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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,231
    edited June 2023
    WoolleyDoog said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Winning via the portal will be much easier to do in college hoops where 1-2 players can change the entire team. Recruiting will still matter in CFB. How many players has UW gotten through the portal thus far? 20? Penix is the only one who's made a difference from what I can tell. Portal should be used for building depth, particularly for rebuild jobs with new coaches.

    Ja'Lynn Polk is the only other good portal guy they've gotten. Generally, if a player is in the portal they've been at a school for a year or two and haven't made an impact (see guys transferring out of UW). It's rare to see the guys like Jordan Addison who USC got who had won the Biletnkoff or a Christian Gonzalez who was a first round athlete who was just on a terrible school looking to upgrade.

    Also, once these guys get into the portal, isn't UW just going to get outbid in NIL money again anyway?
    One thing that was very noticeable this year—the legit portal guys were all in there early and mostly gone by signing day in early February. You’ve got to be all over the portal from Dec-Jan…once February hits there are very slim pickings left. Teams that were relying on filling out their roster post-spring camp (coach prime) got stuck taking a bunch of dead wood
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,440 Founders Club
    WoolleyDoog said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Winning via the portal will be much easier to do in college hoops where 1-2 players can change the entire team. Recruiting will still matter in CFB. How many players has UW gotten through the portal thus far? 20? Penix is the only one who's made a difference from what I can tell. Portal should be used for building depth, particularly for rebuild jobs with new coaches.

    Ja'Lynn Polk is the only other good portal guy they've gotten. Generally, if a player is in the portal they've been at a school for a year or two and haven't made an impact (see guys transferring out of UW). It's rare to see the guys like Jordan Addison who USC got who had won the Biletnkoff or a Christian Gonzalez who was a first round athlete who was just on a terrible school looking to upgrade.

    Also, once these guys get into the portal, isn't UW just going to get outbid in NIL money again anyway?
    I'm just numb to the 8 months of shitting pants over not having "lit" weekends in June and then when it's all said and done they're top 25 classes with solid transfer pickups. Polk hadn't done anything at Texas Tech. Slow footed Virginia running back comes in and pumps Kwiatkowski with blue chips.

    Jimmy Lake is the only real exception to that rule.

    It's dooging, but even with the ASU running back I trust the coaches.
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,440 Founders Club
    edited June 2023
    ntxduck said:

    WoolleyDoog said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Winning via the portal will be much easier to do in college hoops where 1-2 players can change the entire team. Recruiting will still matter in CFB. How many players has UW gotten through the portal thus far? 20? Penix is the only one who's made a difference from what I can tell. Portal should be used for building depth, particularly for rebuild jobs with new coaches.

    Ja'Lynn Polk is the only other good portal guy they've gotten. Generally, if a player is in the portal they've been at a school for a year or two and haven't made an impact (see guys transferring out of UW). It's rare to see the guys like Jordan Addison who USC got who had won the Biletnkoff or a Christian Gonzalez who was a first round athlete who was just on a terrible school looking to upgrade.

    Also, once these guys get into the portal, isn't UW just going to get outbid in NIL money again anyway?
    One thing that was very noticeable this year—the legit portal guys were all in there early and mostly gone by signing day in early February. You’ve got to be all over the portal from Dec-Jan…once February hits there are very slim pickings left. Teams that were relying on filling out their roster post-spring camp (coach prime) got stuck taking a bunch of dead wood
    Who is a legit portal guy? Proven talent that got in trouble at his first school?

    It's all just random talent acquisition at this point. The fan knows even less than the clueless neck beard 247 guy now.

    Cooper Petagna saying, "Yeah, coaches will take a kid they know sucks because others think they're good just to bump their class rating" shows how fucking retarded this all is.

