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Penix Shoulder From an NFL Perspective

vadawg
vadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 467 Swaye's Wigwam
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Was talking with a family member yesterday during Turkey Day. He’s a scout for the NY Football Giants. Word in the NFL circles is that Penix has a degenerative shoulder injury. I’d never heard this but, he was pretty adamant and his team is steering away from Penix as a prospect.

Anyone else heard this rumor? Thoughts
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  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,756
    edited November 2023
    I don’t understand
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  • NeGgaPlEaSe
    NeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,756
    edited November 2023
    vadawg said:

    Was talking with a family member yesterday during Turkey Day. He’s a scout for the NY Football Giants. Word in the NFL circles is that Penix has a degenerative shoulder injury. I’d never heard this but, he was pretty adamant and his team is steering away from Penix as a prospect.

    Anyone else heard this rumor? Thoughts

    Delete this dumbshit. Why even put it out there . Markell crashed a motorcycle during his rookie year. That’s a different story
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  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    YellowSnow said:

    dirtysouwfdawg said:

    At least 25% of the league would be stupid to not take a flyer on him considering the drek QB they trot out every week. 3-4 years of him and and above avg D and you’re a playoff contender.

    NFL decision makers are dumb fucks.

    I can appreciate not using a 1st round pick on Penix cause of the injury history. But man, seems like a pretty low risk proposition to take him in the second or third.
    If someone like Geno Smith can have a long career in the NFL, Penix certainly should be able to.

    Then again, I’m not an NFL scout or a guy named Kiper so what do I know.
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  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    This! Fans that watch players for 3-4 seasons know about guys potential than the losers in the NFL. Their egos get in the way time and again. The QB evaluations are horrid. For instance, Zach Wilson.
    dirtysouwfdawg said:

    At least 25% of the league would be stupid to not take a flyer on him considering the drek QB they trot out every week. 3-4 years of him and and above avg D and you’re a playoff contender.

    NFL decision makers are dumb fucks.

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  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,037 Founders Club
    TheHB said:

    YellowSnow said:

    dirtysouwfdawg said:

    At least 25% of the league would be stupid to not take a flyer on him considering the drek QB they trot out every week. 3-4 years of him and and above avg D and you’re a playoff contender.

    NFL decision makers are dumb fucks.

    I can appreciate not using a 1st round pick on Penix cause of the injury history. But man, seems like a pretty low risk proposition to take him in the second or third.
    If someone like Geno Smith can have a long career in the NFL, Penix certainly should be able to.

    Then again, I’m not an NFL scout or a guy named Kiper so what do I know.
    The only thing I see holding back Penix is injury. Especially with how many dud QBs are starting games.
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  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,107
    vadawg said:

    Was talking with a family member yesterday during Turkey Day. He’s a scout for the NY Football Giants. Word in the NFL circles is that Penix has a degenerative shoulder injury. I’d never heard this but, he was pretty adamant and his team is steering away from Penix as a prospect.

    Anyone else heard this rumor? Thoughts

    Fuck off for posting this here. I wouldn’t have a problem with it in the wam, but you shouldn’t be putting shit like that on the main board.
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  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    Tell your “family member” he sucks at his job. I’d rather shoot myself in the knee caps instead of watching the Giants. Shit organization and shit team.

    vadawg said:

    Was talking with a family member yesterday during Turkey Day. He’s a scout for the NY Football Giants. Word in the NFL circles is that Penix has a degenerative shoulder injury. I’d never heard this but, he was pretty adamant and his team is steering away from Penix as a prospect.

    Anyone else heard this rumor? Thoughts

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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,236 Founders Club
    Penix probably doesn’t go top 5-10 but a team like Minnesota picking in the late teens or early 20s could take a swing on him.

    I call absolute BS on the shoulder thing. It doesn’t show up at all in his play.
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    Penix probably doesn’t go top 5-10 but a team like Minnesota picking in the late teens or early 20s could take a swing on him.

    I call absolute BS on the shoulder thing. It doesn’t show up at all in his play.

    his delivery looks funny, but the ball gets there with ease
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  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,244 Standard Supporter
    So play him 4 years or whatever on a rookie contract.
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  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    Didn't this happen with Chris Polk? We all were surprised he wasn't drafted, and when he wasn't, it was reported that he had a degenerative shoulder condition, which none of us had heard before, and even Chris Polk denied.

    Always thought that was strange, and wondered how NFL scouts obtain such information. Do they just assume an injury *might* be degenerative and therefore it's not worth the risk?
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  • DoogmanRefund
    DoogmanRefund Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,002 Swaye's Wigwam
    Fenderbender123 said:

    Didn't this happen with Chris Polk? We all were surprised he wasn't drafted, and when he wasn't, it was reported that he had a degenerative shoulder condition, which none of us had heard before, and even Chris Polk denied.

    Always thought that was strange, and wondered how NFL scouts obtain such information. Do they just assume an injury *might* be degenerative and therefore it's not worth the risk?

    I assumed that came up at the combine.
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  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,084
    rodmansrage said:

    vadawg said:

    Was talking with a family member yesterday during Turkey Day. He’s a scout for the NY Football Giants. Word in the NFL circles is that Penix has a degenerative shoulder injury. I’d never heard this but, he was pretty adamant and his team is steering away from Penix as a prospect.

    Anyone else heard this rumor? Thoughts

    color me shocked the giants have a shit scouting department.
    Not true. They nailed the Daniel jones pick and then rewarded him handsomely with that well earned contract.
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  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,084
    dtd said:

    So play him 4 years or whatever on a rookie contract.

    As long as he gets a second contract my doog heart will rest easy.
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  • CatGut
    CatGut Member Posts: 92
    Fenderbender123 said:

    Didn't this happen with Chris Polk? We all were surprised he wasn't drafted, and when he wasn't, it was reported that he had a degenerative shoulder condition, which none of us had heard before, and even Chris Polk denied.

    Always thought that was strange, and wondered how NFL scouts obtain such information. Do they just assume an injury *might* be degenerative and therefore it's not worth the risk?

    Polk had multiple shoulder surgeries in college. I think he dislocated it a few times too. He also just put a ton of miles on his body the way he ran. I don’t think it was a big surprise that the NFL had injury concerns.
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  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,107
    CatGut said:

    Fenderbender123 said:

    Didn't this happen with Chris Polk? We all were surprised he wasn't drafted, and when he wasn't, it was reported that he had a degenerative shoulder condition, which none of us had heard before, and even Chris Polk denied.

    Always thought that was strange, and wondered how NFL scouts obtain such information. Do they just assume an injury *might* be degenerative and therefore it's not worth the risk?

    Polk had multiple shoulder surgeries in college. I think he dislocated it a few times too. He also just put a ton of miles on his body the way he ran. I don’t think it was a big surprise that the NFL had injury concerns.
    This. He always had some kind of brace apparatus on one of his shoulders, you could see it halfway down his bicep.
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  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    The 3/4/sidearm delivery is more the issue.
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  • dOgmaster
    dOgmaster Member Posts: 589
    Calling bs on this.
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