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what im hearing re: p12 network/tv contract/boofs bouncin
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wilner typed this:
“No brand in the Group of Five has the value of the Pac-12 brand,” the industry source said. “If you have the brand, you own the history.”
his 'sources' fucking suck. the 'brand' of the pac-12 is fucking dead. the 'history' is with the teams that have bailed. walton isnt going to be able to say 'conference of champions' anymore, all those titles left town.
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I think there’s a ton of value in being 2 of the worst programs in PAC-2 history.rodmansrage said:wilner typed this:
“No brand in the Group of Five has the value of the Pac-12 brand,” the industry source said. “If you have the brand, you own the history.”
his 'sources' fucking suck. the 'brand' of the pac-12 is fucking dead. the 'history' is with the teams that have bailed. walton isnt going to be able to say 'conference of champions' anymore, all those titles left town.
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Long live linear TV!!!whatshouldicareabout said:
Just shows how powerful and important a linear TV deal is with a major networkEwaDawg said:
How in the fuck will Cal (still too high) survive for the next 7 years? The 30 % can't even be $10 M (wasn't that the amount thrown around as additional travel costs by Jen?). And their stadium debt is MUCH WORSE than ours. (UCLA subsidy, much?)whatshouldicareabout said:
Lifeboats are getting pricey but at least everyone got oneGrundleStiltzkin said:
Also, kind of amusing that SMU won't get any $$ until year 10. Holy fuck all. -
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FSU, unc and Clemson are going to absolutely love this. This is a horrible idea.rodmansrage said:
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NC St. flipped specifically to fuck those schools especially North Carolina.AtomicDawg said:
FSU, unc and Clemson are going to absolutely love this. This is a horrible idea.rodmansrage said:
Lmaooooooooooo, see y’all in Dallas!
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Seriously though is Cal counting on Calimony from UCLA to keep their athletic dept funded? There is no way they can afford that revenue number without cutting sports or tons of booster money.
Notre Dame is the most interesting since they voted yes for this. ND still treated like a top brand and isn’t killed by the ACC money like the rest of them.
But in some number of years FSU, Clemson, UNC and Miami are not going to be in that conference. Is ND going to want to be part of the remnants for their conference association? Especially if the football playoff ends up being run by B1G and SEC. -
I can't wait to see UW face Rutgers and Maryland in Lincoln, NErodmansrage said:
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I'd love to be able to see the collective faces when it dawns on the brain trust at Cal that there's no money left for women's softball.whlinder said:Seriously though is Cal counting on Calimony from UCLA to keep their athletic dept funded? There is no way they can afford that revenue number without cutting sports or tons of booster money.
Notre Dame is the most interesting since they voted yes for this. ND still treated like a top brand and isn’t killed by the ACC money like the rest of them.
But in some number of years FSU, Clemson, UNC and Miami are not going to be in that conference. Is ND going to want to be part of the remnants for their conference association? Especially if the football playoff ends up being run by B1G and SEC. -
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It seems like the best (crappy) option for OSU and WSU since it does not look like a Big-12 offer is coming. Ultimately, the P5 status would be gone, and any new media deal would much more closely resemble what the MWC currently has, but they'd have a full conference with a reasonable geographic region. This also probably puts them in a much stronger position to try to keep more of the Pac money and network assets than if OSU and WSU were to leave the Pac and join the MWC. If OSU and WSU are completely resigned to the idea that they are no longer going to be power conference teams, isn't this the best move they can make?GrundleStiltzkin said: -
I thought Wazzu and OSU could go independent for a bit and have a scheduling alliance with the MWC like ND does with the ACC.Arc said:
It seems like the best (crappy) option for OSU and WSU since it does not look like a Big-12 offer is coming. Ultimately, the P5 status would be gone, and any new media deal would much more closely resemble what the MWC currently has, but they'd have a full conference with a reasonable geographic region. This also probably puts them in a much stronger position to try to keep more of the Pac money and network assets than if OSU and WSU were to leave the Pac and join the MWC. If OSU and WSU are completely resigned to the idea that they are no longer going to be power conference teams, isn't this the best move they can make?GrundleStiltzkin said: -
