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Is it great to hear? Is it going to be great to be listed in the history books as a potential player in the demise of a Power-5 conference? Because I can see a scenario where UW and Oregon aren't looked at in glowing terms when all this shakes out. And maybe you couldn't care less about that, and that's fine. But others may care.
IMHO UW and Oregon feel like Schrödinger's teams right now; both alive and dead at the same time
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Only the most jaded Pac-12 fans are celebrating this right now IMHO. Completely eliminating decades and decades of history in a matter of days. And on top of the fact that this was set up to be arguably the best college football season in history for the conference. And more than that, UW has a legit Heisman Trophy candidate and a team worthy of playoff talk.
And it's like none of that is going to matter now. That absolutely sucks for the players and coaches that have worked ridiculously hard to get to this point. I asked Chuck Morrell about how the team tries to eliminate the outside noise when stuff like this is going on and he just said they have to focus on what they can control. That's it. They don't have a choice. But is anyone going to be paying attention now?
I doubt many are going to care about this Pac-12 season in the grand scheme. It's just going to be seen in the history books as the year the conference imploded. Everyone is already thinking about 2024, because this is now old news.
I was a history major in college; this stuff matters to me, and perhaps it matters to me more than most. If it doesn't matter to you, that's cool. I'm not judging your opinion on it.
But if you think this is a happy day for college football, I just simply disagree.
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"Because I can see a scenario where UW and Oregon aren't looked at in glowing terms when all this shakes out."
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Cringe
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Fatters just not looking forward to buying two seats for his cross country trip
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There's several poonts I agree with, quite honestly, but Fetters always gotta drench the platter with a thick condescension gravy.
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He doesn't have to.coach_pete_JPG said:Fatters just not looking forward to buying two seats for his cross country trip
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So it's UW's fault the Pac-12 leadership sucked and all the TV networks don't have money anymore and that AppleTV lowballed the conference?bananasnblondes said:cfetters
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Is it great to hear? Is it going to be great to be listed in the history books as a potential player in the demise of a Power-5 conference? Because I can see a scenario where UW and Oregon aren't looked at in glowing terms when all this shakes out. And maybe you couldn't care less about that, and that's fine. But others may care.
IMHO UW and Oregon feel like Schrödinger's teams right now; both alive and dead at the same time
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Only the most jaded Pac-12 fans are celebrating this right now IMHO. Completely eliminating decades and decades of history in a matter of days. And on top of the fact that this was set up to be arguably the best college football season in history for the conference. And more than that, UW has a legit Heisman Trophy candidate and a team worthy of playoff talk.
And it's like none of that is going to matter now. That absolutely sucks for the players and coaches that have worked ridiculously hard to get to this point. I asked Chuck Morrell about how the team tries to eliminate the outside noise when stuff like this is going on and he just said they have to focus on what they can control. That's it. They don't have a choice. But is anyone going to be paying attention now?
I doubt many are going to care about this Pac-12 season in the grand scheme. It's just going to be seen in the history books as the year the conference imploded. Everyone is already thinking about 2024, because this is now old news.
I was a history major in college; this stuff matters to me, and perhaps it matters to me more than most. If it doesn't matter to you, that's cool. I'm not judging your opinion on it.
But if you think this is a happy day for college football, I just simply disagree. -
Shut up fatters @CFetters_Nacho_Lover @CfettersNachoLover
USC will always be the reason this happened. None of UW, UO or UCLA initiated this. But once the ball started rolling, there was no other play.
If ND ever joins, that will be Stanford's window.
I can't see making a big play for Furd and Cal anytime soon. If the academis really factored in, they would be in the conversation today. They aren't, unless you read the Mercury News.
Furd should just go independent. They're simply a different institution. Cal should just play UC Irvine and Beav and Coog and be done with it. -
Fetters is so dumb. Pup was proud he taught Fetters everything he knew.
