Polk, Jmac, or both?
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I think more than 50% though I don't know shit. I wonder if he can/has desire to play LT or not because that could swing things given the starter next year will almost assuredly be a righty.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Wonder if Rosengarten comes back
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Polk, JMac, and Bernard would sure be a nice group to have for next year.
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We they leave we will get some badass portal WRs
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He should be back for at least one more year. He was good as a freshman but hasn't taken a huge step. I would be surprised if he suddenly gets a bunch of draft hype.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Wonder if Rosengarten comes back
The question for me is Fautanu. He's probably a day 2 pick, so there is at least a small chance he comes back and tries to work himself into the first round.
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Polk is my favorite player
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SonnyShackelford said:
Polk is my favorite player
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ISTMNRCBob_C said:
Just look at Seattle's 1st round Smith-Njigba. #21 pick got $7.5m upfront. 2nd round pick got $2m upfront. A 3rd rounder gets about $1m upfront. All have the same $750k base salary year one.dannarc said:If I was in their shoes, early 20's and have an opportunity to get paid very well playing college ball, I'm staying. The NFL's initial contract would be great but if you STAY and get paid, then tap into the NFL, it's a win-win. The only thing that might stand in the way is a really pathetic QB and injury, but under DeBoner, I would bank on a competent qb
NIL will prevent the 2nd and 3rd rounders from going pro but not the first rounders.
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Polk is a board favorite and rightfully so. He makes big play after big play. I personally underrated him prior to last season and again this offseason.SonnyShackelford said:Polk is my favorite player
As far as the tackles go, I don't think either comes back. I suspect NFL grades on them are probably not going to change much with another season. They're both vets with a ton of games on film.
My low budget opinions:
Fautanu is a low/mid round pick because most still believe he's a guard in the NFL. He's playing out of position and doing it well, because he's talented as hell for a college OL, but guards aren't first round picks.
Rosengarten will go a little higher than Fautanu. I know he doesn't get a ton of publicity but he's fucking good as a run and pass blocker and super athletic. When was the last time Penix got hit from behind? Ever? He's the best tackle at UW in a long time imo, better than McGary who has gotten pretty rich in the NFL. -
Both, and hopefully they get $1,000,000 eachPostGameOrangeSlices said:Me thinks one if not both of these guys are coming back next year do to our elite NIL for proven assets.
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I think Polk has until Jan. 15 to declare for the draft. The Winter transfer window ends Jan. 2, so if they're on the fence they can wait to see what QB portals in. I can't imagine the staff won't pursue someone, and I also can't imagine UW won't be attractive to portaling QBs. I'm optimistic Polk comes back to be WR1 for the first time.FireCohen said:If there was QB they think put numbers up, but all 3 are gone because of that uncertainty
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Polk has over 500 yards and has not dropped a pass so far this year (Rome dropped 2)
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I think you are looking atCatGut said:
I think Polk has until Jan. 15 to declare for the draft. The Winter transfer window ends Jan. 2, so if they're on the fence they can wait to see what QB portals in. I can't imagine the staff won't pursue someone, and I also can't imagine UW won't be attractive to portaling QBs. I'm optimistic Polk comes back to be WR1 for the first time.FireCohen said:If there was QB they think put numbers up, but all 3 are gone because of that uncertainty
Polk , McMillen and Giles/Bernard
With 1000 yard back in Dillon
Recruiting a qb from the portal with that talent
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I hope and think at least one of them will be back. Not worried though. Shepard somehow turned Giles Jackson into a McMillan light.
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Polk is gonzo. He's playing himself into the first round discussion. I don't think he comes back and takes the risk of playing with a different QB.
I think McMillan comes back at this point just because of the injuries but if he has a lights out last 6 or 7 games that could change. WRs in the NFL are a lot smaller on average than they were 6-8 years ago, the new rules have made it a lot easier for the little guys to succeed. McMillan will do really well in the modern NFL.
We aren't used to being a favorite in January. If this team hits its ceiling all of these guys are going to get a ton of attention. -
I kind of see it the opposite just on paper. Polk isn't a first rounder this year (probably late 2nd to 3rd), but he could be next year.dnc said:Polk is gonzo. He's playing himself into the first round discussion. I don't think he comes back and takes the risk of playing with a different QB.
I think McMillan comes back at this point just because of the injuries but if he has a lights out last 6 or 7 games that could change. WRs in the NFL are a lot smaller on average than they were 6-8 years ago, the new rules have made it a lot easier for the little guys to succeed. McMillan will do really well in the modern NFL.
We aren't used to being a favorite in January. If this team hits its ceiling all of these guys are going to get a ton of attention.
