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Hardcore Husky Podcast: Paranoid, Bankrupt and 7-0

DerekJohnson
DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,374 Founders Club
edited October 2023 in Hardcore Husky Board
The boys dissect, joke, analyze and kvetch over UW's desultory win over ASU Saturday night. Washington somehow retained its #5 ranking in the AP poll. Credit to @LoneStarDawg for this week's episode title. @ThomasFremont is on the receiving end of AI Pup's wrath this week in the show's open.


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  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,260 Founders Club

    Thanks for the pod, pods.

    @DerekJohnson i think I called for DeBoor to be fired last week. First, right.

    I tend to agree with @JoeEDangerously , the tackling problem is more a result of inadequate talent on that side of ball. First & foremost, lack of speed, when a player can’t physically get into position, tackling is gonna be shit. Second, strength & conditioning. Slow, tired & weak, relative to competition.

    I also agree with me, pod
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,508
    My comment about DeBoer becoming a broadcaster because he's not having fun anymore was a joke and Petersen reference


    But yes, I'm also smoking crack
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    The play on the 2 pt conversion: isn't that what we ran successfully against Cal last year? And of course it was called genius on the TV call last year.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,099

    My comment about DeBoer becoming a broadcaster because he's not having fun anymore was a joke and Petersen reference


    But yes, I'm also smoking crack

    Crack is whack.
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter
    Thanks for answering my question, you hammerheads.

    Obviously I'm speaking from the prospective of a fan that was spooked by yesterday's results - while I've calmed down considerably and am not asking for DeBoer to be fired (shame on you @GrundleStiltzkin), I do think we? drop a game this season to Utah or the Beav as you suggested, Derek.

    Should such a thing come to pass, I will demand the immediate ban of @89ute or @BennyBeaver. They won't be in our? conference next year anyway.

    XXOO, and good pod, pods,

    DDJ
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,374 Founders Club

    My comment about DeBoer becoming a broadcaster because he's not having fun anymore was a joke and Petersen reference


    But yes, I'm also smoking crack

    I should have picked up on that.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    Tackling isn't really something you just teach. You can improve it but it's a talent in the same way that throwing accuracy is.

    Budda Baker is an elite tackler. His contract reflects that. You can't just teach what he does.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,374 Founders Club
    haie said:

    Tackling isn't really something you just teach. You can improve it but it's a talent in the same way that throwing accuracy is.

    Budda Baker is an elite tackler. His contract reflects that. You can't just teach what he does.

    Your first sentence is contradicted immediately by your second sentence.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club

    haie said:

    Tackling isn't really something you just teach. You can improve it but it's a talent in the same way that throwing accuracy is.

    Budda Baker is an elite tackler. His contract reflects that. You can't just teach what he does.

    Your first sentence is contradicted immediately by your second sentence.
    Okay.

    Nevermind.
  • 89ute
    89ute Member Posts: 2,485

    Thanks for answering my question, you hammerheads.

    Obviously I'm speaking from the prospective of a fan that was spooked by yesterday's results - while I've calmed down considerably and am not asking for DeBoer to be fired (shame on you @GrundleStiltzkin), I do think we? drop a game this season to Utah or the Beav as you suggested, Derek.

    Should such a thing come to pass, I will demand the immediate ban of @89ute or @BennyBeaver. They won't be in our? conference next year anyway.

    XXOO, and good pod, pods,

    DDJ

    Hurtful.

    Interestingly, our coach is emphatic that expansion is not over and this is not the end. This is interesting because he never speculates.
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter
    89ute said:

    Thanks for answering my question, you hammerheads.

    Obviously I'm speaking from the prospective of a fan that was spooked by yesterday's results - while I've calmed down considerably and am not asking for DeBoer to be fired (shame on you @GrundleStiltzkin), I do think we? drop a game this season to Utah or the Beav as you suggested, Derek.

    Should such a thing come to pass, I will demand the immediate ban of @89ute or @BennyBeaver. They won't be in our? conference next year anyway.

    XXOO, and good pod, pods,

    DDJ

    Hurtful.

    Interestingly, our coach is emphatic that expansion is not over and this is not the end. This is interesting because he never speculates.
    I was kidding of course. I could never quit you, @89ute.

    Yeah, I agree Whittingham. We’ll have another round of realignment at some point.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam

    haie said:

    Tackling isn't really something you just teach. You can improve it but it's a talent in the same way that throwing accuracy is.

    Budda Baker is an elite tackler. His contract reflects that. You can't just teach what he does.

    Your first sentence is contradicted immediately by your second sentence.
    Nah I think he's correct. Coaching can teach bad tacklers how to tackle in practice and how to make the easy ones...hitting guys who are held up, popping a guy pinned to the sidelines etc.

    You can't take a guy who just doesn't get it and expect him to ever be really good at it though. It's an instinctive process to cut off angles, break down properly so you're ready to launch but also able to go to either side, and time the hit. Muhammad has it, Baker, Gordon and McDuffie had it. Too many of the current DBs don't.

