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    CanadawgCanadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,056
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    ntxduck said:

    Canadawg said:

    haie said:

    godawgst said:

    doogville said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)

    They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.

    Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.

    No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.
    Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…
    Simple math equation. Fox and the B10 doesn't need UW/Oregon until the SEC expands, so why would Fox pay more and why would the B10 schools split the pie more ways taking money out of the pocket.
    Because long term there will be 24 teams per conference and there aren't that many good brands left. There are only 2 remaining in the west.

    No one wants to be stuck having to take Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech to round out their league.
    Vtech is a legitimate program with support. These decisions aren't based on the past 3 years of on field performance
    Not really.
    In a world where we have two 20ish team leagues I'd say Vtech is comfortably a top 30 team so there would be a little sizzle there. The future of CFB isn't going to have only elite teams
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    whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,500
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    Canadawg said:

    ntxduck said:

    Canadawg said:

    haie said:

    godawgst said:

    doogville said:

    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    The big ten is actually dumb af for sitting on 16. Adding Oregon/UW/unc/Duke/fsu/Miami would put it on par with the sec + make it the premiere basketball conference. Only a few schools really generate money from Bball, and the big ten would then have most of them (Duke, unc, md, msu, UM, Wisconsin, Illinois, purdue, ucla)

    They can't sit at 16. It's an arms race with the SEC and they only have 2 west coast schools.

    Sure they want to expand east and get some schools that could either go SEC or B1G, but they can't leave the LA schools on an island.

    No one here is mentioning that you have to appease your largest customer, which is FOX. FOX wants a West Coast pod.
    Sure doesn’t seem like FOX cares about that. They could have UW & OR any time they want in the BIG10. And yet here we are…
    Simple math equation. Fox and the B10 doesn't need UW/Oregon until the SEC expands, so why would Fox pay more and why would the B10 schools split the pie more ways taking money out of the pocket.
    Because long term there will be 24 teams per conference and there aren't that many good brands left. There are only 2 remaining in the west.

    No one wants to be stuck having to take Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech to round out their league.
    Vtech is a legitimate program with support. These decisions aren't based on the past 3 years of on field performance
    Not really.
    In a world where we have two 20ish team leagues I'd say Vtech is comfortably a top 30 team so there would be a little sizzle there. The future of CFB isn't going to have only elite teams
    I could see the Big Ten taking Georgia Tech for the Atlanta market.

    I think VTech is destined for the SEC mega conference
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    LawDawg1LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,756
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    the reason I ask is that "Apple TV" is literally the apple TV box that you buy that enables you to download various apps that you can subscribe to.

    It's the "box" and a streaming service.
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    ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,518
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    Some of you think of VT the way east coast people think of coug.

    Outside of 1 legendary coach, they’re nothing. I’m pretty sure they don’t sell VT gear that isn’t in camo
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    whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,500
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    ntxduck said:

    Some of you think of VT the way east coast people think of coug.

    Outside of 1 legendary coach, they’re nothing. I’m pretty sure they don’t sell VT gear that isn’t in camo

    Disagree

    https://www.winsipedia.com/virginia-tech/vs/washington-state

    17th all-tim in wins vs 78th
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    haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,774
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    UW getting in the B1G would be the biggest thing since the 1991 Natty.

    This would put UW in a very desirable spot and increase national exposure by a factor we have never sniffed before.

    Even having Minnesota, Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland in Husky Stadium is significantly more interesting than UA, ASU, Utah, etc.

    That's millions of more eyeballs on the "greatest setting" every saturday than ever before. Forget about having tOSU, Michigan, Penn St. in the stadium. Florida St. coming to HS? That would be a major event.

    Also, schedule WSU as an OOC and you still maintain all the usual regional rivalries.

    Getting to a B1G that includes Oregon and the Cali schools maintains everything Dawg fans have ever cared about in the historical Pac combined with exponentially bigger national upside.

    If you want UW to compete with the Seahawks in the Seattle market, this is what would do it.

    This would light a massive fire under the UW fan base and bring passionate visiting fanbases to Husky Stadium. This is everything a true Dawg fan has ever wanted.