McMillan is probably capped out as a 3rd rounder just because he's almost exclusively a slot guy, this year or next year. He could do well in that role, but his first contract isn't going to be improved much if he comes back just because of what position he plays. In which case it makes some sense for him to go just to get a year closer to a second contract. His upside comp is probably someone like Tyler Boyd, who got like a 5 year $40m contract after his 4 year rookie deal, and will probably be on like 2 year deals the rest of his career. -
Being a #1 offense is also a shit load more eyeballs than being a #1 defense.dnc said:Polk is gonzo. He's playing himself into the first round discussion. I don't think he comes back and takes the risk of playing with a different QB.
I think McMillan comes back at this point just because of the injuries but if he has a lights out last 6 or 7 games that could change. WRs in the NFL are a lot smaller on average than they were 6-8 years ago, the new rules have made it a lot easier for the little guys to succeed. McMillan will do really well in the modern NFL.
We aren't used to being a favorite in January. If this team hits its ceiling all of these guys are going to get a ton of attention. -
Mel Kiper actually had Fautanu in his top 20 players today, so yeah, he's gone.
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Shocked by thatNorwegianHusky said:Mel Kiper actually had Fautanu in his top 20 players today, so yeah, he's gone.
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Isn’t the hawks 1st rounder a slot guy? He’s not doing shit for now but a nice pay check.Bob_C said:
I kind of see it the opposite just on paper. Polk isn't a first rounder this year (probably late 2nd to 3rd), but he could be next year.dnc said:Polk is gonzo. He's playing himself into the first round discussion. I don't think he comes back and takes the risk of playing with a different QB.
I think McMillan comes back at this point just because of the injuries but if he has a lights out last 6 or 7 games that could change. WRs in the NFL are a lot smaller on average than they were 6-8 years ago, the new rules have made it a lot easier for the little guys to succeed. McMillan will do really well in the modern NFL.
We aren't used to being a favorite in January. If this team hits its ceiling all of these guys are going to get a ton of attention.
McMillan is probably capped out as a 3rd rounder just because he's almost exclusively a slot guy, this year or next year. He could do well in that role, but his first contract isn't going to be improved much if he comes back just because of what position he plays. In which case it makes some sense for him to go just to get a year closer to a second contract. His upside comp is probably someone like Tyler Boyd, who got like a 5 year $40m contract after his 4 year rookie deal, and will probably be on like 2 year deals the rest of his career. -
TBF Kiper is a retard, and I think a lot of people give the O-line credit for the sack numbers when most of the credit should go to Penix.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Shocked by thatNorwegianHusky said:Mel Kiper actually had Fautanu in his top 20 players today, so yeah, he's gone.
Oregon got a ton of pressure from the edges and the reason Penix only got sacked once was because he threw the ball in the dirt so many times.
He was under 60% completion rate when he's been over 70% in every other game, and it was mainly for that reason.
So the O-line is a little overrated right now, but Fautanu has been already been getting second round buzz from others, so who knows.
And when I say overrated I don't mean bad. I was huge OL/Huff defender last year. They're good, not great, IMO. -
I thought our OL pass protected better last year. Penix has been hurried and hit more this year, but they are still good. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what my eyes tell me.NorwegianHusky said:
TBF Kiper is a retard, and I think a lot of people give the O-line credit for the sack numbers when most of the credit should go to Penix.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Shocked by thatNorwegianHusky said:Mel Kiper actually had Fautanu in his top 20 players today, so yeah, he's gone.
Oregon got a ton of pressure from the edges and the reason Penix only got sacked once was because he threw the ball in the dirt so many times.
He was under 60% completion rate when he's been over 70% in every other game, and it was mainly for that reason.
So the O-line is a little overrated right now, but Fautanu has been already been getting second round buzz from others, so who knows.
And when I say overrated I don't mean bad. I was huge OL/Huff defender last year. They're good, not great, IMO. -
Getting Buelow back will be huge. Dorlus really abused Hatchett’s lack of length.RoadDawg55 said:
I thought our OL pass protected better last year. Penix has been hurried and hit more this year, but they are still good. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what my eyes tell me.NorwegianHusky said:
TBF Kiper is a retard, and I think a lot of people give the O-line credit for the sack numbers when most of the credit should go to Penix.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Shocked by thatNorwegianHusky said:Mel Kiper actually had Fautanu in his top 20 players today, so yeah, he's gone.
Oregon got a ton of pressure from the edges and the reason Penix only got sacked once was because he threw the ball in the dirt so many times.
He was under 60% completion rate when he's been over 70% in every other game, and it was mainly for that reason.
So the O-line is a little overrated right now, but Fautanu has been already been getting second round buzz from others, so who knows.
