carroll just be another elderly coach who now sucks?

Sandra6
Sandra6 Member Posts: 151
edited January 2024 in Hardcore Husky Board
15 years ago, we saw this with Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno. Now, we're seeing it with Bill Belichick and Gregg Popovich. The once great coach who gets old and sucks in their old age.

I think that half the reason why Saban retired is because he realized he'd soon start sucking, too.

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  • Seven_Eleven
    Seven_Eleven Member Posts: 124
    I don’t know, but anyone under 19 wasn’t alive when USC won their title, so unsure how much sizzle he has anymore
  • PineapplePirate
    PineapplePirate Member Posts: 4,628

    I don’t know, but anyone under 19 wasn’t alive when USC won their title, so unsure how much sizzle he has anymore

    Both dads were though
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,836

    never underestimate Pete's adrenochrome injections

    You’d do well over at the Tug Tavern.
  • PatsDoog
    PatsDoog Member Posts: 159
    Pete still has it. Ill push back on Pop being washed on your list, too. That roster is horrid outside of Wemby.
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,641
    younger coaches fizzle out too
  • Postal91
    Postal91 Member Posts: 1,890

    I don’t know, but anyone under 19 wasn’t alive when USC won their title, so unsure how much sizzle he has anymore

    They may remember him winning a super bowl or being the head coach of an NFL team..... So there is that.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Old coach just GM and specific wheelhouse stuff

    Old coach not do gameday play calling, small details, and high pressure time sensitive tasks

    its not hard.
  • Sandra6
    Sandra6 Member Posts: 151
    edited January 2024
    PatsDoog said:

    Pete still has it. Ill push back on Pop being washed on your list, too. That roster is horrid outside of Wemby.

    I've heard that about the Spurs roster, but I really can't imagine that a coach with 5 championships has zero say over what his roster is. If the roster sucks, I think that's largely Pop's fault, anyway.

    Usually the "woke" people are the people who defend who bad Pop is nowadays. I mean, the Spurs were tied for last place in the Western Conference last year, and their last winning season was about 5 years ago. And now they're somehow worse than ever after improving the roster by adding Wemby.
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    Postal91 said:

    I don’t know, but anyone under 19 wasn’t alive when USC won their title, so unsure how much sizzle he has anymore

    They may remember him winning a super bowl or being the head coach of an NFL team..... So there is that.
    It’s all about the NFL with the kids.
  • DoogmanRefund
    DoogmanRefund Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 995 Swaye's Wigwam
    I still feel like an idiot for indulging this topic, but I don’t think there’s really a great comp here. Pete is Dennis Erickson with more success at both levels and no drinking problems.
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,295 Founders Club
    Mods?

    Friday Sacrifice please.
  • Sandra6
    Sandra6 Member Posts: 151

    I still feel like an idiot for indulging this topic, but I don’t think there’s really a great comp here. Pete is Dennis Erickson with more success at both levels and no drinking problems.

    Well, now that you bring that up, Erickson sucked in his last job at ASU. I don't remember how old he was by then.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,072
    Sandra6 said:

    PatsDoog said:

    Pete still has it. Ill push back on Pop being washed on your list, too. That roster is horrid outside of Wemby.

    I've heard that about the Spurs roster, but I really can't imagine that a coach with 5 championships has zero say over what his roster is. If the roster sucks, I think that's largely Pop's fault, anyway.

    Usually the "woke" people are the ones who defend who bad Pop is nowadays. I mean, they were tied for last place in the Western Conference last year, and their last winning season was about 5 years ago. And now they're somehow worse than ever after improving the roster with Wemby.
    Wtf are you talking about? Firecohen makes more fucking sense then this.
  • gmo
    gmo Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,838 Founders Club
    edited January 2024
    fucking hell some of the takes on PC on here are awful.

    age.. the man acts way more like a 52 year old than a 72 year old. This isn't Biden (TITTT).

    one of the best recruiters in the history of the Pac. No joke with that. Do a little Googling kids.

    credibility. How many still coaching have major NFL cred and major ncaa power cred.

    i do not think we will be lucky enough to land him... but holy fuck to think he wouldn't be an amazing hire is downright stupid.
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,295 Founders Club

    Sandra6 said:

    PatsDoog said:

    Pete still has it. Ill push back on Pop being washed on your list, too. That roster is horrid outside of Wemby.

