DeBoer on UW recruiting and NIL
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Tequilla said:
Reading this just makes me laugh when those tied into UW NIL were busy telling me how wrong I was when I was calling out how behind the curve UW’s NIL efforts have been
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Jen assured me it’s not her fault in any way and that her hands are tied.
Then she asked me for money. LOL -
I bet her hands are tied…MakaDawg said:Jen assured me it’s not her fault in any way and that her hands are tied.
Then she asked me for money. LOL -
Step 1: Move to the B1G
Step 2: Tell athletic department to pay its own bills with the increased media check and therefore don't ask the boosters for shit
Step 3: Have CKD issue an ultimatum on the importance of a fully-funded NIL slush fund
Step 4: Let the boosters — big and small — decide how much they value football success at UW
Step 5: Profit!! -
Texas, USC, Texas A&M, Florida, Florida State, TennesseeAtomicDawg said:
Plenty of schools do both. It's up to the fan base, admin and big dick boosters to decide how much they care. It's not an either or. Bama has been paying their players well for years before this.Canadawg said:
I think the mentality of someone who values development over a few bucks is the big kicker. Especially in football where you have to be very committed to hurting yourself to make plays.1to392831weretaken said:Development vs. transaction might win a small fraction of battles against schools that are poor at the former. Particularly (like you saw a lot with Petersen) with kids that already come from money. The problem is there there are plenty of "schools" out there at which a kid can get both. The NFL draft is littered with players that drove shockingly nice cars while "going to school," and this predates NIL by a long ways.
Something to be said for having guys that won't transfer out when the check is delayed
All top 10ish recruiting programs that haven't accomplished anything with it in many recruiting cycles. Obviously highschool talent means something but the even the best cars need good tires -
No ... it actually didhaie said:Tequilla said:Reading this just makes me laugh when those tied into UW NIL were busy telling me how wrong I was when I was calling out how behind the curve UW’s NIL efforts have been
There's a former UW swimmer turned lawyer that is heavily involved in the NIL stuff ... regularly told me on Twitter that I was mistaken when I talked about how behind the curve UW NIL stuff was
That's ok though ... wouldn't expect you to do anything other than try to discredit anything I say at every turn -
The cleanest way for UW to become more competitive in the NIL world is exactly what you noted with Step 2 ... the Athletic Department needs to be self funding without begging for support from donations, etc.Geevis_and_Butthead said:Step 1: Move to the B1G
Step 2: Tell athletic department to pay its own bills with the increased media check and therefore don't ask the boosters for shit
Step 3: Have CKD issue an ultimatum on the importance of a fully-funded NIL slush fund
Step 4: Let the boosters — big and small — decide how much they value football success at UW
Step 5: Profit!!
Do that and the donations that they receive today can be "repurposed" to NIL -
Tennessee just finished 6th in both polls, beating Bama, Clempson, and LSU. One of their losses was a close(ish) one to the champs. I don't think they belong on your list. The rest of your list are very similar schools that don't support a counterargument in the way you think they do. I don't think anybody's arguing development vs. recruiting rankings, which is what I think you're getting caught up in. What's being said is that there are schools that do BOTH. You can't argue that Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, etc. don't develop players. The NFL draft suggests that they develop players just fine. They also pay them and have for as long as I've been following the game.Canadawg said:
Texas, USC, Texas A&M, Florida, Florida State, TennesseeAtomicDawg said:
Plenty of schools do both. It's up to the fan base, admin and big dick boosters to decide how much they care. It's not an either or. Bama has been paying their players well for years before this.Canadawg said:
I think the mentality of someone who values development over a few bucks is the big kicker. Especially in football where you have to be very committed to hurting yourself to make plays.1to392831weretaken said:Development vs. transaction might win a small fraction of battles against schools that are poor at the former. Particularly (like you saw a lot with Petersen) with kids that already come from money. The problem is there there are plenty of "schools" out there at which a kid can get both. The NFL draft is littered with players that drove shockingly nice cars while "going to school," and this predates NIL by a long ways.
Something to be said for having guys that won't transfer out when the check is delayed
All top 10ish recruiting programs that haven't accomplished anything with it in many recruiting cycles. Obviously highschool talent means something but the even the best cars need good tires
So nobody is going to argue about schools that chase recruiting rankings and don't develop like most of the schools in your list. The question is how UW goes about not losing a QB or hometown future AA receiver to Ohio State or a California AA tight end to Georgia. Because you're not going to make a "we'll get you in the NFL" argument that's going to win a kid over when any of those schools are an option. -
DeBoer won't stick around for a continued "slow climb" or if he's repeatedly losing recruits to schools specifically due to UW's funding issues for NIL
Won't be good If UW hasn't made any move toward the Big Ten by the end of the season
