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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    sdawg14 said:

    the only problem I have with the fake punt is where Washington was where they did it. They should have been at Stanford's 35 or 40 when you are in no mans land for a field goal and a punt does not do you much good and then try a fake with Shaq Thompson.

    This. Maybe I'm stuck in 1965 but you never fake punt in your own territory. It's not the Party Bowl vs. Oklahomo where are you have nothing to lose and your stupid running back proposes to loose cheerleaders on the sideline.
    You're stuck in 1965.

    Statistically it makes no sense to fake a punt in your own territory. You are much more likely to just convert it on offense than with a fake that the defense is sitting on. You do it where you shouldn't on the field because of the surprise element.

    That's why surprise onside kicks are recovered at a higher rate than ones you line up for.
  • Vegasdawg
    Vegasdawg Member Posts: 370
    Peterman called the best play he could on the fake punt, given the lack of offense. And that should tell us something as to how bad he he believed the QB and OL are, and the quality of his RB's.
  • priapism
    priapism Member Posts: 2,305
    Ross's kick return for TD was a positive.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,626 Standard Supporter

    sdawg14 said:

    the only problem I have with the fake punt is where Washington was where they did it. They should have been at Stanford's 35 or 40 when you are in no mans land for a field goal and a punt does not do you much good and then try a fake with Shaq Thompson.

    This. Maybe I'm stuck in 1965 but you never fake punt in your own territory. It's not the Party Bowl vs. Oklahomo where are you have nothing to lose and your stupid running back proposes to loose cheerleaders on the sideline.
    You're stuck in 1965.

    Statistically it makes no sense to fake a punt in your own territory. You are much more likely to just convert it on offense than with a fake that the defense is sitting on. You do it where you shouldn't on the field because of the surprise element.

    That's why surprise onside kicks are recovered at a higher rate than ones you line up for.
    Onside kicks are a desperation move. They were tied of the time. Durkee had done a good job all day. Kick the ball and make Shaw and Hogan Family go 85-90 yards. I don't see them getting a touchdown. They might get a field goal. There's a good chance they get conservative when they're backed up like that.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    I am also on the "punting was the right call but I understand why he faked it" wagon.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    PurpleJ said:

    Good news: We still play in the Pac-12

    Bad news: We lost and looked depressingly bad in the 2nd half (adjustments?)

    Here's the thing I don't get, we were playing Stanford. I'm not into moral victories. But this "depressingly bad" shit doesn't make any sense. That's a good team. Losing to the second best team in the league by 7 is not enough to freak out over.
    Stanford isn't the second best team in the league.

    Hope this helps.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    dnc said:

    Houhusky said:

    I think punting was the right move as well and I was pissed that he faked it. But I understand why he did.

    why?
    Because the defense was already gassed and the offense can't generate anything on it's own.
    That argument works on their 40.

    On your 40, you still need 20 more yards if you're right, and they only need 10 if you're wrong.

    It was a fucking stupid decision.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Who is the 2nd best team in the league? My gut says Oregon or UCLA...
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    PurpleJ said:

    Good news: We still play in the Pac-12

    Bad news: We lost and looked depressingly bad in the 2nd half (adjustments?)

    Here's the thing I don't get, we were playing Stanford. I'm not into moral victories. But this "depressingly bad" shit doesn't make any sense. That's a good team. Losing to the second best team in the league by 7 is not enough to freak out over.
    Stanford isn't the second best team in the league.

    Hope this helps.
    LIPO.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    PurpleJ said:

    Who is the 2nd best team in the league? My gut says Oregon or UCLA...

    Correct, those are the top two teams in the league, and at the moment it's not even close.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    PurpleJ said:

    Good news: We still play in the Pac-12

    Bad news: We lost and looked depressingly bad in the 2nd half (adjustments?)

    Here's the thing I don't get, we were playing Stanford. I'm not into moral victories. But this "depressingly bad" shit doesn't make any sense. That's a good team. Losing to the second best team in the league by 7 is not enough to freak out over.
    Stanford isn't the second best team in the league.

    Hope this helps.
    LIPO.
    USC 13, at Stanford 10.

  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    PurpleJ said:

    Good news: We still play in the Pac-12

    Bad news: We lost and looked depressingly bad in the 2nd half (adjustments?)

    Here's the thing I don't get, we were playing Stanford. I'm not into moral victories. But this "depressingly bad" shit doesn't make any sense. That's a good team. Losing to the second best team in the league by 7 is not enough to freak out over.
    Stanford isn't the second best team in the league.

    Hope this helps.
    LIPO.
    USC 13, at Stanford 10.

    USC 0 at BC 1,000,000,000
  • Hippopeteamus
    Hippopeteamus Member Posts: 1,958

    PurpleJ said:

    Good news: We still play in the Pac-12

    Bad news: We lost and looked depressingly bad in the 2nd half (adjustments?)

    Here's the thing I don't get, we were playing Stanford. I'm not into moral victories. But this "depressingly bad" shit doesn't make any sense. That's a good team. Losing to the second best team in the league by 7 is not enough to freak out over.
    Stanford isn't the second best team in the league.

    Hope this helps.
    LIPO.
    USC 13, at Stanford 10.

    USC 0 at BC 1,000,000,000
    So BC 1,000,000,000 at Stanford -3
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,894 Founders Club
    Last year Stanford beat them both. None of them are last year's team bu its awfully warm for November