    I've heard that about the Spurs roster, but I really can't imagine that a coach with 5 championships has zero say over what his roster is. If the roster sucks, I think that's largely Pop's fault, anyway.

    Usually the "woke" people are the ones who defend who bad Pop is nowadays. I mean, they were tied for last place in the Western Conference last year, and their last winning season was about 5 years ago. And now they're somehow worse than ever after improving the roster with Wemby.
    Wtf are you talking about? Firecohen makes more fucking sense then this.
    YRYK
  • Sandra6
    Sandra6 Member Posts: 151
    edited January 2024

    Sandra6 said:

    PatsDoog said:

    Pete still has it. Ill push back on Pop being washed on your list, too. That roster is horrid outside of Wemby.

    I've heard that about the Spurs roster, but I really can't imagine that a coach with 5 championships has zero say over what his roster is. If the roster sucks, I think that's largely Pop's fault, anyway.

    Usually the "woke" people are the ones who defend who bad Pop is nowadays. I mean, they were tied for last place in the Western Conference last year, and their last winning season was about 5 years ago. And now they're somehow worse than ever after improving the roster with Wemby.
    Wtf are you talking about? Firecohen makes more fucking sense then this.

    I was responding to PatsDoog's claim that the Spurs roster sucks and that Popovich doesn't suck too. I was saying that the Spurs are now on about their 5th straight losing season, they keep getting worse and worse every year (even after adding Wemby before this year), and that even if the Spurs roster sucks that's largely Popovich's fault for not demanding a better roster.
  • wooderson92
    wooderson92 Member Posts: 125
    Sandra6 said:

    I still feel like an idiot for indulging this topic, but I don’t think there’s really a great comp here. Pete is Dennis Erickson with more success at both levels and no drinking problems.

    Well, now that you bring that up, Erickson sucked in his last job at ASU. I don't remember how old he was by then.
    Erickson was P10 coach of the year in his first szn at ASU. But, yes, nosedived after that the next three years. I'd argue ASU is where coaching careers end, so not the best comp
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,256
    Football coaching is bizarre

    We have coaches with zero experience getting millions of dollars and carte Blanche

    Experience? Game has passed you by
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,295 Founders Club
    ERISKON WAZ DRIKIG COCKTIALS!!!!!!11!!
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,579 Standard Supporter
    Sandra6 said:

    PatsDoog said:

    Pete still has it. Ill push back on Pop being washed on your list, too. That roster is horrid outside of Wemby.

    I've heard that about the Spurs roster, but I really can't imagine that a coach with 5 championships has zero say over what his roster is. If the roster sucks, I think that's largely Pop's fault, anyway.

    Usually the "woke" people are the ones who defend who bad Pop is nowadays. I mean, they were tied for last place in the Western Conference last year, and their last winning season was about 5 years ago. And now they're somehow worse than ever after improving the roster with Wemby.
    I had a woke man child who went off on me in 2017 because I disagreed with one of his stupid, pandering woke statements.

    I remember the Slurs being really good from roughly 1999 to 2015 with admiral, the big three, Bowen, Kwahi Leonard, and some role guys. I don't care about today's woke NBA which is three guys waiting for three pointers and these skinny 6' 11" guys who think they're small forwards. There's zero post play.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,072
    Sandra6 said:

    Sandra6 said:

    PatsDoog said:

    Pete still has it. Ill push back on Pop being washed on your list, too. That roster is horrid outside of Wemby.

    I've heard that about the Spurs roster, but I really can't imagine that a coach with 5 championships has zero say over what his roster is. If the roster sucks, I think that's largely Pop's fault, anyway.

    Usually the "woke" people are the ones who defend who bad Pop is nowadays. I mean, they were tied for last place in the Western Conference last year, and their last winning season was about 5 years ago. And now they're somehow worse than ever after improving the roster with Wemby.
    Wtf are you talking about? Firecohen makes more fucking sense then this.

    I was responding to PatsDoog's claim that the Spurs roster sucks and that Popovich doesn't suck too. I was saying that the Spurs are now on about their 5th straight losing season, they keep getting worse and worse every year (even after adding Wemby before this year), and that even if the Spurs roster sucks that's largely Popovich's fault for not demanding a better roster.
    Inserting the word woke into that incoherent ramble was the kiss of death.
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537

    Sandra6 said:

    PatsDoog said:

    Pete still has it. Ill push back on Pop being washed on your list, too. That roster is horrid outside of Wemby.

