Anger grows as FEMA workers stay in luxury hotels amid the Maui Wildfires disaster


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Hahahaha
They actually booked the Grand Wailea and Fairmont?
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They're just supporting the local economy, is what I'm hearing.thechatch said:Hahahaha
They actually booked the Grand Wailea and Fairmont?
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If they pay the government rate--which is FEMA's claim--who cares?
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MustHHusky said:If they pay the government rate--which is FEMA's claim--who cares?
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This is a joke, right?HHusky said:If they pay the government rate--which is FEMA's claim--who cares?
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Race finds the question too difficult.RaceBannon said:
MustHHusky said:If they pay the government rate--which is FEMA's claim--who cares?
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Well, I would say that the people of Maui care.HHusky said:
Instead of setting up minutes from the disaster site in nearby Kaanapali, they’re an hour away in Wailea, staying in the 3 most expensive hotels in the Hawaiian Islands.
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Imagine the howling from hh if this was Trumps FEMA staying in the most expensive hotels.thechatch said:
Well, I would say that the people of Maui care.HHusky said:
Instead of setting up minutes from the disaster site in nearby Kaanapali, they’re an hour away in Wailea, staying in the 3 most expensive hotels in the Hawaiian Islands.
It’s absurd.
By all accounts (other than goose stepping rats like hh), biden admin has fucked this up coming and going. -
100% this.Bendintheriver said:
Imagine the howling from hh if this was Trumps FEMA staying in the most expensive hotels.thechatch said:
Well, I would say that the people of Maui care.HHusky said:
Instead of setting up minutes from the disaster site in nearby Kaanapali, they’re an hour away in Wailea, staying in the 3 most expensive hotels in the Hawaiian Islands.
It’s absurd.
By all accounts (other than goose stepping rats like hh), biden admin has fucked this up coming and going.
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Yeah, this is an ICS response and I guarantee the logistics officer presented options for both(or more). Leadership took the chance to stay somewhere they wouldn't normally be able to afford 100% and said screw it to the optics. Public liason was probably shitting bricks.thechatch said:
Well, I would say that the people of Maui care.HHusky said:
Instead of setting up minutes from the disaster site in nearby Kaanapali, they’re an hour away in Wailea, staying in the 3 most expensive hotels in the Hawaiian Islands.
It’s absurd.
This is something that gets considered on small million dollar responses. You don't stay at the Sands resort in Laguna if you're cleaning up oil on that beach. It isn't a good look. -
But don't accuse him or @MelloDawg of being partisan hacks. A true conservative and centrist!RaceBannon said:
MustHHusky said:If they pay the government rate--which is FEMA's claim--who cares?
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100% this.Bendintheriver said:
Imagine the howling from hh if this was Trumps FEMA staying in the most expensive hotels.thechatch said:
Well, I would say that the people of Maui care.HHusky said:
Instead of setting up minutes from the disaster site in nearby Kaanapali, they’re an hour away in Wailea, staying in the 3 most expensive hotels in the Hawaiian Islands.
It’s absurd.
By all accounts (other than goose stepping rats like hh), biden admin has fucked this up coming and going.
A propagandist doesn't need to be consistent nor does it matter if they are a hypocrite. -
HHusky said:
If you're a partisan retard--who cares?
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“FEMA selects where all responders can be centrally located to ensure the most effective response possible. Due to the lack of available lodging, FEMA negotiated government rates, at the lowest possible cost, for staff temporarily staying in the available hotels. As we transition into recovery, staff will move to longer term, more affordable lodging as they fulfill our commitment to support Maui,” the agency said in a statement to NewsNation.
But you girls must have your outrage, of course. (They’re paying $345/night btw.)
