4 Mariner Draft picks on day 1
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Best draft I’ve seen in a while… lots of talent even if it is super young…
This bodes well if the team is willing and wanting to take on payroll ASAP to flesh this out -
Fuck the draft. Sign Ohtani and win now. MLB prospects wash out at the highest rate of any sport.
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Good franchises draft well. Of course sign Ohtani too.BleachedAnusDawg said:Fuck the draft. Sign Ohtani and win now. MLB prospects wash out at the highest rate of any sport.
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dnc said:
Aidan Smith in the 4th gives them 4 high schoolers, not sure I can remember them taking so many so high. Certainly not since the bonus pools were implemented. Teddy McGraw's a really interesting 3rd rounder too as a first round talent battling injuries.
I like this draft a lot. We'll see if they can develop these HS bats.
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Only team in MLB to never get to the World Series. 46th season as a franchise. Trying to sell M's fans on their great draft is an insult. They need to open up their wallets and buy a championship. No one cares about the draft in MLB other than the baseball super nerds because 81% of the players drafted either wash out or are traded.dnc said:
Good franchises draft well. Of course sign Ohtani too.BleachedAnusDawg said:Fuck the draft. Sign Ohtani and win now. MLB prospects wash out at the highest rate of any sport.
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I don't feel anyone is "selling" the draft. It just happens and some of us have no lives so we follow for entertainment purposes.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Only team in MLB to never get to the World Series. 46th season as a franchise. Trying to sell M's fans on their great draft is an insult. They need to open up their wallets and buy a championship. No one cares about the draft in MLB other than the baseball super nerds because 81% of the players drafted either wash out or are traded.dnc said:
Good franchises draft well. Of course sign Ohtani too.BleachedAnusDawg said:Fuck the draft. Sign Ohtani and win now. MLB prospects wash out at the highest rate of any sport.
Abundance.
The Astros and Braves haven't bought their championship teams. They developed them for the most part. The teams that overspent this off-season aren't faring well as a rule.
Gotta do both, draft and develop plus be willing to spend in the right situation. I didn't think so before, but I am coming around to the idea of paying Ohtani $60 million+ per season. I didn't want to see them turn into the Angels, with a superstar or two surrounded by a losing roster. Now I think it would pay for itself and not necessarily freeze up the whole salary budget. -
I guess I still have issues with Ohtani commanding 600 mil over 10 years. No way on earth he keeps up this pace, where he's two great players in one, for 10 years. Eventually he's just going to be a DH.
How many years until that becomes reality? The return on investment would be there on and off the field for a while for sure. Would they still be getting acceptable ROI in the back half or are you accepting a few years of the franchise being hamstrung in exchange for 5 or so glory years?
I'm leaning toward yes, as long as his bat doesn't fall off a bunch. Thinking about it still makes me glad they didn't tie themselves down with Trea Turner or Xander Bogarts for the next 10 years. 10 year deals are shit for guys at or near 30 years old. -
If Ohtani brings a title to Seattle he's worth the money. Doesn't matter what the last 3-4 years look like. By that point they have an updated media deal, etc and his contract is a smaller percentage of revenue, etc.
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I think the M's see themselves more as an analytics-driven Tampa Bay type franchise than big-spending teams who are more comfortable spending oodles of money on 1 player.chuck said:I guess I still have issues with Ohtani commanding 600 mil over 10 years. No way on earth he keeps up this pace, where he's two great players in one, for 10 years. Eventually he's just going to be a DH.
How many years until that becomes reality? The return on investment would be there on and off the field for a while for sure. Would they still be getting acceptable ROI in the back half or are you accepting a few years of the franchise being hamstrung in exchange for 5 or so glory years?
I'm leaning toward yes, as long as his bat doesn't fall off a bunch. Thinking about it still makes me glad they didn't tie themselves down with Trea Turner or Xander Bogarts for the next 10 years. 10 year deals are shit for guys at or near 30 years old.
If anything, I don't see them tying up that much money for so long. Maybe the M's offer a 6 year, $450 million deal instead of going out 4 more years and $150 million more. No matter what, I'm sure the M's will make a decent run but will be outbid by one of the LA teams, SD, SF, or even East Coast teams like Boston / NYY / NYM.
Regarding other positions, they still need to figure out how to upgrade 2B, if they are going to resign T. Hernandez, if Kelenic is the medium / long-term answer in LF (or RF), what their plan is for DH. The starting rotation should be good because of Woo, Miller, and Hancock offering some innings in 2024 while Ray will be coming back at some point during 2024 so Othani doesn't offer as much bang for the buck as a pitching desperate team. -
I actually think they might be willing to go big for Ohtani. Ichiro mania was a real thing, and profitable, and this guy is in another stratosphere.HFNY said:
I think the M's see themselves more as an analytics-driven Tampa Bay type franchise than big-spending teams who are more comfortable spending oodles of money on 1 player.chuck said:I guess I still have issues with Ohtani commanding 600 mil over 10 years. No way on earth he keeps up this pace, where he's two great players in one, for 10 years. Eventually he's just going to be a DH.
How many years until that becomes reality? The return on investment would be there on and off the field for a while for sure. Would they still be getting acceptable ROI in the back half or are you accepting a few years of the franchise being hamstrung in exchange for 5 or so glory years?
I'm leaning toward yes, as long as his bat doesn't fall off a bunch. Thinking about it still makes me glad they didn't tie themselves down with Trea Turner or Xander Bogarts for the next 10 years. 10 year deals are shit for guys at or near 30 years old.
If anything, I don't see them tying up that much money for so long. Maybe the M's offer a 6 year, $450 million deal instead of going out 4 more years and $150 million more. No matter what, I'm sure the M's will make a decent run but will be outbid by one of the LA teams, SD, SF, or even East Coast teams like Boston / NYY / NYM.
Regarding other positions, they still need to figure out how to upgrade 2B, if they are going to resign T. Hernandez, if Kelenic is the medium / long-term answer in LF (or RF), what their plan is for DH. The starting rotation should be good because of Woo, Miller, and Hancock offering some innings in 2024 while Ray will be coming back at some point during 2024 so Othani doesn't offer as much bang for the buck as a pitching desperate team.
If the Angels keep fading and the Ms keep playing well, and there are trade talks, it's a sure sign that Seattle thinks they're going to sign him. They wouldn't bother trying to trade for him otherwise.