    Aside from being the obvious best fit for the B1G in all aspects, the MSU game opened their eyes a bit on the value it would bring their conference to get Seattle with a competitive team.
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    KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,753
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    haie said:

    UW getting in the B1G would be the biggest thing since the 1991 Natty.

    This would put UW in a very desirable spot and increase national exposure by a factor we have never sniffed before.

    Even having Minnesota, Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland in Husky Stadium is significantly more interesting than UA, ASU, Utah, etc.

    That's millions of more eyeballs on the "greatest setting" every saturday than ever before. Forget about having tOSU, Michigan, Penn St. in the stadium. Florida St. coming to HS? That would be a major event.

    Also, schedule WSU as an OOC and you still maintain all the usual regional rivalries.

    Getting to a B1G that includes Oregon and the Cali schools maintains everything Dawg fans have ever cared about in the historical Pac combined with exponentially bigger national upside.

    If you want UW to compete with the Seahawks in the Seattle market, this is what would do it.

    This would light a massive fire under the UW fan base and bring passionate visiting fanbases to Husky Stadium. This is everything a true Dawg fan has ever wanted.

    Aside from being the obvious best fit for the B1G in all aspects, the MSU game opened their eyes a bit on the value it would bring their conference to get Seattle with a competitive team.
    UW would pull a Gonzaga and alternate between the pea patch and the Clink.

    No thanks.

    WSU will do better with going to the likes of Auburn and Oklahoma State.
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    haie said:

    UW getting in the B1G would be the biggest thing since the 1991 Natty.

    This would put UW in a very desirable spot and increase national exposure by a factor we have never sniffed before.

    Even having Minnesota, Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland in Husky Stadium is significantly more interesting than UA, ASU, Utah, etc.

    That's millions of more eyeballs on the "greatest setting" every saturday than ever before. Forget about having tOSU, Michigan, Penn St. in the stadium. Florida St. coming to HS? That would be a major event.

    Also, schedule WSU as an OOC and you still maintain all the usual regional rivalries.

    Getting to a B1G that includes Oregon and the Cali schools maintains everything Dawg fans have ever cared about in the historical Pac combined with exponentially bigger national upside.

    If you want UW to compete with the Seahawks in the Seattle market, this is what would do it.

    This would light a massive fire under the UW fan base and bring passionate visiting fanbases to Husky Stadium. This is everything a true Dawg fan has ever wanted.

    Aside from being the obvious best fit for the B1G in all aspects, the MSU game opened their eyes a bit on the value it would bring their conference to get Seattle with a competitive team.
    Husky fans treated that MSU game like the fucking super bowl. Plenty of camera shots of MSU fans looking depressed and bewildered. Stadium gets rocking, it looks great, it's what TV wants. Exotic matchups.

    Iowa/Wisconsin/Minnesota fans will pack the visitor section. National TV would finally promote the shit out of UW football.

    The days of having lame ass ASU, Colorado, Cal, Oregon St., fan bases dominating your home slate are over.



    That’d been some grate gifskins. Sad!
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    SourcesSources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,837
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    haie said:

    UW getting in the B1G would be the biggest thing since the 1991 Natty.

    This would put UW in a very desirable spot and increase national exposure by a factor we have never sniffed before.

    Even having Minnesota, Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland in Husky Stadium is significantly more interesting than UA, ASU, Utah, etc.

    That's millions of more eyeballs on the "greatest setting" every saturday than ever before. Forget about having tOSU, Michigan, Penn St. in the stadium. Florida St. coming to HS? That would be a major event.

    Also, schedule WSU as an OOC and you still maintain all the usual regional rivalries.

    Getting to a B1G that includes Oregon and the Cali schools maintains everything Dawg fans have ever cared about in the historical Pac combined with exponentially bigger national upside.

    If you want UW to compete with the Seahawks in the Seattle market, this is what would do it.

    This would light a massive fire under the UW fan base and bring passionate visiting fanbases to Husky Stadium. This is everything a true Dawg fan has ever wanted.

    Aside from being the obvious best fit for the B1G in all aspects, the MSU game opened their eyes a bit on the value it would bring their conference to get Seattle with a competitive team.
    Husky fans treated that MSU game like the fucking super bowl. Plenty of camera shots of MSU fans looking depressed and bewildered. Stadium gets rocking, it looks great, it's what TV wants. Exotic matchups.