    I think that's kind of in line with what he was saying.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    chuck said:

    haie said:

    Tackling isn't really something you just teach. You can improve it but it's a talent in the same way that throwing accuracy is.

    Budda Baker is an elite tackler. His contract reflects that. You can't just teach what he does.

    Your first sentence is contradicted immediately by your second sentence.
    Nah I think he's correct. Coaching can teach bad tacklers how to tackle in practice and how to make the easy ones...hitting guys who are held up, popping a guy pinned to the sidelines etc.

    You can't take a guy who just doesn't get it and expect him to ever be really good at it though. It's an instinctive process to cut off angles, break down properly so you're ready to launch but also able to go to either side, and time the hit. Muhammad has it, Baker, Gordon and McDuffie had it. Too many of the current DBs don't.

    I think that's kind of in line with what he was saying.
    I cheered.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,720 Founders Club
    edited October 2023
    89ute said:

    Thanks for answering my question, you hammerheads.

    Obviously I'm speaking from the prospective of a fan that was spooked by yesterday's results - while I've calmed down considerably and am not asking for DeBoer to be fired (shame on you @GrundleStiltzkin), I do think we? drop a game this season to Utah or the Beav as you suggested, Derek.

    Should such a thing come to pass, I will demand the immediate ban of @89ute or @BennyBeaver. They won't be in our? conference next year anyway.

    XXOO, and good pod, pods,

    DDJ

    Hurtful.

    Interestingly, our coach is emphatic that expansion is not over and this is not the end. This is interesting because he never speculates.
    Dude, at my kid's soccer game I had to listen to my father in law go on about how this is all so corporatized that eventually we're going to see the Alabama Mighty Oregon Ducks.

    It's all just butthurt nonsense from the schools that didn't get into the B1G/SEC.

    There will be 2 power leagues, only 4-5 schools even have consideration to be added (huge spoiler here but Utah isn't one of them) and the rest of the conferences will just be seen a G5+ leagues that need a 1/0 loss team to get into whatever playoff format FOX and ESPN want. Nothing else will change.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,270 Founders Club

    89ute said:

    Thanks for answering my question, you hammerheads.

    Obviously I'm speaking from the prospective of a fan that was spooked by yesterday's results - while I've calmed down considerably and am not asking for DeBoer to be fired (shame on you @GrundleStiltzkin), I do think we? drop a game this season to Utah or the Beav as you suggested, Derek.

    Should such a thing come to pass, I will demand the immediate ban of @89ute or @BennyBeaver. They won't be in our? conference next year anyway.

    XXOO, and good pod, pods,

    DDJ

    Hurtful.

    Interestingly, our coach is emphatic that expansion is not over and this is not the end. This is interesting because he never speculates.
    I was kidding of course. I could never quit you, @89ute.

    Yeah, I agree Whittingham. We’ll have another round of realignment at some point.

    You can’t quit @89ute or you can’t quit his wives?
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,097 Founders Club

    89ute said:

    Thanks for answering my question, you hammerheads.

    Obviously I'm speaking from the prospective of a fan that was spooked by yesterday's results - while I've calmed down considerably and am not asking for DeBoer to be fired (shame on you @GrundleStiltzkin), I do think we? drop a game this season to Utah or the Beav as you suggested, Derek.

    Should such a thing come to pass, I will demand the immediate ban of @89ute or @BennyBeaver. They won't be in our? conference next year anyway.

    XXOO, and good pod, pods,

    DDJ

    Hurtful.

    Interestingly, our coach is emphatic that expansion is not over and this is not the end. This is interesting because he never speculates.
    I was kidding of course. I could never quit you, @89ute.

    Yeah, I agree Whittingham. We’ll have another round of realignment at some point.

    You can’t quit @89ute or you can’t quit his wives?
    I have a bad feeling the Utes are slowly building for another villain run to win the conference. I only take some solace in that in hopes that if it's Oregon they knock out.
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter

    89ute said:

    Thanks for answering my question, you hammerheads.

    Obviously I'm speaking from the prospective of a fan that was spooked by yesterday's results - while I've calmed down considerably and am not asking for DeBoer to be fired (shame on you @GrundleStiltzkin), I do think we? drop a game this season to Utah or the Beav as you suggested, Derek.

    Should such a thing come to pass, I will demand the immediate ban of @89ute or @BennyBeaver. They won't be in our? conference next year anyway.

    XXOO, and good pod, pods,

    DDJ

    Hurtful.

    Interestingly, our coach is emphatic that expansion is not over and this is not the end. This is interesting because he never speculates.
    I was kidding of course. I could never quit you, @89ute.

    Yeah, I agree Whittingham. We’ll have another round of realignment at some point.

    You can’t quit @89ute or you can’t quit his wives?
    Abundance.


  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter

    89ute said:

    Thanks for answering my question, you hammerheads.

    Obviously I'm speaking from the prospective of a fan that was spooked by yesterday's results - while I've calmed down considerably and am not asking for DeBoer to be fired (shame on you @GrundleStiltzkin), I do think we? drop a game this season to Utah or the Beav as you suggested, Derek.

