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Jen Cohen's repeated emphasis on UW's "commitment to sustainability"

DerekJohnson
DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,226 Founders Club
Enough already. You just joined the Big 10. Your athletes will be traversing the continent on the regular, traveling countless thousands of more miles with an increased carbon footprint. And yet your athletic department continues to beat its chest about "sustainability."

How about a halftime marching band tribute to fossil fuels?

Normally I'd take this to the Tug Tavern. But its pertinent here on the main board.
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  • SwisherSweetboy
    SwisherSweetboy Member Posts: 586 Standard Supporter
    ESG is thy name
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,263
    I mean they can recycle the stadium drinking water from the 300 level troughs for all I care. Just win baby

    The irony of the extended flights is palpable though I'll give you that
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    Sounds like there's just that much more carbon to offset...
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,941
    They’re no longer offering cups. You have to hold your hand open for a pour and shots are given Mazatlan style. Finger food only. No waste. No flyers. No handouts. Tailgating is permitted 30 minutes before kickoff and all must leave immediately. It’s wasteful otherwise.
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,266

    Canadawg said:

    I mean they can recycle the stadium drinking water from the 300 level troughs for all I care. Just win baby

    The irony of the extended flights is palpable though I'll give you that

    I think you're missing the point a bit. It's not about the actions that are taken to sustain the environment, be they valid or not. It's the athletic department's constant virtue signaling and bragging about how they're saving the environment that is the hypocrisy.
    Agree that trying to market anything sustainable after the B1G news looks ridiculous.

    Hopefully the athletic department keeps trying to be as "sustainable" as possible to offset some of the upcoming increased travel.

    I'd be curious how much "sustainability" plays into the buying decisions of students etc. Are they not going to attend football games repeatedly if there is not a strong attempt at reducing waste, environmental efficiency, etc?
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,229 Founders Club


    Did you really downvote your own post? Impressive.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,226 Founders Club



    Did you really downvote your own post? Impressive.

    now that's inner conflict
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    Weird thing to be upset about. Like @CFetters_Nacho_Lover said, you either have an AD or you don't. In the current environment, it was increase carbon footprint or die, so UW chose to not die. Same as Ghana completely deforesting their country for charcoal when gas prices tripled and they couldn't afford it. Easy to be shortsighted when it's that or starve. Doesn't make the deforestation good.

    Reducing energy consumption is a good thing regardless of charter jet fuel consumption that keeps the show going. Even if you're the rolling coal type, it saves the AD money in the long run, and that's good no matter how many hours per day you spend in the Tug.

    If you're going to do it anyway, might as well brag about it when your school is located in a place like Seattle.

    TL;DR: Who cares?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,226 Founders Club

    Weird thing to be upset about. Like @CFetters_Nacho_Lover said, you either have an AD or you don't. In the current environment, it was increase carbon footprint or die, so UW chose to not die. Same as Ghana completely deforesting their country for charcoal when gas prices tripled and they couldn't afford it. Easy to be shortsighted when it's that or starve. Doesn't make the deforestation good.

    Reducing energy consumption is a good thing regardless of charter jet fuel consumption that keeps the show going. Even if you're the rolling coal type, it saves the AD money in the long run, and that's good no matter how many hours per day you spend in the Tug.

    If you're going to do it anyway, might as well brag about it when your school is located in a place like Seattle.

    TL;DR: Who cares?

    Who said I was upset? I identified an hypocrisy and commented on it. Like Canadawg, you're missing the point here, or else reacting reflexively based on ideology.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,709 Founders Club
    More cheap energy is a GOOD thing

    It's so first world to worry about it

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club



    Did you really downvote your own post? Impressive.

    Pressing too many buttons. Fixed.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,149 Standard Supporter
    chuck said:

    Virtue signaling?! They ditched paper tickets. What more would you have of them.

    Seriously I'm all for sustainability when one can actually identify reasonable opportunities. WTF can a football team or athletic program do to be environmentally sustainable in any meaningful way? Are they going to eliminate single use plastics? Make people bring their own refillable drinking vessels? Only play day games (no lights) and eliminate sideline coolers for the players?

    I don't see it. It's a faggy buzz word meant to placate people who feed on buzz words and catch phrases and don't watch football anyways. As a tree hugging libtard (nevermind I'm the only non logger in my family and have never had strained relationships over it) I cringe when the AD uses words like that.