I’m not sure why Fetters feels everyone is already focused on 2024. I’m pretty sure UW, USC, and Oregon are all excited for this season and have high hopes. If anything, more attention will be paid to be PAC 12 because teams outside of the West will be more curious about the teams joining their conference.
We had to join the Big 10. The PAC 12 without the LA schools was already irrelevant. Only a moron feels otherwise. -
Well, apparently Whitman History degrees aren't worth shit. And as a UW History major with low academis prowess (hi @creepycoug ) that's saying something.
What a sappy, cheese dick, piece of shit this slob is.
The Pac 12 IS NOT A POWER 5 WITHOUT THE LA SCHOOLS you stupid fuck.
USC's short sighted cash grab is the proximate cause of the demise of the 108 year conference. UW and UO didn't fuck over anyone, and are taking up the ass (i.e., Indiana gets more TV money than UW) just to survive. -
I’m not a Pac12 fan. I’m a fucking Washington fan.
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Victim-blaming
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In other "No shit?" (patently obvious) news:
We hear about the value of other sports, the importance of academics. And yet the Big Ten, as it now gets set to gobble up Oregon and Washington — its third and fourth Pac-12 schools — has not yet invited Stanford, the best in the nation at all sports. Nor is the Big Ten rushing to pick up Cal, an elite academic institution (as is Stanford). Perhaps the Big Ten eventually takes those two schools. But not making them a priority right away, slotting them fifth and sixth on its West Coast wish list, shows what the game is really about.
Keep whining.
https://theathletic.com/4748841/2023/08/04/big-ten-realignment-washington-oregon-nil/
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He's so dumb he can't even take a compliment, which probably only ever happens to him when he's ordering food. When I learned he went to Whitman, I was surprised to put it mildly. I made some comment, like, "Hey, I thought you were a dumbfuck, but you went to Whitman, so that's good for you," or something. Anyway, the guy even fucked that up by saying he didn't think it was a big deal.YellowSnow said:Well, apparently Whitman History degrees aren't worth shit. And as a UW History major with low academis prowess (hi @creepycoug ) that's saying something.
What a sappy, cheese dick, piece of shit this slob is.
The Pac 12 IS NOT A POWER 5 WITHOUT THE LA SCHOOLS you stupid fuck.
USC's short sighted cash grab is the proximate cause of the demise of the 108 year conference. UW and UO didn't fuck over anyone, and are taking up the ass (i.e., Indiana gets more TV money than UW) just to survive.
Hey dummy, that and your body are about the only big deals you'll ever experience in your life. -
Just when you think you’ve heard the stupidest take from Fetters, you hear something even stupider.
Don’t ever stop being you, Chris. Dumbfucks like you make assholes like me feel pretty good about ourselves. -
Sounds like technically gifted writing to me.RoadDawg55 said:Fetters is so dumb. Pup was proud he taught Fetters everything he knew.
I’m not sure why Fetters feels everyone is already focused on 2024. I’m pretty sure UW, USC, and Oregon are all excited for this season and have high hopes. If anything, more attention will be paid to be PAC 12 because teams outside of the West will be more curious about the teams joining their conference.
We had to join the Big 10. The PAC 12 without the LA schools was already irrelevant. Only a moron feels otherwise.
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do Georgia, Alabama, or LSU fans ever chant S-E-C, S-E-C, S-E-C... i don't believe so. It's beta behavior reserved for the bottom dregs of the conference.JoeEDangerously said:I’m not a Pac12 fan. I’m a fucking Washington fan.
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This season matters
Coaches and players love the move because it's payday baby
No one has more conference history than I do but there have been 5 different versions since I was born
And fuck the Pac 9 anyway -
tbh pac-12 did serve to get guillotined for hiring larry scootFenderbender123 said:Victim-blaming
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It wasn't a Pac anything with fucking Utah in it.RaceBannon said:This season matters
Coaches and players love the move because it's payday baby
No one has more conference history than I do but there have been 5 different versions since I was born
And fuck the Pac 9 anyway -
All the usual cringe tard media types hate this move for UW.
