Deboer rumor, Deion & other notes
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I could see morris going somewhere with grub.TheHB said:DeBoer is a QB whisperer. He won’t settle for Morris the Mediocre.
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Exactly. Get an upperclassman, one year rental who can learn the offense quickly and who doesn't have any limitations. They exist.AtomicDawg said:
There will be plenty of talent in the portal at qb. Coaches will leave etc and qb's will want to play here. Go get someone. Hopefully a grad transfer Sam Hartman type that can come in and have an immediate impact.Canadawg said:I'll make it simple
Deboer has Penix at Indiana. Penix is good
Deboer has Haener at Fresno. Haener is good
Deboer has Penix at UW. Penix is good
Deboer has ______ at UW. ______ is good
Haener was probably worse than DMO when he left and everyone was crying for him to come back with Deboer so I'm going to LIPO on DMO. Definitely not opposed to bringing in someone I just feel like the floor is pretty high -
This board was jonesing for haener when old Kalen came over.
He would definitely portal in a stud imo. Penix is good because he’s big. A little 5’11” guy is not making those throws.
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As a GA maybeAtomicDawg said:
I could see morris going somewhere with grub.TheHB said:DeBoer is a QB whisperer. He won’t settle for Morris the Mediocre.
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Penix isn't that big, he's listed at 6'3" but he's more like 6'2" and probably around 205 lbs.Kingdome_Urinals said:This board was jonesing for haener when old Kalen came over.
He would definitely portal in a stud imo. Penix is good because he’s big. A little 5’11” guy is not making those throws.
The vertical aspect is everything for this offense.
Morris has a pretty big arm but what makes Penix deadly besides his is his pinpoint accuracy and decision-making.
I'm surprised people are sleeping on Austin Return of The Mack. It's not unheard of for a RS-Frosh to step in and do very well if surrounded by a veteran coaching staff and offense.
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Morris needs forward momentum to push it down field, and his accuracy limit has been about 40 air yards. Penix has a completely different kind of arm. There isn't a spot on the field within 60 yards from the LOS that he can't get the ball to with authority. He flicks it 50 yards on a line from his back foot. This is crucial to why people run open all the time. It's impossible to defend that much field well but they have to on every play. It's a different offense with an arm like that than it is with a Morris.HFNY said:
Penix isn't that big, he's listed at 6'3" but he's more like 6'2" and probably around 205 lbs.Kingdome_Urinals said:This board was jonesing for haener when old Kalen came over.
He would definitely portal in a stud imo. Penix is good because he’s big. A little 5’11” guy is not making those throws.
The vertical aspect is everything for this offense.
Morris has a pretty big arm but what makes Penix deadly besides his is his pinpoint accuracy and decision-making.
I'm surprised people are sleeping on Austin Return of The Mack. It's not unheard of for a RS-Frosh to step in and do very well if surrounded by a veteran coaching staff and offense. -
After a brief walk I've decided not to die on the hill of DMO. I will however not be freaking out if he needs to play meaningful snaps over the next couple seasons assuming Bama doesn't lure him away
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Morris is ok and I bet he's a hell of a lot better now than he was a year ago. I think he's good enough for this to be a good. That's just a lower ceiling than a guy with exceptional ability where the offense appears to be a juggernaut. It sure seems like a guy like Deboer should always be able to get the exceptional ones.Canadawg said:After a brief walk I've decided not to die on the hill of DMO. I will however not be freaking out if he needs to play meaningful snaps over the next couple seasons assuming Bama doesn't lure him away
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There are worse things in the world than DeBoer and Co. paying good NIL money to a very proven QB to compete with Mack.chuck said:
Morris is ok and I bet he's a hell of a lot better now than he was a year ago. I think he's good enough for this to be a good. That's just a lower ceiling than a guy with exceptional ability where the offense appears to be a juggernaut. It sure seems like a guy like Deboer should always be able to get the exceptional ones.Canadawg said:After a brief walk I've decided not to die on the hill of DMO. I will however not be freaking out if he needs to play meaningful snaps over the next couple seasons assuming Bama doesn't lure him away
They also need a proven pass-rusher and a LB to address holes in the roster (a dearth of upperclassmen at pass-rusher after Trice and ZTF leave). -
Morris was a 4 star. Don’t sleep on Dmo. He has shown excellent accuracy on his limited throws. His first td of the year he hit the TE in perfect stride. Literally perfect pass. Queves I believe. Had excellent throws against sparty as well.