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Sounds like the Team Dazzler dem party. Like I said, "No functional difference".UW_Doog_Bot said:
The final distinctive characteristic of Russian propaganda is that it is not committed to consistency. First, different propaganda media do not necessarily broadcast the exact same themes or messages. Second, different channels do not necessarily broadcast the same account of contested events. Third, different channels or representatives show no fear of “changing their tune.” If one falsehood or misrepresentation is exposed or is not well received, the propagandists will discard it and move on to a new (though not necessarily more plausible) explanation. One example of such behavior is the string of accounts offered for the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. Russian sources have offered numerous theories about how the aircraft came to be shot down and by whom, very few of which are plausible.27 Lack of commitment to consistency is also apparent in statements from Russian President Vladimir Putin. For example, he first denied that the “little green men” in Crimea were Russian soldiers but later admitted that they were. Similarly, he at first denied any desire to see Crimea join Russia, but then he admitted that that had been his plan all along.28pawz said:
100% this.Bendintheriver said:
Imagine the howling from hh if this was Trumps FEMA staying in the most expensive hotels.thechatch said:
Well, I would say that the people of Maui care.HHusky said:
Instead of setting up minutes from the disaster site in nearby Kaanapali, they’re an hour away in Wailea, staying in the 3 most expensive hotels in the Hawaiian Islands.
It’s absurd.
By all accounts (other than goose stepping rats like hh), biden admin has fucked this up coming and going.
A propagandist doesn't need to be consistent nor does it matter if they are a hypocrite. -
The government won't lie to usHHusky said:“FEMA selects where all responders can be centrally located to ensure the most effective response possible. Due to the lack of available lodging, FEMA negotiated government rates, at the lowest possible cost, for staff temporarily staying in the available hotels. As we transition into recovery, staff will move to longer term, more affordable lodging as they fulfill our commitment to support Maui,” the agency said in a statement to NewsNation.
But you girls must have your outrage, of course. (They’re paying $345/night btw.) -
Investigate to your heart’s content.RaceBannon said:
The government won't lie to usHHusky said:“FEMA selects where all responders can be centrally located to ensure the most effective response possible. Due to the lack of available lodging, FEMA negotiated government rates, at the lowest possible cost, for staff temporarily staying in the available hotels. As we transition into recovery, staff will move to longer term, more affordable lodging as they fulfill our commitment to support Maui,” the agency said in a statement to NewsNation.
But you girls must have your outrage, of course. (They’re paying $345/night btw.) -
You'll just keep your head up your assHHusky said:
Investigate to your heart’s content.RaceBannon said:
The government won't lie to usHHusky said:“FEMA selects where all responders can be centrally located to ensure the most effective response possible. Due to the lack of available lodging, FEMA negotiated government rates, at the lowest possible cost, for staff temporarily staying in the available hotels. As we transition into recovery, staff will move to longer term, more affordable lodging as they fulfill our commitment to support Maui,” the agency said in a statement to NewsNation.
But you girls must have your outrage, of course. (They’re paying $345/night btw.)
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Neat, I actually happen to be an expert in this area. I already knew they weren't paying $3k a night. It's not about the rate dumb dumb.HHusky said:“FEMA selects where all responders can be centrally located to ensure the most effective response possible. Due to the lack of available lodging, FEMA negotiated government rates, at the lowest possible cost, for staff temporarily staying in the available hotels. As we transition into recovery, staff will move to longer term, more affordable lodging as they fulfill our commitment to support Maui,” the agency said in a statement to NewsNation.
But you girls must have your outrage, of course. (They’re paying $345/night btw.)
Many of the resorts would probably completely comp the response teams in this case. Axe me how I know.
Good attempt at a deflection though. I assume you picked the talking point up off of your favorite propaganda site.
"Why a failed emergency response is actually a good thing for the residents of Maui."
You put the evacuees in the comped luxury rooms and your ICS team stays in trailers or other makeshift accommodations as close to the response as is safe.
Fema literally has training and positions specifically responsible for optics and conflicts of interest like this. You avoid even the appearance of such things even if they are comped.
Unless you're a Dem and know the useful idiots will lap up whatever your PR department will spin for them. -
Come see @HHusky struggle in every thread.
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The other girls were complaining about the rate. They’re not “in the know” like you, Brenda.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Neat, I actually happen to be an expert in this area. I already knew they weren't paying $3k a night. It's not about the rate dumb dumb.HHusky said:“FEMA selects where all responders can be centrally located to ensure the most effective response possible. Due to the lack of available lodging, FEMA negotiated government rates, at the lowest possible cost, for staff temporarily staying in the available hotels. As we transition into recovery, staff will move to longer term, more affordable lodging as they fulfill our commitment to support Maui,” the agency said in a statement to NewsNation.
But you girls must have your outrage, of course. (They’re paying $345/night btw.)
