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creepycoug
creepycoug Member Posts: 24,380
edited November 2023 in Tug Tavern
that there isn't more Israel/Terrorist talk in the Tug. @RaceBannon this place is slipping.

I've been looking for some ammo for my arguments IRL. Rather than doing real research, I tend to come here.

It is fucking shocking how public opinion in our country is swinging to sympathy for Palestinians. NVM the naked aggression of 10/7. These fucking people who practice their religion more zealously and barbarically than anyone did in medieval times are impossible to reach on any level other than brutal violence, and it's not a few crazies in Hamas and a population of peace loving folks just trying to get by. Hamas enjoys wide support, and almost all of them agree on the ultimate goal.

What was Israel to do? A ground attack ahead of air strikes? Yeah, no casualties involved with that approach.

And can someone tell me why everyone keeps saying Israel occupies all the land in the territory? Seems like 10/7 should have done away with that idea. To me, occupation means what the Germans did in France. I don't see Israel occupying shit hole Gaza. Why do people keep saying that? If Israel occupied Gaza, 10/7 doesn't happen.

I need some help here.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,380
    And, frankly, this is where the anti-neo con position that Trump and others tout gets challenged. Generally, yes, I agree, stop being the world's traffic cop.

    But this shit. If Iran has its way and Israel were to fall, which is THE goal, what the fuck is next?

    Honestly, the issue is that we pussy foot around over there. Go in and clean house and raze it to the ground Berlin style or just forget it.

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,380
    edited November 2023

    I don't think there is a lot of disagreement here. Maybe on funding. My position is that if the US and the west didn't give billions to Iran and Hamas Israel wouldn't need a dime. It would have been over

    Another major fuck up. Thanks Biden.

    I'm more concerned about how dumb the west is about this and seeing terrorist trash in OUR streets

    Go home and live in the 7th century and fuck off

    Preach. No shit. Look how quickly the liberal elite turn on Israel the moment they see someone brown who they perceive is being oppressed. It's like fucking clockwork. Tell them that 98% (probably more) of that population, outside of Hamas, views Israel's existence as a life mission and you get "but but war crimes! but but civilians!" GMAFB

    And these dumb smart kids at Harvard and Princeton - they want to protest and harass Jews but are flabbergasted when they get doxed and their names are named and CEOs of Investment Banks, who are decidedly patriotic because, you know, the country has been good to them, say "I'm not hiring you you Islamaterrorist loving POS".


    PS: sorry Bazey. @PurpleBaze
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,018 Founders Club
    Bazey is like most Iranian people in America. An Uber driver. I kid

    Iranians are great Americans.

    Carter sold them out.
  • PurpleBaze
    PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,569 Founders Club

    Bazey is like most Iranian people in America. An Uber driver. I kid

    Iranians are great Americans.

    Carter sold them out.

    Besides, as any Iranian will be quick to point out to you, they are Persian and have a long and proud history. Like Havana, Tehran was a fashionable place to be at one time.

    @PurpleBaze
    Can confirm.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,424 Founders Club

    And, frankly, this is where the anti-neo con position that Trump and others tout gets challenged. Generally, yes, I agree, stop being the world's traffic cop.

    But this shit. If Iran has its way and Israel were to fall, which is THE goal, what the fuck is next?

    Honestly, the issue is that we pussy foot around over there. Go in and clean house and raze it to the ground Berlin style or just forget it.

    The US sending billions every year is why Israel has pussy footed around for all these years.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,018 Founders Club
    Bob_C said:

    And, frankly, this is where the anti-neo con position that Trump and others tout gets challenged. Generally, yes, I agree, stop being the world's traffic cop.

    But this shit. If Iran has its way and Israel were to fall, which is THE goal, what the fuck is next?

    Honestly, the issue is that we pussy foot around over there. Go in and clean house and raze it to the ground Berlin style or just forget it.

    The US sending billions every year is why Israel has pussy footed around for all these years.
    Agree. The money always had strings

    No money for either side and Israel already has won

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,755 Standard Supporter
    The founders said "Musselman" are incompatible with our beliefs.

    It is a religion based on domination, rape and murder of anyone who is not one. World domination is ithe goal.
  • Blueduck
    Blueduck Member Posts: 1,710 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2023
    The writing is on the wall
    "mene, mene, tekel, parsin"
    539 BCE
    FTR It was a Persian named Cyrus who conquered Babylon and king Belshazzar and freed the Jews from Babylonian enslavement and even financed the rebuilding of Jerusalem Temple long before the Romans were a thing and destroyed Jerusalem in AD70 and renamed the land Palestina in an effort to erase Israel and the Jews from the land.