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Penix is definitely a big guy, he's not 6'5" but he is sturdily built and obviously strong. He really drives the ball and he can see the field well.HFNY said:
Penix isn't that big, he's listed at 6'3" but he's more like 6'2" and probably around 205 lbs.Kingdome_Urinals said:This board was jonesing for haener when old Kalen came over.
He would definitely portal in a stud imo. Penix is good because he’s big. A little 5’11” guy is not making those throws.
The vertical aspect is everything for this offense.
Morris has a pretty big arm but what makes Penix deadly besides his is his pinpoint accuracy and decision-making.
I'm surprised people are sleeping on Austin Return of The Mack. It's not unheard of for a RS-Frosh to step in and do very well if surrounded by a veteran coaching staff and offense.
These little guys can't see over the line sometimes and try to escape the pocket because they lose track of what's going one downfield.
Penix's size and strength are part of how he plays the game.
DeBoer is probably not starting a 5'11 guy.
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If a proven QB wants to come to UW, we will take him. This is big boy football. I don’t think it’s impossible that Morris starts, but this is an attractive offense for any transfer QB.fivehundredmileDAWG said:D Mo will likely be our starting QB at the beginning of next season … does that sustain itself through the season …?… only time will tell.
This is not loser talk etc., it is simply the most likely path to success. Do we win ten games with D Mo as starting QB ? Probably not … but I doubt we would win 7 or more with 18 year old Mack or the portal from SDSU. If Morris isn’t thriving by game three he is on the bench and we then pivot and take our lumps with the younger guy(sm).
LIPO
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Georgia also had one of the greatest defenses ever assembled.Canadawg said:Stetson Bennett won two (2) national championships
I would be happy to have a higher ceiling than Dmo but he is very capable of winning every game on their schedule next year
UW's 2024 defense will be hard pressed to be as good as this year's UW defense. They aren't sniffing 2021-22 UGA.
The biggest advantage this program has is it's ability to develop QB's. When you can do that you find a Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray, you don't settle for Stetson Bennett. -
Defence aspect is true but I am now curious if Deboer will have a decent D going forwarddnc said:
Georgia also had one of the greatest defenses ever assembled.Canadawg said:Stetson Bennett won two (2) national championships
I would be happy to have a higher ceiling than Dmo but he is very capable of winning every game on their schedule next year
UW's 2024 defense will be hard pressed to be as good as this year's UW defense. They aren't sniffing 2021-22 UGA.
The biggest advantage this program has is it's ability to develop QB's. When you can do that you find a Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray, you don't settle for Stetson Bennett. -
Evidence suggests he willCanadawg said:
Defence aspect is true but I am now curious if Deboer will have a decent D going forwarddnc said:
Georgia also had one of the greatest defenses ever assembled.Canadawg said:Stetson Bennett won two (2) national championships
I would be happy to have a higher ceiling than Dmo but he is very capable of winning every game on their schedule next year
UW's 2024 defense will be hard pressed to be as good as this year's UW defense. They aren't sniffing 2021-22 UGA.
The biggest advantage this program has is it's ability to develop QB's. When you can do that you find a Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray, you don't settle for Stetson Bennett.
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I'm cautiously optmistic.Canadawg said:
Defence aspect is true but I am now curious if Deboer will have a decent D going forwarddnc said:
Georgia also had one of the greatest defenses ever assembled.Canadawg said:Stetson Bennett won two (2) national championships
I would be happy to have a higher ceiling than Dmo but he is very capable of winning every game on their schedule next year
UW's 2024 defense will be hard pressed to be as good as this year's UW defense. They aren't sniffing 2021-22 UGA.
The biggest advantage this program has is it's ability to develop QB's. When you can do that you find a Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray, you don't settle for Stetson Bennett.