Many of the resorts would probably completely comp the response teams in this case. Axe me how I know.
Good attempt at a deflection though. I assume you picked the talking point up off of your favorite propaganda site.
"Why a failed emergency response is actually a good thing for the residents of Maui."
You put the evacuees in the comped luxury rooms and your ICS team stays in trailers or other makeshift accommodations as close to the response as is safe.
Fema literally has training and positions specifically responsible for optics and conflicts of interest like this. You avoid even the appearance of such things even if they are comped.
Unless you're a Dem and know the useful idiots will lap up whatever your PR department will spin for them. -
Sounds like you got him!UW_Doog_Bot said: -
Ok so nothing about the inappropriateness of it. Got it.HHusky said:
The other girls were complaining about the rate. They’re not “in the know” like you, Brenda.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Neat, I actually happen to be an expert in this area. I already knew they weren't paying $3k a night. It's not about the rate dumb dumb.HHusky said:“FEMA selects where all responders can be centrally located to ensure the most effective response possible. Due to the lack of available lodging, FEMA negotiated government rates, at the lowest possible cost, for staff temporarily staying in the available hotels. As we transition into recovery, staff will move to longer term, more affordable lodging as they fulfill our commitment to support Maui,” the agency said in a statement to NewsNation.
But you girls must have your outrage, of course. (They’re paying $345/night btw.)
Many of the resorts would probably completely comp the response teams in this case. Axe me how I know.
Good attempt at a deflection though. I assume you picked the talking point up off of your favorite propaganda site.
"Why a failed emergency response is actually a good thing for the residents of Maui."
You put the evacuees in the comped luxury rooms and your ICS team stays in trailers or other makeshift accommodations as close to the response as is safe.
Fema literally has training and positions specifically responsible for optics and conflicts of interest like this. You avoid even the appearance of such things even if they are comped.
Unless you're a Dem and know the useful idiots will lap up whatever your PR department will spin for them.
Steel man your straw man.
Deflect deflect deflect.
Or did you want to respond? I won't hold my breathe diddler. -
How do you know?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Neat, I actually happen to be an expert in this area. I already knew they weren't paying $3k a night. It's not about the rate dumb dumb.HHusky said:“FEMA selects where all responders can be centrally located to ensure the most effective response possible. Due to the lack of available lodging, FEMA negotiated government rates, at the lowest possible cost, for staff temporarily staying in the available hotels. As we transition into recovery, staff will move to longer term, more affordable lodging as they fulfill our commitment to support Maui,” the agency said in a statement to NewsNation.
But you girls must have your outrage, of course. (They’re paying $345/night btw.)
Many of the resorts would probably completely comp the response teams in this case. Axe me how I know.
Good attempt at a deflection though. I assume you picked the talking point up off of your favorite propaganda site.
"Why a failed emergency response is actually a good thing for the residents of Maui."
You put the evacuees in the comped luxury rooms and your ICS team stays in trailers or other makeshift accommodations as close to the response as is safe.
Fema literally has training and positions specifically responsible for optics and conflicts of interest like this. You avoid even the appearance of such things even if they are comped.
Unless you're a Dem and know the useful idiots will lap up whatever your PR department will spin for them. -
Reread the first sentence.MelloDawg said:
How do you know?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Neat, I actually happen to be an expert in this area. I already knew they weren't paying $3k a night. It's not about the rate dumb dumb.HHusky said:“FEMA selects where all responders can be centrally located to ensure the most effective response possible. Due to the lack of available lodging, FEMA negotiated government rates, at the lowest possible cost, for staff temporarily staying in the available hotels. As we transition into recovery, staff will move to longer term, more affordable lodging as they fulfill our commitment to support Maui,” the agency said in a statement to NewsNation.
But you girls must have your outrage, of course. (They’re paying $345/night btw.)
Many of the resorts would probably completely comp the response teams in this case. Axe me how I know.
Good attempt at a deflection though. I assume you picked the talking point up off of your favorite propaganda site.
"Why a failed emergency response is actually a good thing for the residents of Maui."
You put the evacuees in the comped luxury rooms and your ICS team stays in trailers or other makeshift accommodations as close to the response as is safe.
Fema literally has training and positions specifically responsible for optics and conflicts of interest like this. You avoid even the appearance of such things even if they are comped.