Danny O'Neille is probably still screaming at husky fans on Twitter right now. -
In a perfect world USC and UCLA stays and everyone makes 50 million
Sink or swim -
Huh?
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This.JoeEDangerously said:I’m not a Pac12 fan. I’m a fucking Washington fan.
Look, I don't love getting paid less than Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa, et al.
But if this the kind of real-politik required to save Washington then so be it.
No Washington or Oregon fan should feel a damn bit of remorse.
Video killed the radio star. Is what it is. -
The definitive post on this topicTheHB said:Just when you think you’ve heard the stupidest take from Fetters, you hear something even stupider.
Don’t ever stop being you, Chris. Dumbfucks like you make assholes like me feel pretty good about ourselves. -
This was the better course of action. USC didn't need to money. Just a good corch and path to the CFP.PostGameOrangeSlices said:In a perfect world USC and UCLA stays and everyone makes 50 million
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I don’t love the shitty schools getting more and ideally they would be told to fuck off, they get what they get.YellowSnow said:
This.JoeEDangerously said:I’m not a Pac12 fan. I’m a fucking Washington fan.
Look, I don't love getting paid less than Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa, et al.
But if this the kind of real-politik required to save Washington then so be it.
No Washington or Oregon fan should feel a damn bit of remorse.
Video killed the radio star. Is what it is.
The good news is that it is temporary. By 2029 we get the full share. Revenue obviously matters but isn’t everything. A lot of programs generate a lot of revenue but are still average or shitty. -
UW was in severe danger of not mattering anymore. And UW has been fine at fucking up, for decades, without outside help.
This move ensures they will be in a league that will be near or at top for $ for years. They gave up - perhaps - slightly better chance at basically a G5 playoff bid, for a couple years, for potentially enough $ to keep mattering.
Larry Scott and the idiots who believed in him killed this shit; USCLA just put a date on the tombstone.
Maybe the progrum will still suck, but it'll be fun and "either way it will be interesting"
Cheers-- -
What a sanctimonious load of shitbananasnblondes said:cfetters
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Is it great to hear? Is it going to be great to be listed in the history books as a potential player in the demise of a Power-5 conference? Because I can see a scenario where UW and Oregon aren't looked at in glowing terms when all this shakes out. And maybe you couldn't care less about that, and that's fine. But others may care.
IMHO UW and Oregon feel like Schrödinger's teams right now; both alive and dead at the same time
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Only the most jaded Pac-12 fans are celebrating this right now IMHO. Completely eliminating decades and decades of history in a matter of days. And on top of the fact that this was set up to be arguably the best college football season in history for the conference. And more than that, UW has a legit Heisman Trophy candidate and a team worthy of playoff talk.
And it's like none of that is going to matter now. That absolutely sucks for the players and coaches that have worked ridiculously hard to get to this point. I asked Chuck Morrell about how the team tries to eliminate the outside noise when stuff like this is going on and he just said they have to focus on what they can control. That's it. They don't have a choice. But is anyone going to be paying attention now?
I doubt many are going to care about this Pac-12 season in the grand scheme. It's just going to be seen in the history books as the year the conference imploded. Everyone is already thinking about 2024, because this is now old news.
I was a history major in college; this stuff matters to me, and perhaps it matters to me more than most. If it doesn't matter to you, that's cool. I'm not judging your opinion on it.
But if you think this is a happy day for college football, I just simply disagree.
Of course it sucks that all that history fades to nothing. But for Washington to stay aboard this sinking ship would have been the eventual death knell to the program. -
After the conference raped UW in 1993, this is poetic justice in a certain senseRaceBannon said:This season matters
Coaches and players love the move because it's payday baby
No one has more conference history than I do but there have been 5 different versions since I was born
And fuck the Pac 9 anyway