    Iowa/Wisconsin/Minnesota fans will pack the visitor section. National TV would finally promote the shit out of UW football.

    The days of having lame ass ASU, Colorado, Cal, Oregon St., fan bases dominating your home slate are over.



    That’d been some grate gifskins. Sad!
    Are you suggesting that Race has not done it again?
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    ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,518
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    haie said:

    UW getting in the B1G would be the biggest thing since the 1991 Natty.

    This would put UW in a very desirable spot and increase national exposure by a factor we have never sniffed before.

    Even having Minnesota, Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland in Husky Stadium is significantly more interesting than UA, ASU, Utah, etc.

    That's millions of more eyeballs on the "greatest setting" every saturday than ever before. Forget about having tOSU, Michigan, Penn St. in the stadium. Florida St. coming to HS? That would be a major event.

    Also, schedule WSU as an OOC and you still maintain all the usual regional rivalries.

    Getting to a B1G that includes Oregon and the Cali schools maintains everything Dawg fans have ever cared about in the historical Pac combined with exponentially bigger national upside.

    If you want UW to compete with the Seahawks in the Seattle market, this is what would do it.

    This would light a massive fire under the UW fan base and bring passionate visiting fanbases to Husky Stadium. This is everything a true Dawg fan has ever wanted.

    Aside from being the obvious best fit for the B1G in all aspects, the MSU game opened their eyes a bit on the value it would bring their conference to get Seattle with a competitive team.
    Husky fans treated that MSU game like the fucking super bowl. Plenty of camera shots of MSU fans looking depressed and bewildered. Stadium gets rocking, it looks great, it's what TV wants. Exotic matchups.

    Iowa/Wisconsin/Minnesota fans will pack the visitor section. National TV would finally promote the shit out of UW football.

    The days of having lame ass ASU, Colorado, Cal, Oregon St., fan bases dominating your home slate are over.
    Tickets at ucla for the traditional big ten teams who never/rarely make the rose bowl (Indiana, Minnesota, Illinois, Purdue, msu, etc) are going to be insane that first visit. Visitors will bring 40k+ easily
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    MelloDawgMelloDawg Member Posts: 6,216
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    UW getting in the B1G would be the biggest thing since the 1991 Natty.

    This would put UW in a very desirable spot and increase national exposure by a factor we have never sniffed before.

    Even having Minnesota, Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland in Husky Stadium is significantly more interesting than UA, ASU, Utah, etc.

    That's millions of more eyeballs on the "greatest setting" every saturday than ever before. Forget about having tOSU, Michigan, Penn St. in the stadium. Florida St. coming to HS? That would be a major event.

    Also, schedule WSU as an OOC and you still maintain all the usual regional rivalries.

    Getting to a B1G that includes Oregon and the Cali schools maintains everything Dawg fans have ever cared about in the historical Pac combined with exponentially bigger national upside.

    If you want UW to compete with the Seahawks in the Seattle market, this is what would do it.

    This would light a massive fire under the UW fan base and bring passionate visiting fanbases to Husky Stadium. This is everything a true Dawg fan has ever wanted.

    I think if you could get Minnesota, it would be even better.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,287
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    MelloDawg said:

    UW getting in the B1G would be the biggest thing since the 1991 Natty.

    This would put UW in a very desirable spot and increase national exposure by a factor we have never sniffed before.

    Even having Minnesota, Iowa, Minnesota, Maryland in Husky Stadium is significantly more interesting than UA, ASU, Utah, etc.

    That's millions of more eyeballs on the "greatest setting" every saturday than ever before. Forget about having tOSU, Michigan, Penn St. in the stadium. Florida St. coming to HS? That would be a major event.

    Also, schedule WSU as an OOC and you still maintain all the usual regional rivalries.

    Getting to a B1G that includes Oregon and the Cali schools maintains everything Dawg fans have ever cared about in the historical Pac combined with exponentially bigger national upside.

    If you want UW to compete with the Seahawks in the Seattle market, this is what would do it.

    This would light a massive fire under the UW fan base and bring passionate visiting fanbases to Husky Stadium. This is everything a true Dawg fan has ever wanted.

    I think if you could get Minnesota, it would be even better.
    Especially if Brian Kelly was their coach. Or Brian Kelly
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