So in our country, 7 democrats per state can decide elections
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https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/alan-dershowitz-colorado-supreme-court/2023/12/20/id/1146629/
n the 60 years I've been practicing and teaching law, I've never seen a decision that's so anti-democratic and so unconstitutional; it is absurd," Dershowitz told co-hosts Emma Rechenberg and Jon Glasgow. "The idea that the 14th Amendment was supposed to substitute for the impeachment provision, carefully drafted by the framers, is wrong."
The 14th Amendment stipulates the process, which clearly says Congress shall have the power to ensure that a person cannot run for office, Dershowitz continued.
"If you want to impeach a president, if you want to make him not be able to run in the future, there's a provision. It requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate," he said. "But the idea that the framers of the 14th Amendment intended to circumvent that carefully drawn provision and simply allow any state to make up grounds for denying him the right to be on the ballot undercuts democracy."
Also, the Harvard University professor emeritus noted, Trump has not been charged or convicted of taking part in an insurrection, a term that has not been defined legally.
The U.S. Supreme Court will rule against the Colorado decision, and with more than just a conservative majority, according to Dershowitz.
"I think this case will be decided not along party lines in the Supreme Court," he said. "I think this is such an extreme stretch of the 14th Amendment that he will get more votes than just the people he appointed to the Supreme Court or even the 5-4 conservative majority. I suspect you'll get the chief justice, and I suspect he'll get some other justices, as well.
"This is an extreme, extreme stretch. If you go and read the text of the provision, it doesn't even apply to president. It says no person shall by a senator, or representative or elector, and then it gives an oath of office, and the oath of office is not the presidential oath of office. It's the senatorial oath of office.
"So even the text of the Constitution doesn't make it applicable to the president. But the amendment itself was designed simply to prevent people who fought in the Civil War from running for certain offices."
Yeah but still
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This board needs better lawyers.UWerentThereMan said:This board needs a better Colmes.
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No kidding!Bob_C said:
This board needs better lawyers.UWerentThereMan said:This board needs a better Colmes.
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Self awareness was never your strength.HHusky said:
No kidding!Bob_C said:
This board needs better lawyers.UWerentThereMan said:This board needs a better Colmes.
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When was the trail? I miss it? Doesn't a person get trail before getting convicted of a crime? Aren't you a lawyer?HHusky said:
Didn't you go to law school, allegedly? The Colorado Supreme Court affirmed the trial court in part and reversed in part.WestlinnDuck said:
When you explain why Jack Smith the federal prosecutor using lawfare against Trump didn't charge him with insurrection but that's what the dem Colorado Supreme Court found Trump guilty of without a trial then you would have a point. Trump is popular and he didn't commit insurrection. Once again, just phucking strawman ass without buying dinner.HHusky said:Too popular to be accountable is your argument.
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The dazzler needs a better mythical law degree. Dershowitz and Turley, both democrats attorneys had a cogent analysis showing the ridiculousness of the Colorado SC decision. The dazzler has not posted any analysis and called it a trial (there wasn't one) yet has very strong feelings that Trump can't run for president. Truly a great legal mind.Bob_C said:
This board needs better lawyers.UWerentThereMan said:This board needs a better Colmes.
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Thanks for the laugh.WestlinnDuck said:
Dershowitz and Turley, both democrats attorneysBob_C said:
This board needs better lawyers.UWerentThereMan said:This board needs a better Colmes.
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Quite the persuasive argument from our mythical attorney. Maybe stick to mythical MBA issues like the air tight internal controls on blue county elections.HHusky said:
Thanks for the laugh.WestlinnDuck said:
Dershowitz and Turley, both democrats attorneysBob_C said:
This board needs better lawyers.UWerentThereMan said:This board needs a better Colmes.
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If their argument was so great, why did you choose to misrepresent their politics?WestlinnDuck said:
Quite the persuasive argument from our mythical attorney. Maybe stick to mythical MBA issues like the air tight internal controls on blue county elections.HHusky said:
Thanks for the laugh.WestlinnDuck said:
Dershowitz and Turley, both democrats attorneysBob_C said:
This board needs better lawyers.UWerentThereMan said:This board needs a better Colmes.
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Feel free.HHusky said:
If their argument was so great, why did you choose to misrepresent their politics?WestlinnDuck said:
Quite the persuasive argument from our mythical attorney. Maybe stick to mythical MBA issues like the air tight internal controls on blue county elections.HHusky said:
Thanks for the laugh.WestlinnDuck said:
Dershowitz and Turley, both democrats attorneysBob_C said:
This board needs better lawyers.UWerentThereMan said:This board needs a better Colmes.
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Yeah but still, the affirmative action justices will dissent.RaceBannon said:https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/alan-dershowitz-colorado-supreme-court/2023/12/20/id/1146629/
n the 60 years I've been practicing and teaching law, I've never seen a decision that's so anti-democratic and so unconstitutional; it is absurd," Dershowitz told co-hosts Emma Rechenberg and Jon Glasgow. "The idea that the 14th Amendment was supposed to substitute for the impeachment provision, carefully drafted by the framers, is wrong."
The 14th Amendment stipulates the process, which clearly says Congress shall have the power to ensure that a person cannot run for office, Dershowitz continued.