    Have an elite system and identify culture fit and guys who will play a role at a high level.
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  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,744
    Penix, Towelpopper, and Polk. I like picking up Muhamedachbar, Miss St RB, and My Mersonarie GoForth... The portal is good at finding niche players that a arent all around world beaters but fill a role that is needed, for example a RB that can pass pro and catch out of backfield versus a homerun threat 5* that everyone wants. All I know is that DeBoner is finding discreet ways to skull fuck guys like Lanning and Sark, some of it is obvious to the common fan and some is not. I guarantee that oner is finding a way to stop Bo Nix's other ankle right now
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  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,896
    dannarc said:

    Penix, Towelpopper, and Polk. I like picking up Muhamedachbar, Miss St RB, and My Mersonarie GoForth... The portal is good at finding niche players that a arent all around world beaters but fill a role that is needed, for example a RB that can pass pro and catch out of backfield versus a homerun threat 5* that everyone wants. All I know is that DeBoner is finding discreet ways to skull fuck guys like Lanning and Sark, some of it is obvious to the common fan and some is not. I guarantee that oner is finding a way to stop Bo Nix's other ankle right now

    I believe deboer is smart enough to know exactly what he wants and what will work. Turning towelpopper into a highly productive back is a good sign to me.

    The portal is a big boon to guys that can evaluate well. Not just guys who stack bodies.
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  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,896
    dannarc said:

    Penix, Towelpopper, and Polk. I like picking up Muhamedachbar, Miss St RB, and My Mersonarie GoForth... The portal is good at finding niche players that a arent all around world beaters but fill a role that is needed, for example a RB that can pass pro and catch out of backfield versus a homerun threat 5* that everyone wants. All I know is that DeBoner is finding discreet ways to skull fuck guys like Lanning and Sark, some of it is obvious to the common fan and some is not. I guarantee that oner is finding a way to stop Bo Nix's other ankle right now

    The other part is keeping a legit team culture and getting new guys integrated and coached up.

    It’s going to be interesting to see the portal era dumpster fires around the country. I think deboer is good enough to actually run a strong program in this environment.
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,231
    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    WoolleyDoog said:

    BleachedAnusDawg said:

    Winning via the portal will be much easier to do in college hoops where 1-2 players can change the entire team. Recruiting will still matter in CFB. How many players has UW gotten through the portal thus far? 20? Penix is the only one who's made a difference from what I can tell. Portal should be used for building depth, particularly for rebuild jobs with new coaches.

    Ja'Lynn Polk is the only other good portal guy they've gotten. Generally, if a player is in the portal they've been at a school for a year or two and haven't made an impact (see guys transferring out of UW). It's rare to see the guys like Jordan Addison who USC got who had won the Biletnkoff or a Christian Gonzalez who was a first round athlete who was just on a terrible school looking to upgrade.

    Also, once these guys get into the portal, isn't UW just going to get outbid in NIL money again anyway?
    One thing that was very noticeable this year—the legit portal guys were all in there early and mostly gone by signing day in early February. You’ve got to be all over the portal from Dec-Jan…once February hits there are very slim pickings left. Teams that were relying on filling out their roster post-spring camp (coach prime) got stuck taking a bunch of dead wood
    Who is a legit portal guy? Proven talent that got in trouble at his first school?

    It's all just random talent acquisition at this point. The fan knows even less than the clueless neck beard 247 guy now.

    Cooper Petagna saying, "Yeah, coaches will take a kid they know sucks because others think they're good just to bump their class rating" shows how fucking retarded this all is.

    Have an elite system and identify culture fit and guys who will play a role at a high level.
    Legit portal guys are a mix of super talented players from smaller schools that want to improve their nfl prospects, players looking to get out after a coaching change (or a qb change for wrs, where a good qb leaves And there’s no one left to get them the ball), or players who want to go win a title.

    If you look at the top 10 transfers on 247, 8/10 fit the above criteria. The #10 guy who went from Bama to Miami fits yours. Devin Leary, I have no idea why he transferred. Was the starter at nc state last year until he got hurt. Kentucky is sec (in name only) but their offense is historically terrible, so it’s not really an upgrade for him. Maybe he saw Levis play like absolute dog shit and still be a projected first round pick and thought that was enviable.
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