And when I say overrated I don't mean bad. I was huge OL/Huff defender last year. They're good, not great, IMO. -
I've been debating this myself. I'm not sure. I think UCLA, Cal, OSU, Oregon and Texas all got some pressure on him last year. Still not a ton and nothing like a normal QB, but I'm not sure it was less than this year.RoadDawg55 said:
I thought our OL pass protected better last year. Penix has been hurried and hit more this year, but they are still good. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what my eyes tell me.NorwegianHusky said:
TBF Kiper is a retard, and I think a lot of people give the O-line credit for the sack numbers when most of the credit should go to Penix.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Shocked by thatNorwegianHusky said:Mel Kiper actually had Fautanu in his top 20 players today, so yeah, he's gone.
Oregon got a ton of pressure from the edges and the reason Penix only got sacked once was because he threw the ball in the dirt so many times.
He was under 60% completion rate when he's been over 70% in every other game, and it was mainly for that reason.
So the O-line is a little overrated right now, but Fautanu has been already been getting second round buzz from others, so who knows.
And when I say overrated I don't mean bad. I was huge OL/Huff defender last year. They're good, not great, IMO. -
UCLA and Latu were getting tons of itchuck said:
I've been debating this myself. I'm not sure. I think UCLA, Cal, OSU, Oregon and Texas all got some pressure on him last year. Still not a ton and nothing like a normal QB, but I'm not sure it was less than this year.RoadDawg55 said:
I thought our OL pass protected better last year. Penix has been hurried and hit more this year, but they are still good. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what my eyes tell me.NorwegianHusky said:
TBF Kiper is a retard, and I think a lot of people give the O-line credit for the sack numbers when most of the credit should go to Penix.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Shocked by thatNorwegianHusky said:Mel Kiper actually had Fautanu in his top 20 players today, so yeah, he's gone.
Oregon got a ton of pressure from the edges and the reason Penix only got sacked once was because he threw the ball in the dirt so many times.
He was under 60% completion rate when he's been over 70% in every other game, and it was mainly for that reason.
So the O-line is a little overrated right now, but Fautanu has been already been getting second round buzz from others, so who knows.
And when I say overrated I don't mean bad. I was huge OL/Huff defender last year. They're good, not great, IMO. -
Imagine if this team still had Latu. Would be unrealPostGameOrangeSlices said:
UCLA and Latu were getting tons of itchuck said:
I've been debating this myself. I'm not sure. I think UCLA, Cal, OSU, Oregon and Texas all got some pressure on him last year. Still not a ton and nothing like a normal QB, but I'm not sure it was less than this year.RoadDawg55 said:
I thought our OL pass protected better last year. Penix has been hurried and hit more this year, but they are still good. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what my eyes tell me.NorwegianHusky said:
TBF Kiper is a retard, and I think a lot of people give the O-line credit for the sack numbers when most of the credit should go to Penix.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Shocked by thatNorwegianHusky said:Mel Kiper actually had Fautanu in his top 20 players today, so yeah, he's gone.
Oregon got a ton of pressure from the edges and the reason Penix only got sacked once was because he threw the ball in the dirt so many times.
He was under 60% completion rate when he's been over 70% in every other game, and it was mainly for that reason.
So the O-line is a little overrated right now, but Fautanu has been already been getting second round buzz from others, so who knows.
And when I say overrated I don't mean bad. I was huge OL/Huff defender last year. They're good, not great, IMO. -
Because Geno Smith would rather throw to 3 nameless tight ends (sorry Will Dissly) than 3 elite WRs.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Isn’t the hawks 1st rounder a slot guy? He’s not doing shit for now but a nice pay check.Bob_C said:
I kind of see it the opposite just on paper. Polk isn't a first rounder this year (probably late 2nd to 3rd), but he could be next year.dnc said:Polk is gonzo. He's playing himself into the first round discussion. I don't think he comes back and takes the risk of playing with a different QB.
I think McMillan comes back at this point just because of the injuries but if he has a lights out last 6 or 7 games that could change. WRs in the NFL are a lot smaller on average than they were 6-8 years ago, the new rules have made it a lot easier for the little guys to succeed. McMillan will do really well in the modern NFL.
We aren't used to being a favorite in January. If this team hits its ceiling all of these guys are going to get a ton of attention.