"If you want to impeach a president, if you want to make him not be able to run in the future, there's a provision. It requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate," he said. "But the idea that the framers of the 14th Amendment intended to circumvent that carefully drawn provision and simply allow any state to make up grounds for denying him the right to be on the ballot undercuts democracy."
Also, the Harvard University professor emeritus noted, Trump has not been charged or convicted of taking part in an insurrection, a term that has not been defined legally.
The U.S. Supreme Court will rule against the Colorado decision, and with more than just a conservative majority, according to Dershowitz.
"I think this case will be decided not along party lines in the Supreme Court," he said. "I think this is such an extreme stretch of the 14th Amendment that he will get more votes than just the people he appointed to the Supreme Court or even the 5-4 conservative majority. I suspect you'll get the chief justice, and I suspect he'll get some other justices, as well.
"This is an extreme, extreme stretch. If you go and read the text of the provision, it doesn't even apply to president. It says no person shall by a senator, or representative or elector, and then it gives an oath of office, and the oath of office is not the presidential oath of office. It's the senatorial oath of office.
"So even the text of the Constitution doesn't make it applicable to the president. But the amendment itself was designed simply to prevent people who fought in the Civil War from running for certain offices."
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If the state Colorado wants to play games, then take away their electoral votes.
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It takes a special dishonesty to say Dershowitz isn't a DemocratHHusky said:definitive
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https://mustreadalaska.com/that-time-democrats-removed-abe-lincoln-from-the-ballot/
Nothing new Demonrat racists have been at this shit forever. -
Those Colorado Supremes deserve a date with a liberty tree.
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Dershowitz went against the Party
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Lol I actually looked at the article
Content free gay useless content
Wanting Israel obliterated isn't anti Semitic
Criticism of Soros is
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I guess I’ll be proven right or wrong but my guess is low voter turnout with a Biden win
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You know it was Republicans who filed the motion in Colorado. Surely, this is something you know.Sledog said:https://mustreadalaska.com/that-time-democrats-removed-abe-lincoln-from-the-ballot/
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Do you ever tire of being so blatantly wrong about things?HHusky said:definitive
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RightMelloDawg said:
You know it was Republicans who filed the motion in Colorado. Surely, this is something you know.Sledog said:https://mustreadalaska.com/that-time-democrats-removed-abe-lincoln-from-the-ballot/
Nothing new Demonrat racists have been at this shit forever.
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Problem is you can't beat his minions in the GOP... so we are stuck with him and hope he doesn't screw up.Pitchfork51 said:
But my contention is that all trumps nonsense gets in the way to the point the average person doesn’t care about any of the shit they do. Which is how they get away with it.Bendintheriver said:
I agree with Trump needing to fade into retirement and championing a stronger candidate (I will be voting Trump if he is on the ballot) but letting the bad guys do this shit and get away with it is unacceptable. Somehow we have to get our country back from the far left who literally are taking away our rights as Americans.Pitchfork51 said:Its why we need trump to go away. the longer hes around the more dems can get away normalizing shit like this.
First it was blatant cheating where everyone turned a blind eye "eh its only in this extreme circumstance it's okay to keep trump out!"
If people weren’t so sick of trumps antics the non die hard dems would be up in arms over banning candidates from running and stuff. (Since it’s an obvious bad idea that will backfire eventually) But the average person is so exhausted of them that it’s all just noise that gets drowned out -
I think that's due to the law suits... so in that way, it may be a blessing.Bendintheriver said:
I understand what you are saying but it really doesn't matter who the candidate is, the press is going to tell their lies and skewer him or her. They will be vicious on Nikki just like they were to DeSantis and even his cancer survivor wife who by all accounts is an angel. Trump is serving a purpose. He is a sacrificial lamb at this point. The guy fighting like hell against a corrupt system. Last week the NYT was caught AGAIN just flat lying about what Trump said. That is not going to stop no matter who the GOP candidate is.Pitchfork51 said:
But my contention is that all trumps nonsense gets in the way to the point the average person doesn’t care about any of the shit they do. Which is how they get away with it.Bendintheriver said:
I agree with Trump needing to fade into retirement and championing a stronger candidate (I will be voting Trump if he is on the ballot) but letting the bad guys do this shit and get away with it is unacceptable. Somehow we have to get our country back from the far left who literally are taking away our rights as Americans.Pitchfork51 said:Its why we need trump to go away. the longer hes around the more dems can get away normalizing shit like this.
First it was blatant cheating where everyone turned a blind eye "eh its only in this extreme circumstance it's okay to keep trump out!"
If people weren’t so sick of trumps antics the non die hard dems would be up in arms over banning candidates from running and stuff. (Since it’s an obvious bad idea that will backfire eventually) But the average person is so exhausted of them that it’s all just noise that gets drowned out
I do have to chuckle though when it comes to Trump 2024 vs 2020. You hardly hear from him now. His handlers have gotten him from posting on social media 50 times a day to much less and some days it is zero. Yet people continue to complain about him and social media. -
Turley is the bestRaceBannon said:
So the reply from the morons is the same
It doesn't say you need a conviction
Which proves the point. 7 democrats with no evidence are subverting democracy
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You can amend the Constitution, girls. Get busy!Goduckies said:
Turley is the bestRaceBannon said:
So the reply from the morons is the same
It doesn't say you need a conviction
Which proves the point. 7 democrats with no evidence are subverting democracy
Fascists cheer
