Could Seattle be sellers at the MLB deadline?
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My guess is they will do the "We are buyers and sellers" thing.
I doubt they are dealing any starting pitcher for prospects though. If any of them are dealt it will be for major league offense. -
I agree, a starting pitcher for offense maybe, might see a reliever or two for prospects, obviously most likely none of the above, just thinking these things might happen…
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They're a middling team. I doubt they do anything of note at the deadline. Maybe they fire Servais.
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I'm all in on sell mode. Burn it down.
Not exactly, but the core they thought they were building around has fizzled and revealed itself to be mediocre. I wouldn't unload all of it, but two positions desperately need to be upgraded and I'd trade from others to make that happen.
First base is obvious. I thought France would be a consistent . 280-.305 type of hitter with 20 homers...Edgar lite basically. Nope. He needs to go. Too bad he's too unathletic as he would be a stellar utility infielder if only he didn't suck at playing infield.
2nd base is obvious.
RF will be a need for next season too as Teoscar is either getting traded or leaving as a FA.
Murphy has pretty damn good value right now in a sellers market. He's too good to trade if you're contending but Seattle is not.
Gilbert, Kirby, and one of Woo and Miller are all untouchable. I'm keeping one of Miller and Woo, but would part with one for the right offer. Gotta be willing to give up something.
I'd package him with Hancock and a lower level prospect to get someone at either first or 2b. -
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Kicked a water cooler lol.dnc said:
I like a guy willing to make sacrifices to blow off a little steam. I can relate. I once kicked the ground after booting a grounder in a men's slow pitch game, aggravating a torn ACL and causing a "bucket handle" meniscus tear which required a scope job to get my mobility back. Felt like a damn genius. -
They should sell. They are not making the playoffs.
The Mariners are good at finding relievers. See what you can get for Sewald, and one of Brash/Munoz. Young, cheap elite strikeout arms in the bullpen are valuable to a lot of playoff teams. Flip Teoscar for whatever we can get. Flip a starter for a bat.
Just get better hitters, preferably with an emphasis on putting the ball in play. We have too many high strikeout players. I’m not sure what the advanced stats say, but good things happen more often when the ball is put in play. The high strikeout guys don’t even walk much either (Suarez the only one that is arguable). -
The worst you can do is to have light hitting guys like France, and this year's Julio, striking out a ton. If you can't hit for power you'd better be getting in base a lot and having consistently good ABs. These guys have lost their fucking minds flailing at breaking balls down and away. France is actually lunging at the plate, from his already crowded stance, in anticipation of sliders low and away. Now he can't hit anything middle in. Has anyone mentioned to him that he's not supposed to hit down and away sliders in the first place? JFC it's pathetic.RoadDawg55 said:They should sell. They are not making the playoffs.
The Mariners are good at finding relievers. See what you can get for Sewald, and one of Brash/Munoz. Young, cheap elite strikeout arms in the bullpen are valuable to a lot of playoff teams. Flip Teoscar for whatever we can get. Flip a starter for a bat.
Just get better hitters, preferably with an emphasis on putting the ball in play. We have too many high strikeout players. I’m not sure what the advanced stats say, but good things happen more often when the ball is put in play. The high strikeout guys don’t even walk much either (Suarez the only one that is arguable).
I'm fine with trading bullpen arms and I'd be willing to trade one starter not named Gilbert or Kirby. They don't need to go crazy though. Keep most of the pitching somehow, upgrade at first and second and get a new right fielder and that would suffice. -
France has been terrible this year, but he isn’t even one of the high strikeout guys I was talking about. Julio, Kelenic, Suarez, and Hernandez are the middle of the order guys with too high of strikeout rates. Like you said, the power and on base skills haven’t been anything special either.chuck said:
The worst you can do is to have light hitting guys like France, and this year's Julio, striking out a ton. If you can't hit for power you'd better be getting in base a lot and having consistently good ABs. These guys have lost their fucking minds flailing at breaking balls down and away. France is actually lunging at the plate, from his already crowded stance, in anticipation of sliders low and away. Now he can't hit anything middle in. Has anyone mentioned to him that he's not supposed to hit down and away sliders in the first place? JFC it's pathetic.RoadDawg55 said:They should sell. They are not making the playoffs.
The Mariners are good at finding relievers. See what you can get for Sewald, and one of Brash/Munoz. Young, cheap elite strikeout arms in the bullpen are valuable to a lot of playoff teams. Flip Teoscar for whatever we can get. Flip a starter for a bat.
Just get better hitters, preferably with an emphasis on putting the ball in play. We have too many high strikeout players. I’m not sure what the advanced stats say, but good things happen more often when the ball is put in play. The high strikeout guys don’t even walk much either (Suarez the only one that is arguable).
I'm fine with trading bullpen arms and I'd be willing to trade one starter not named Gilbert or Kirby. They don't need to go crazy though. Keep most of the pitching somehow, upgrade at first and second and get a new right fielder and that would suffice. -
Normally no, and he's at about 20% on the season, but his last 21 days and especially the last two weeks are ugly. At least the guys you mentioned have had some production, take some walks, and hit for some power when they hit. France is showing that this kind of slump is part of his makeup and it's just not acceptable.RoadDawg55 said:
France has been terrible this year, but he isn’t even one of the high strikeout guys I was talking about. Julio, Kelenic, Suarez, and Hernandez are the middle of the order guys with too high of strikeout rates. Like you said, the power and on base skills haven’t been anything special either.chuck said:
The worst you can do is to have light hitting guys like France, and this year's Julio, striking out a ton. If you can't hit for power you'd better be getting in base a lot and having consistently good ABs. These guys have lost their fucking minds flailing at breaking balls down and away. France is actually lunging at the plate, from his already crowded stance, in anticipation of sliders low and away. Now he can't hit anything middle in. Has anyone mentioned to him that he's not supposed to hit down and away sliders in the first place? JFC it's pathetic.RoadDawg55 said:They should sell. They are not making the playoffs.
The Mariners are good at finding relievers. See what you can get for Sewald, and one of Brash/Munoz. Young, cheap elite strikeout arms in the bullpen are valuable to a lot of playoff teams. Flip Teoscar for whatever we can get. Flip a starter for a bat.
Just get better hitters, preferably with an emphasis on putting the ball in play. We have too many high strikeout players. I’m not sure what the advanced stats say, but good things happen more often when the ball is put in play. The high strikeout guys don’t even walk much either (Suarez the only one that is arguable).
I'm fine with trading bullpen arms and I'd be willing to trade one starter not named Gilbert or Kirby. They don't need to go crazy though. Keep most of the pitching somehow, upgrade at first and second and get a new right fielder and that would suffice.
Maybe I'm just pissy because he's killing my fantasy team.