    TITTT

    They probably have banned straws and are using biodegradable sporks. That's about the extent of what they can do short of switching their football schedule to an SEC format where they don't leave the PNW for any road games.
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter
    edited August 2023
    I’m #TeamAbundance on this one. You can call out the hypocrisy AND praise the AD for doing what they can to help the environment that’s under their control.

    The smugness is grating, I’ll grant you, but honestly that sweet, sweet FREE VIRTUE PUB! is one of the few things that drives organizations to do the right thing.



    *Miss ya @DoogCourics
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,836

    Enough already. You just joined the Big 10. Your athletes will be traversing the continent on the regular, traveling countless thousands of more miles with an increased carbon footprint. And yet your athletic department continues to beat its chest about "sustainability."

    How about a halftime marching band tribute to fossil fuels?

    Normally I'd take this to the Tug Tavern. But its pertinent here on the main board.

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    2. Classical Gas - Mason Williams
    3. Fuel - Metallica
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,229 Founders Club



    Did you really downvote your own post? Impressive.

    Pressing too many buttons. Fixed.
    Stalin got you pretty upset over that IU Mango Pepsi post, huh?
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,145
    Its Seattle.

    Gotta give lip service to this shit.

    I doubt Cohen and the AD give two shits. Or even Cauce, who is now a verified badass
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,214 Founders Club
    edited August 2023

    Its Seattle.

    Gotta give lip service to this shit.

    I doubt Cohen and the AD give two shits. Or even Cauce, who is now a verified badass





  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327
    Why don't they just hire coaches over zoom?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    I propose changing the name from Husky Jacks to Sustainability Jacks

    Dually noted.
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,263
    The point is that people that don't like the position aren't going to have a negative effect on the athletics program. "That's stupid to worry about sustainability they fly jets!...Anyways who's Centre this year??"

    On the flip side people who do care about the subject can feel good about themselves and will keep their head high knowing they are saving the planet while they watch football. A two fer!

    No one is changing the channel because Jen is broadcasting a green initiative...unless @DerekJohnson wants to be a pioneer?
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam

    FireCohen said:

    fuck the planet

    She just might
    Who wouldn't if they could?
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,078
    chuck said:

    FireCohen said:

    fuck the planet

    She just might
    Who wouldn't if they could?
    Me. And you know what I’m working with…
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    Weird thing to be upset about. Like @CFetters_Nacho_Lover said, you either have an AD or you don't. In the current environment, it was increase carbon footprint or die, so UW chose to not die. Same as Ghana completely deforesting their country for charcoal when gas prices tripled and they couldn't afford it. Easy to be shortsighted when it's that or starve. Doesn't make the deforestation good.

    Reducing energy consumption is a good thing regardless of charter jet fuel consumption that keeps the show going. Even if you're the rolling coal type, it saves the AD money in the long run, and that's good no matter how many hours per day you spend in the Tug.

    If you're going to do it anyway, might as well brag about it when your school is located in a place like Seattle.

    TL;DR: Who cares?

    Who said I was upset? I identified an hypocrisy and commented on it. Like Canadawg, you're missing the point here, or else reacting reflexively based on ideology.
    You didn't identify a hypocrisy, you just wanted to. Unless your philosophy is that you either live in a cave eating berries or you're a hypocrite, but I doubt that's the case. You're letting perfect be the enemy of good. It's objectively a good thing to be efficient. Making a dirty and expensive thing (in this case having an athletics program, I guess) less dirty and more efficient is good. It saves money. It uses less resources. This is no different than a car company bragging that their half-ton pickup gets 2 more mpg than the competition. Why wouldn't they? It saves the customer money, is a selling point, and makes some small percentage of them feel better about buying them. That pickup truck still guzzles gas, but it guzzles less gas, and a Honda Civic isn't towing your boat.

    "Reacting reflexively based on ideology" is starting a forum thread complaining about something that saves the program you love money and has literally zero impact on your life. I'm in the "IDGAF" camp; you're the one starting a thread in which the first two words are "enough already." Which would suggest to a reasonable person that you're at least a little upset...
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,036 Founders Club
    But why isn't the AD also the DEI leader of the conference??? @FireCohen yesterday