McMillan is probably capped out as a 3rd rounder just because he's almost exclusively a slot guy, this year or next year. He could do well in that role, but his first contract isn't going to be improved much if he comes back just because of what position he plays. In which case it makes some sense for him to go just to get a year closer to a second contract. His upside comp is probably someone like Tyler Boyd, who got like a 5 year $40m contract after his 4 year rookie deal, and will probably be on like 2 year deals the rest of his career. -
OP stated McMillan/slot guy = 3rd round. My point was slots will go much higher if they are good.MelloDawg said:
Because Geno Smith would rather throw to 3 nameless tight ends (sorry Will Dissly) than 3 elite WRs.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Isn’t the hawks 1st rounder a slot guy? He’s not doing shit for now but a nice pay check.Bob_C said:
I kind of see it the opposite just on paper. Polk isn't a first rounder this year (probably late 2nd to 3rd), but he could be next year.dnc said:Polk is gonzo. He's playing himself into the first round discussion. I don't think he comes back and takes the risk of playing with a different QB.
I think McMillan comes back at this point just because of the injuries but if he has a lights out last 6 or 7 games that could change. WRs in the NFL are a lot smaller on average than they were 6-8 years ago, the new rules have made it a lot easier for the little guys to succeed. McMillan will do really well in the modern NFL.
We aren't used to being a favorite in January. If this team hits its ceiling all of these guys are going to get a ton of attention.
McMillan is probably capped out as a 3rd rounder just because he's almost exclusively a slot guy, this year or next year. He could do well in that role, but his first contract isn't going to be improved much if he comes back just because of what position he plays. In which case it makes some sense for him to go just to get a year closer to a second contract. His upside comp is probably someone like Tyler Boyd, who got like a 5 year $40m contract after his 4 year rookie deal, and will probably be on like 2 year deals the rest of his career. -
If they can play inside and outside yes. Lots of young receivers play inside to start. But they are drafted high to eventually play outside.dirtysouwfdawg said:
OP stated McMillan/slot guy = 3rd round. My point was slots will go much higher if they are good.MelloDawg said:
Because Geno Smith would rather throw to 3 nameless tight ends (sorry Will Dissly) than 3 elite WRs.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Isn’t the hawks 1st rounder a slot guy? He’s not doing shit for now but a nice pay check.Bob_C said:
I kind of see it the opposite just on paper. Polk isn't a first rounder this year (probably late 2nd to 3rd), but he could be next year.dnc said:Polk is gonzo. He's playing himself into the first round discussion. I don't think he comes back and takes the risk of playing with a different QB.
I think McMillan comes back at this point just because of the injuries but if he has a lights out last 6 or 7 games that could change. WRs in the NFL are a lot smaller on average than they were 6-8 years ago, the new rules have made it a lot easier for the little guys to succeed. McMillan will do really well in the modern NFL.
We aren't used to being a favorite in January. If this team hits its ceiling all of these guys are going to get a ton of attention.
McMillan is probably capped out as a 3rd rounder just because he's almost exclusively a slot guy, this year or next year. He could do well in that role, but his first contract isn't going to be improved much if he comes back just because of what position he plays. In which case it makes some sense for him to go just to get a year closer to a second contract. His upside comp is probably someone like Tyler Boyd, who got like a 5 year $40m contract after his 4 year rookie deal, and will probably be on like 2 year deals the rest of his career. -
Hence “exclusively”… ok, I rest.Bob_C said:
If they can play inside and outside yes. Lots of young receivers play inside to start. But they are drafted high to eventually play outside.dirtysouwfdawg said:
OP stated McMillan/slot guy = 3rd round. My point was slots will go much higher if they are good.MelloDawg said:
Because Geno Smith would rather throw to 3 nameless tight ends (sorry Will Dissly) than 3 elite WRs.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Isn’t the hawks 1st rounder a slot guy? He’s not doing shit for now but a nice pay check.Bob_C said:
I kind of see it the opposite just on paper. Polk isn't a first rounder this year (probably late 2nd to 3rd), but he could be next year.dnc said:Polk is gonzo. He's playing himself into the first round discussion. I don't think he comes back and takes the risk of playing with a different QB.
I think McMillan comes back at this point just because of the injuries but if he has a lights out last 6 or 7 games that could change. WRs in the NFL are a lot smaller on average than they were 6-8 years ago, the new rules have made it a lot easier for the little guys to succeed. McMillan will do really well in the modern NFL.
We aren't used to being a favorite in January. If this team hits its ceiling all of these guys are going to get a ton of attention.
McMillan is probably capped out as a 3rd rounder just because he's almost exclusively a slot guy, this year or next year. He could do well in that role, but his first contract isn't going to be improved much if he comes back just because of what position he plays. In which case it makes some sense for him to go just to get a year closer to a second contract. His upside comp is probably someone like Tyler Boyd, who got like a 5 year $40m contract after his 4 year rookie deal, and will probably be on like 2 year deals the rest of his career. -
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