Unless DeBoer suddenly starts recruiting at a super high level we?re going to need star level QBs moving forward though.
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I’d really like to see a RB because we don’t know what Cam will look like and though early returns are very encouraging we’re still not sure what tybo is or isn’t. Tuli and the other guy that’s two people in one are seniors so a difference making DT. The guys behind are showing promise but not sure if any are ready to be the guy(s).HFNY said:
There are worse things in the world than DeBoer and Co. paying good NIL money to a very proven QB to compete with Mack.chuck said:
Morris is ok and I bet he's a hell of a lot better now than he was a year ago. I think he's good enough for this to be a good. That's just a lower ceiling than a guy with exceptional ability where the offense appears to be a juggernaut. It sure seems like a guy like Deboer should always be able to get the exceptional ones.Canadawg said:After a brief walk I've decided not to die on the hill of DMO. I will however not be freaking out if he needs to play meaningful snaps over the next couple seasons assuming Bama doesn't lure him away
They also need a proven pass-rusher and a LB to address holes in the roster (a dearth of upperclassmen at pass-rusher after Trice and ZTF leave).
We need a safety or two… maybe finally get Adams to switch to a position he actually has a potential future in.
So for those keeping score at home @HFNY and I have decided that deboner is going to get a qb, de, lb, rb, dt, and s in the portal. -
I’d be concerned if next years D didn’t progress because next years O will definitely digress.dnc said:
Georgia also had one of the greatest defenses ever assembled.Canadawg said:Stetson Bennett won two (2) national championships
I would be happy to have a higher ceiling than Dmo but he is very capable of winning every game on their schedule next year
UW's 2024 defense will be hard pressed to be as good as this year's UW defense. They aren't sniffing 2021-22 UGA.
The biggest advantage this program has is it's ability to develop QB's. When you can do that you find a Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray, you don't settle for Stetson Bennett.
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Aren't some of the best Olinemen young? Tybo, Cuevas, Boston ect. Im not sure the talent is worse next year just less knowndirtysouwfdawg said:
I’d be concerned if next years D didn’t progress because next years O will definitely digress.dnc said:
Georgia also had one of the greatest defenses ever assembled.Canadawg said:Stetson Bennett won two (2) national championships
I would be happy to have a higher ceiling than Dmo but he is very capable of winning every game on their schedule next year
UW's 2024 defense will be hard pressed to be as good as this year's UW defense. They aren't sniffing 2021-22 UGA.
The biggest advantage this program has is it's ability to develop QB's. When you can do that you find a Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray, you don't settle for Stetson Bennett.
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UW is losing two of the best tackles ever. That's going to be the big concern after QB. No matter what it's not going to be a new QB playing behind an OL that isn't as goodz at least on the outside.Canadawg said:
Aren't some of the best Olinemen young? Tybo, Cuevas, Boston ect. Im not sure the talent is worse next year just less knowndirtysouwfdawg said:
I’d be concerned if next years D didn’t progress because next years O will definitely digress.dnc said:
Georgia also had one of the greatest defenses ever assembled.Canadawg said:Stetson Bennett won two (2) national championships
I would be happy to have a higher ceiling than Dmo but he is very capable of winning every game on their schedule next year
UW's 2024 defense will be hard pressed to be as good as this year's UW defense. They aren't sniffing 2021-22 UGA.
The biggest advantage this program has is it's ability to develop QB's. When you can do that you find a Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray, you don't settle for Stetson Bennett.
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I find it amusing that some individuals in here think an opinion has to necessarily mean war with those at some portion of the opposite end of said opinion.
I’d be happy to be wrong. It appears to me D Mo has improved and understands the system in the snippets we have seen him. Is he a big time QB? For Christ sakes no! Might he be the best option for the beginning of next season (read first two to four games up to midway) … from what I see it is a very likely possibility - probably the most likely possibility from my perspective.
I’d be happy to see us portal in a senior to battle with Morris. I think Morris would likely still have the edge over a senior portal or Mack at that point. Or the guy who transferred in from SDSU.