    Should such a thing come to pass, I will demand the immediate ban of @89ute or @BennyBeaver. They won't be in our? conference next year anyway.

    XXOO, and good pod, pods,

    DDJ

    Hurtful.

    Interestingly, our coach is emphatic that expansion is not over and this is not the end. This is interesting because he never speculates.
    I was kidding of course. I could never quit you, @89ute.

    Yeah, I agree Whittingham. We’ll have another round of realignment at some point.

    You can’t quit @89ute or you can’t quit his wives?
    I have a bad feeling the Utes are slowly building for another villain run to win the conference. I only take some solace in that in hopes that if it's Oregon they knock out.
    More things change, the more they stay the same…


  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,270 Founders Club

    89ute said:

    Thanks for answering my question, you hammerheads.

    Obviously I'm speaking from the prospective of a fan that was spooked by yesterday's results - while I've calmed down considerably and am not asking for DeBoer to be fired (shame on you @GrundleStiltzkin), I do think we? drop a game this season to Utah or the Beav as you suggested, Derek.

    Should such a thing come to pass, I will demand the immediate ban of @89ute or @BennyBeaver. They won't be in our? conference next year anyway.

    XXOO, and good pod, pods,

    DDJ

    Hurtful.

    Interestingly, our coach is emphatic that expansion is not over and this is not the end. This is interesting because he never speculates.
    I was kidding of course. I could never quit you, @89ute.

    Yeah, I agree Whittingham. We’ll have another round of realignment at some point.

    You can’t quit @89ute or you can’t quit his wives?
    Abundance.


    Can’t say I blame you. The only reason I decided to attend this circle jerk (aside from my legal issues with the airlines clearing up) is the hope of seeing one or two or maybe all seven of @89ute’s wives in person.
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter

    89ute said:

    Thanks for answering my question, you hammerheads.

    Obviously I'm speaking from the prospective of a fan that was spooked by yesterday's results - while I've calmed down considerably and am not asking for DeBoer to be fired (shame on you @GrundleStiltzkin), I do think we? drop a game this season to Utah or the Beav as you suggested, Derek.

    Should such a thing come to pass, I will demand the immediate ban of @89ute or @BennyBeaver. They won't be in our? conference next year anyway.

    XXOO, and good pod, pods,

    DDJ

    Hurtful.

    Interestingly, our coach is emphatic that expansion is not over and this is not the end. This is interesting because he never speculates.
    I was kidding of course. I could never quit you, @89ute.

    Yeah, I agree Whittingham. We’ll have another round of realignment at some point.

    You can’t quit @89ute or you can’t quit his wives?
    Abundance.


    Can’t say I blame you. The only reason I decided to attend this circle jerk (aside from my legal issues with the airlines clearing up) is the hope of seeing one or two or maybe all seven of @89ute’s wives in person.
    His wives are like Pokémon…you gotta catch ‘em all.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,374 Founders Club
    chuck said:

    haie said:

    Tackling isn't really something you just teach. You can improve it but it's a talent in the same way that throwing accuracy is.

    Budda Baker is an elite tackler. His contract reflects that. You can't just teach what he does.

    Your first sentence is contradicted immediately by your second sentence.
    Nah I think he's correct. Coaching can teach bad tacklers how to tackle in practice and how to make the easy ones...hitting guys who are held up, popping a guy pinned to the sidelines etc.

    You can't take a guy who just doesn't get it and expect him to ever be really good at it though. It's an instinctive process to cut off angles, break down properly so you're ready to launch but also able to go to either side, and time the hit. Muhammad has it, Baker, Gordon and McDuffie had it. Too many of the current DBs don't.

    I think that's kind of in line with what he was saying.
    "My players are good enough if me and my coaches are good enough to teach them" - Chuck Knox
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,298
    One thing one of the coaches was talking about was the players made some bad choices about when to try to strip the ball vs when to wrap up. To me it seems crazy to have any emphasis on trying to pull the ball out because I'd rather just have good tackling all year over one or two random strips
  • WoolleyDoog
    WoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,097 Founders Club
    Canadawg said:

    One thing one of the coaches was talking about was the players made some bad choices about when to try to strip the ball vs when to wrap up. To me it seems crazy to have any emphasis on trying to pull the ball out because I'd rather just have good tackling all year over one or two random strips

    The worst example is in the grundles of Tuputala trying it early. The team is historically bad at sacks and causing fumbles this year. I think they haven't recovered a fumble all season and can barely even think of times they have caused them.
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,298

    Canadawg said:

    One thing one of the coaches was talking about was the players made some bad choices about when to try to strip the ball vs when to wrap up. To me it seems crazy to have any emphasis on trying to pull the ball out because I'd rather just have good tackling all year over one or two random strips

    The worst example is in the grundles of Tuputala trying it early. The team is historically bad at sacks and causing fumbles this year. I think they haven't recovered a fumble all season and can barely even think of times they have caused them.
    The play by Tuputala is exactly what was in my head as well
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    Wasn’t there a strip sack against Michigan State? Maybe I’m thinking of something else. Regardless, they are rarer than an accurate injury report from @bisonduck