Yeah, but what would their TV deal look like for the 2024 season? I guess that could be a decent option if they can figure out the media side of things since it might make it easier for them to move to a better conference the next time conferences reshuffle.whatshouldicareabout said:
I thought Wazzu and OSU could go independent for a bit and have a scheduling alliance with the MWC like ND does with the ACC.Arc said:
It seems like the best (crappy) option for OSU and WSU since it does not look like a Big-12 offer is coming. Ultimately, the P5 status would be gone, and any new media deal would much more closely resemble what the MWC currently has, but they'd have a full conference with a reasonable geographic region. This also probably puts them in a much stronger position to try to keep more of the Pac money and network assets than if OSU and WSU were to leave the Pac and join the MWC. If OSU and WSU are completely resigned to the idea that they are no longer going to be power conference teams, isn't this the best move they can make?GrundleStiltzkin said:
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Under this scenario, I imagine they keep most of the assets of the Pac-12 network and use it to compensate for whatever dimes and nickels ESPN or FOX hands outArc said:
Yeah, but what would their TV deal look like for the 2024 season? I guess that could be a decent option if they can figure out the media side of things since it might make it easier for them to move to a better conference the next time conferences reshuffle.whatshouldicareabout said:
I thought Wazzu and OSU could go independent for a bit and have a scheduling alliance with the MWC like ND does with the ACC.Arc said:
It seems like the best (crappy) option for OSU and WSU since it does not look like a Big-12 offer is coming. Ultimately, the P5 status would be gone, and any new media deal would much more closely resemble what the MWC currently has, but they'd have a full conference with a reasonable geographic region. This also probably puts them in a much stronger position to try to keep more of the Pac money and network assets than if OSU and WSU were to leave the Pac and join the MWC. If OSU and WSU are completely resigned to the idea that they are no longer going to be power conference teams, isn't this the best move they can make?GrundleStiltzkin said: -
So we’re talking about taking a shit conference, adding 2 pac teams and then calling it the pac?
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If the best 8 teams from the MW joined OSU and WSU it would at least be the 5th best conference
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cewg and beavlit legit have a better chance making the playoff in that conference than they did in the PACCanadawg said:If the best 8 teams from the MW joined OSU and WSU it would at least be the 5th best conference
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Agreed. It's a scrappy little conference who should get an auto entry in the playoffs, at the start at least. I doubt it works out for very long as the separation between the haves and have nots is going to grow wider than ever.Canadawg said:If the best 8 teams from the MW joined OSU and WSU it would at least be the 5th best conference
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Agreed but it's not binary. In 5 years from now they could be in competition for being the 3rd best conference if the ACC implodes and they make up some ground on the B12. Things changechuck said:
Agreed. It's a scrappy little conference who should get an auto entry in the playoffs, at the start at least. I doubt it works out for very long as the separation between the haves and have nots is going to grow wider than ever.Canadawg said:If the best 8 teams from the MW joined OSU and WSU it would at least be the 5th best conference
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What assets?whatshouldicareabout said:
Under this scenario, I imagine they keep most of the assets of the Pac-12 network and use it to compensate for whatever dimes and nickels ESPN or FOX hands outArc said:
Yeah, but what would their TV deal look like for the 2024 season? I guess that could be a decent option if they can figure out the media side of things since it might make it easier for them to move to a better conference the next time conferences reshuffle.whatshouldicareabout said:
I thought Wazzu and OSU could go independent for a bit and have a scheduling alliance with the MWC like ND does with the ACC.Arc said:
It seems like the best (crappy) option for OSU and WSU since it does not look like a Big-12 offer is coming. Ultimately, the P5 status would be gone, and any new media deal would much more closely resemble what the MWC currently has, but they'd have a full conference with a reasonable geographic region. This also probably puts them in a much stronger position to try to keep more of the Pac money and network assets than if OSU and WSU were to leave the Pac and join the MWC. If OSU and WSU are completely resigned to the idea that they are no longer going to be power conference teams, isn't this the best move they can make?GrundleStiltzkin said:
The Network is basically a room, some cameras, Ashley Adamson, Yogi, and Michael Bumpus. A contract where you actually owe your customer 50 million.
Compare the Pac 12 Postgame show from 2016 to now.
It's all ashes.