Do I think Mack is the future?
Yes … 2025 and beyond … though I’d be happy to be wrong and have him as the starter in 2024 if he’s ready.
LIPO
We all want the same thing. To win, and win as much as possible. -
Can we wait to have the in depth 2024 will be special talk until at least the bye week?
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fivehundredmileDAWG said:
I find it amusing that some individuals in here think an opinion has to necessarily mean war with those at some portion of the opposite end of said opinion.
I’d be happy to be wrong. It appears to me D Mo has improved and understands the system in the snippets we have seen him. Is he a big time QB? For Christ sakes no! Might he be the best option for the beginning of next season (read first two to four games up to midway) … from what I see it is a very likely possibility - probably the most likely possibility from my perspective.
I’d be happy to see us portal in a senior to battle with Morris. I think Morris would likely still have the edge over a senior portal or Mack at that point. Or the guy who transferred in from SDSU.
Do I think Mack is the future?
Yes … 2025 and beyond … though I’d be happy to be wrong and have him as the starter in 2024 if he’s ready.
LIPO
We all want the same thing. To win, and win as much as possible.
You're not knew here
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No .. and I don’t spend a lot of time in here because I have a life.
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I love everybody as long as they agree with everything I say. Otherwise diaff. This is HH man!fivehundredmileDAWG said:I find it amusing that some individuals in here think an opinion has to necessarily mean war with those at some portion of the opposite end of said opinion.
I’d be happy to be wrong. It appears to me D Mo has improved and understands the system in the snippets we have seen him. Is he a big time QB? For Christ sakes no! Might he be the best option for the beginning of next season (read first two to four games up to midway) … from what I see it is a very likely possibility - probably the most likely possibility from my perspective.
I’d be happy to see us portal in a senior to battle with Morris. I think Morris would likely still have the edge over a senior portal or Mack at that point. Or the guy who transferred in from SDSU.
Do I think Mack is the future?
Yes … 2025 and beyond … though I’d be happy to be wrong and have him as the starter in 2024 if he’s ready.
LIPO
We all want the same thing. To win, and win as much as possible. -
My condolencesfivehundredmileDAWG said:No .. and I don’t spend a lot of time in here because I have a life.
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Awfully warm for SEPTEMBER. Some of you assuming we?ve already played the gaymes
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Superior culture and the desert loom largeBaseman said:Awfully warm for SEPTEMBER. Some of you assuming we?ve already played the gaymes
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Well you're losing Penix and the top WRs (Polk is going to the draft too I hope everyone realizes) and the tackles. It's definitely taking a step back. I like the guys we have coming up but they'll have much less experience and I don't think we'll have the depth next year.Canadawg said:
Aren't some of the best Olinemen young? Tybo, Cuevas, Boston ect. Im not sure the talent is worse next year just less knowndirtysouwfdawg said:
I’d be concerned if next years D didn’t progress because next years O will definitely digress.dnc said:
Georgia also had one of the greatest defenses ever assembled.Canadawg said:Stetson Bennett won two (2) national championships
I would be happy to have a higher ceiling than Dmo but he is very capable of winning every game on their schedule next year
UW's 2024 defense will be hard pressed to be as good as this year's UW defense. They aren't sniffing 2021-22 UGA.
The biggest advantage this program has is it's ability to develop QB's. When you can do that you find a Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray, you don't settle for Stetson Bennett.
Portal.
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You're losing the edges, possibly Muhammad, probably Ulo and still need someone to step up at safety. It's probably taking a small step back.dirtysouwfdawg said:
I’d be concerned if next years D didn’t progress because next years O will definitely digress.dnc said:
Georgia also had one of the greatest defenses ever assembled.Canadawg said:Stetson Bennett won two (2) national championships
I would be happy to have a higher ceiling than Dmo but he is very capable of winning every game on their schedule next year
UW's 2024 defense will be hard pressed to be as good as this year's UW defense. They aren't sniffing 2021-22 UGA.
The biggest advantage this program has is it's ability to develop QB's. When you can do that you find a Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray, you don't settle for Stetson Bennett.
Portal.