Unless you're a Dem and know the useful idiots will lap up whatever your PR department will spin for them.
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Inappropriateness of having FEMA staff located near one another. Gee, I wonder if they ever have meetings and planning sessions.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Ok so nothing about the inappropriateness of it. Got it.HHusky said:
The other girls were complaining about the rate. They’re not “in the know” like you, Brenda.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Neat, I actually happen to be an expert in this area. I already knew they weren't paying $3k a night. It's not about the rate dumb dumb.HHusky said:“FEMA selects where all responders can be centrally located to ensure the most effective response possible. Due to the lack of available lodging, FEMA negotiated government rates, at the lowest possible cost, for staff temporarily staying in the available hotels. As we transition into recovery, staff will move to longer term, more affordable lodging as they fulfill our commitment to support Maui,” the agency said in a statement to NewsNation.
But you girls must have your outrage, of course. (They’re paying $345/night btw.)
Many of the resorts would probably completely comp the response teams in this case. Axe me how I know.
Good attempt at a deflection though. I assume you picked the talking point up off of your favorite propaganda site.
"Why a failed emergency response is actually a good thing for the residents of Maui."
You put the evacuees in the comped luxury rooms and your ICS team stays in trailers or other makeshift accommodations as close to the response as is safe.
Fema literally has training and positions specifically responsible for optics and conflicts of interest like this. You avoid even the appearance of such things even if they are comped.
Unless you're a Dem and know the useful idiots will lap up whatever your PR department will spin for them.
Steel man your straw man.
Deflect deflect deflect.
Or did you want to respond? I won't hold my breathe diddler. -
Head up ass is no problem for the Dazzler. 7 monkey on a moped could do a U turn in that thing. His proctologist wears a miners helmet.RaceBannon said:
You'll just keep your head up your assHHusky said:
Investigate to your heart’s content.RaceBannon said:
The government won't lie to usHHusky said:“FEMA selects where all responders can be centrally located to ensure the most effective response possible. Due to the lack of available lodging, FEMA negotiated government rates, at the lowest possible cost, for staff temporarily staying in the available hotels. As we transition into recovery, staff will move to longer term, more affordable lodging as they fulfill our commitment to support Maui,” the agency said in a statement to NewsNation.
But you girls must have your outrage, of course. (They’re paying $345/night btw.)
Too bad Trump doesn't have a hotel on Maui -
Without doxing myself I'm highly trained and have been involved in numerous mid-sized responses. I'm on-call on lists for California, and some national lists. I get to be in the leadership trailer for big responses and have been ICS command on small responses(which still even then have public liasons).MelloDawg said:
How do you know?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Neat, I actually happen to be an expert in this area. I already knew they weren't paying $3k a night. It's not about the rate dumb dumb.HHusky said:“FEMA selects where all responders can be centrally located to ensure the most effective response possible. Due to the lack of available lodging, FEMA negotiated government rates, at the lowest possible cost, for staff temporarily staying in the available hotels. As we transition into recovery, staff will move to longer term, more affordable lodging as they fulfill our commitment to support Maui,” the agency said in a statement to NewsNation.
But you girls must have your outrage, of course. (They’re paying $345/night btw.)
Many of the resorts would probably completely comp the response teams in this case. Axe me how I know.
Good attempt at a deflection though. I assume you picked the talking point up off of your favorite propaganda site.
"Why a failed emergency response is actually a good thing for the residents of Maui."
You put the evacuees in the comped luxury rooms and your ICS team stays in trailers or other makeshift accommodations as close to the response as is safe.
Fema literally has training and positions specifically responsible for optics and conflicts of interest like this. You avoid even the appearance of such things even if they are comped.
Unless you're a Dem and know the useful idiots will lap up whatever your PR department will spin for them.
During COVID most of you were running to Costco to grab the last toilet paper. I was on calls to figure out how to triage the public infrastructure so society didn't collapse. I even got my special Nazi papers allowing me free movement no matter what the lockdowns said.
Beyond that, my friends, co-workers, and even family have been on some of the biggest responses in the last 20 years or basically since Fema got overhauled after Katrina.
I'll be doing table top drills next month and I guarantee we will be discussing lessons learned of what not to do from Maui.
Emergency response superiority guy, every board has one.
FEMA Training (.gov)
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