    I've heard that about the Spurs roster, but I really can't imagine that a coach with 5 championships has zero say over what his roster is. If the roster sucks, I think that's largely Pop's fault, anyway.

    Usually the "woke" people are the ones who defend who bad Pop is nowadays. I mean, they were tied for last place in the Western Conference last year, and their last winning season was about 5 years ago. And now they're somehow worse than ever after improving the roster with Wemby.
    I had a woke man child who went off on me in 2017 because I disagreed with one of his stupid, pandering woke statements.

    I remember the Slurs being really good from roughly 1999 to 2015 with admiral, the big three, Bowen, Kwahi Leonard, and some role guys. I don't care about today's woke NBA which is three guys waiting for three pointers and these skinny 6' 11" guys who think they're small forwards. There's zero post play.
    peak boomer brain rambling by you two
  • PatsDoog
    PatsDoog Member Posts: 159
    this thread went to shit in record time
  • Sandra6
    Sandra6 Member Posts: 151
    edited January 2024

    Sandra6 said:

    Sandra6 said:

    PatsDoog said:

    Pete still has it. Ill push back on Pop being washed on your list, too. That roster is horrid outside of Wemby.

    I've heard that about the Spurs roster, but I really can't imagine that a coach with 5 championships has zero say over what his roster is. If the roster sucks, I think that's largely Pop's fault, anyway.

    Usually the "woke" people are the ones who defend who bad Pop is nowadays. I mean, they were tied for last place in the Western Conference last year, and their last winning season was about 5 years ago. And now they're somehow worse than ever after improving the roster with Wemby.
    Wtf are you talking about? Firecohen makes more fucking sense then this.

    I was responding to PatsDoog's claim that the Spurs roster sucks and that Popovich doesn't suck too. I was saying that the Spurs are now on about their 5th straight losing season, they keep getting worse and worse every year (even after adding Wemby before this year), and that even if the Spurs roster sucks that's largely Popovich's fault for not demanding a better roster.
    Inserting the word woke into that incoherent ramble was the kiss of death.

    Popovich is famous for making woke statements. I think that the people who defend Popovich are woke people who agree with his political views.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,662 Founders Club
    It's probably Leipold which is fine, dude has been impressive, 9 wins at Kansas vs 9 wins at Fresno is a shittier conference, but I want to know what their plan is going to be for the roster and recruiting.
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,266
    Joe Gibbs took 12 years off the from football and came back to the worst franchise in the league. He made the franchise better in his 4 years (2 playoff appearance). It’s still the last playoff game they’ve won.

    Paterno had some very bad seasons as he aged but he still had some excellent seasons. They were 8-1 when he was fired. Below is basically starting at age 69:




    Bottom line: all-time great coaches can always coach, up until they physically or mentally lose it.
  • Sandra6
    Sandra6 Member Posts: 151
    haie said:

    It's probably Leipold which is fine, dude has been impressive, 9 wins at Kansas vs 9 wins at Fresno is a shittier conference, but I want to know what their plan is going to be for the roster and recruiting.


    Yeah, people keep forgetting that Deboer's relevant resume was a 12-6 record in just 2 years at an MWC school. (And lol if you cared about his record more than a decade earlier in the even shittier NAIA.) His resume didn't exactly seem to be the greatest of all time when he was hired.

    I actually think Leipold has a better pre-hiring resume than DeBoer did.
  • Sandra6
    Sandra6 Member Posts: 151
    edited January 2024
    whlinder said:

    Joe Gibbs took 12 years off the from football and came back to the worst franchise in the league. He made the franchise better in his 4 years (2 playoff appearance). It’s still the last playoff game they’ve won.

    Paterno had some very bad seasons as he aged but he still had some excellent seasons. They were 8-1 when he was fired. Below is basically starting at age 69:




    Bottom line: all-time great coaches can always coach, up until they physically or mentally lose it.


    Oh, God, did you seriously mention Joe Gibbs as a counterexample? He was 30-34 in his second stint. Before Belichick, he was considered the ultimate example of an NFL coach who damaged his reputation by coaching when he was too old. Yeah, he was better than Spurrier's 12-20 record- what a great achievement.

    It's not much of a secret that Penn State suffered 4 losing seasons in 5 years from 2000-04 because Paterno was actually trying to coach the team, and PSU did okayish from 2005-11 because PSU forced Paterno to become a do nothing figurehead while the assistants ran the team.