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@rodmansrage what is the valuation for the pac12 network?haie said:
What assets?whatshouldicareabout said:
Under this scenario, I imagine they keep most of the assets of the Pac-12 network and use it to compensate for whatever dimes and nickels ESPN or FOX hands outArc said:
Yeah, but what would their TV deal look like for the 2024 season? I guess that could be a decent option if they can figure out the media side of things since it might make it easier for them to move to a better conference the next time conferences reshuffle.whatshouldicareabout said:
I thought Wazzu and OSU could go independent for a bit and have a scheduling alliance with the MWC like ND does with the ACC.Arc said:
It seems like the best (crappy) option for OSU and WSU since it does not look like a Big-12 offer is coming. Ultimately, the P5 status would be gone, and any new media deal would much more closely resemble what the MWC currently has, but they'd have a full conference with a reasonable geographic region. This also probably puts them in a much stronger position to try to keep more of the Pac money and network assets than if OSU and WSU were to leave the Pac and join the MWC. If OSU and WSU are completely resigned to the idea that they are no longer going to be power conference teams, isn't this the best move they can make?GrundleStiltzkin said:
The Network is basically a room, some cameras, Ashley Adamson, Yogi, and Michael Bumpus. A contract where you actually owe your customer 50 million.
Compare the Pac 12 Postgame show from 2016 to now.
It's all ashes. -
I believe I read $46 million in assets.
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last i heard it was around 10bn.............in zimbabwean dollars, its absolute dogshit.whatshouldicareabout said:
@rodmansrage what is the valuation for the pac12 network?haie said:
What assets?whatshouldicareabout said:
Under this scenario, I imagine they keep most of the assets of the Pac-12 network and use it to compensate for whatever dimes and nickels ESPN or FOX hands outArc said:
Yeah, but what would their TV deal look like for the 2024 season? I guess that could be a decent option if they can figure out the media side of things since it might make it easier for them to move to a better conference the next time conferences reshuffle.whatshouldicareabout said:
I thought Wazzu and OSU could go independent for a bit and have a scheduling alliance with the MWC like ND does with the ACC.Arc said:
It seems like the best (crappy) option for OSU and WSU since it does not look like a Big-12 offer is coming. Ultimately, the P5 status would be gone, and any new media deal would much more closely resemble what the MWC currently has, but they'd have a full conference with a reasonable geographic region. This also probably puts them in a much stronger position to try to keep more of the Pac money and network assets than if OSU and WSU were to leave the Pac and join the MWC. If OSU and WSU are completely resigned to the idea that they are no longer going to be power conference teams, isn't this the best move they can make?GrundleStiltzkin said:
The Network is basically a room, some cameras, Ashley Adamson, Yogi, and Michael Bumpus. A contract where you actually owe your customer 50 million.
Compare the Pac 12 Postgame show from 2016 to now.
It's all ashes.
the tv cameras? who knows what those are on the books for but, media is in the fuckin shitter right now, probably not high demand.
complete side note, and to pile on for how shitty that p12 deal really was, apple requires you to produce your own games. so mls, mlb, they produce the games. producing games costs money, so that paltry payout would have been worse once you subtract production costs. -
if the ACC commish truly believes that shit about Shaw…..
Sike, ACC already fucked. -
Acc has sucked for year. They are lucky that Clemson and FSU kept them relevantrodmansrage said:
if the ACC commish truly believes that shit about Shaw…..
Sike, ACC already fucked. -
Dabo - “it’s hard”. He’s done.FireCohen said:
Acc has sucked for year. They are lucky that Clemson and FSU kept them relevantrodmansrage said:
if the ACC commish truly believes that shit about Shaw…..
Sike, ACC already fucked.
Talked with a business owners the other day and instantly started talking college football. I mentioned my infatuation with the dawgs and how peterman said it was hard and then quit shortly after and how Dabo said it and how I think the games passed him by. Didn’t sit well with this guy as he apparently talks to Dabo frequently, or so he says. For those of you thinking I should’ve read the room or not fast played that I honestly don’t GAF. I’m fast twitch when it comes to sales. My AE on the other hand turned shades of red. Putting a $250k contract down on this guys table tomorrow. We’ll see how bad I offended him.
CSB. -
That's an interesting closing technique. I will write that one down.dirtysouwfdawg said:
Dabo - “it’s hard”. He’s done.FireCohen said:
Acc has sucked for year. They are lucky that Clemson and FSU kept them relevantrodmansrage said:
if the ACC commish truly believes that shit about Shaw…..
Sike, ACC already fucked.
Talked with a business owners the other day and instantly started talking college football. I mentioned my infatuation with the dawgs and how peterman said it was hard and then quit shortly after and how Dabo said it and how I think the games passed him by. Didn’t sit well with this guy as he apparently talks to Dabo frequently, or so he says. For those of you thinking I should’ve read the room or not fast played that I honestly don’t GAF. I’m fast twitch when it comes to sales. My AE on the other hand turned shades of red. Putting a $250k contract down on this guys table tomorrow. We’ll see how bad I offended him.
CSB.
