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  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,506
    So this week and next week are supposed to be our "big recruiting weekends". We've already had like 8 kids cancel their visits and/or commit to other schools. It's also looking like we're going to be battling it out with schools like Oregon State and Wazzu for commits
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    NEsnake12 said:

    Kingston Lopa, one of the 4* prospects who was supposed to officially visit UW next weekend, committed to Oregon on his visit there this weekend. Couldn't even get him to wait a week, yikes

    Money talks, and we? aren't handing bags out to HS kids (is what I'm hearing).
    LOL....................it's always the money excuse.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,169 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Kingston Lopa, one of the 4* prospects who was supposed to officially visit UW next weekend, committed to Oregon on his visit there this weekend. Couldn't even get him to wait a week, yikes

    Money talks, and we? aren't handing bags out to HS kids (is what I'm hearing).
    LOL....................it's always the money excuse.
    What's the Oregon excuse for doing less with more every year?
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club
    46XiJCAB said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Kingston Lopa, one of the 4* prospects who was supposed to officially visit UW next weekend, committed to Oregon on his visit there this weekend. Couldn't even get him to wait a week, yikes

    Money talks, and we? aren't handing bags out to HS kids (is what I'm hearing).
    LOL....................it's always the money excuse.
    Money "excuse"?

    You are legitimately unintelligent.

    Vancouver Jack Duck that drives down to Eugene for their surplus sale but can't afford to go to their games.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,506
    edited June 2023
    NEsnake12 said:
    Maybe scheduling our "big recruiting weekend" way after everyone else was a fucking stupid thing to do.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,506
    In today's recruiting news:
    -yet another visitor has cancelled (this one is a 3* white edge player so many won't be that broken up)
    -we actually got a crystal dong for a guy who has decent offers - LB Khmori House. Plays at Bosco, 4* on rivals, high 3* composite, offers from Texas, Auburn, and a few others
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,169 Standard Supporter

    What I'm hearing:

    People, remember, this is just DeBoer's 2nd recruiting class here. And more importantly, it's just his 2nd recruiting class at the Power-5 level. These 4* recruits still know VERY LITTLE about him or our staff. Patience is a HARD thing to collar in today's society, but just as it is with any new coach at this level, it will still take him/his staff 3 years to get a firm foothold on the west coast.

    Buckle up, as I have a very strong feeling it will be a fun ride in the end!

    NO, I am NOT the "Recruiting Police", just a fan like everyone else. I don't care of you're fretting or not, that's your business :-)

    I'm assuming this is another Kim shit-post. Wasn't he totally trashing DeBoer being hired because he wouldn't be able to recruit? Now he's preaching patience and he just needs more tim...
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330

    What I'm hearing:

    People, remember, this is just DeBoer's 2nd recruiting class here. And more importantly, it's just his 2nd recruiting class at the Power-5 level. These 4* recruits still know VERY LITTLE about him or our staff. Patience is a HARD thing to collar in today's society, but just as it is with any new coach at this level, it will still take him/his staff 3 years to get a firm foothold on the west coast.

    Buckle up, as I have a very strong feeling it will be a fun ride in the end!

    NO, I am NOT the "Recruiting Police", just a fan like everyone else. I don't care of you're fretting or not, that's your business :-)

    Every other new coach can recruit in year 2. Fucking Arizona is recruiting. But uw coming off of an 11-2 season can't do it because it's hard. Kids are not even coming to campus.

    This has me more concerned kdb will jump ship if they have a good season because he sees the pipeline of talent being pretty rough the next couple of years. It's his own fault but still.

    Some programs wouldnt touch him because he is definitely sucking in recruiting, but a mid tier big 10 or sec school could definitely come grab him and he wouldn't have to take responsibility for any major holes in the roster.

    Still time to turn it around, but it doesn't look promising.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,725 Founders Club

    What I'm hearing:

    People, remember, this is just DeBoer's 2nd recruiting class here. And more importantly, it's just his 2nd recruiting class at the Power-5 level. These 4* recruits still know VERY LITTLE about him or our staff. Patience is a HARD thing to collar in today's society, but just as it is with any new coach at this level, it will still take him/his staff 3 years to get a firm foothold on the west coast.

    Buckle up, as I have a very strong feeling it will be a fun ride in the end!

    NO, I am NOT the "Recruiting Police", just a fan like everyone else. I don't care of you're fretting or not, that's your business :-)

    Every other new coach can recruit in year 2. Fucking Arizona is recruiting. But uw coming off of an 11-2 season can't do it because it's hard. Kids are not even coming to campus.

    This has me more concerned kdb will jump ship if they have a good season because he sees the pipeline of talent being pretty rough the next couple of years. It's his own fault but still.

    Some programs wouldnt touch him because he is definitely sucking in recruiting, but a mid tier big 10 or sec school could definitely come grab him and he wouldn't have to take responsibility for any major holes in the roster.

    Still time to turn it around, but it doesn't look promising.
    People, remember, this is just DeBoer's 2nd recruiting class here. And more importantly, it's just his 2nd recruiting class at the Power-5 level. These 4* recruits still know VERY LITTLE about him or our staff. Patience is a HARD thing to collar in today's society, but just as it is with any new coach at this level, it will still take him/his staff 3 years to get a firm foothold on the west coast.

    Buckle up, as I have a very strong feeling it will be a fun ride in the end!

    NO, I am NOT the "Recruiting Police", just a fan like everyone else. I don't care of you're fretting or not, that's your business :-)
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,506

    What I'm hearing:

    People, remember, this is just DeBoer's 2nd recruiting class here. And more importantly, it's just his 2nd recruiting class at the Power-5 level. These 4* recruits still know VERY LITTLE about him or our staff. Patience is a HARD thing to collar in today's society, but just as it is with any new coach at this level, it will still take him/his staff 3 years to get a firm foothold on the west coast.

    Buckle up, as I have a very strong feeling it will be a fun ride in the end!

    NO, I am NOT the "Recruiting Police", just a fan like everyone else. I don't care of you're fretting or not, that's your business :-)

    I'm assuming this is another Kim shit-post. Wasn't he totally trashing DeBoer being hired because he wouldn't be able to recruit? Now he's preaching patience and he just needs more tim...
    It's not Kim, but one of the king doogs of UW message bored posting
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559
    Fuck...DeBoer had more success in year one, than any coach at UW in the last 5 seasons. His recruiting is not looking great this year, but he might not be a recruiting guy. He has a great offensive mind, and if he can continue to attract top flight QB and other key playmaker transfers, then I think UW is in the thick of it every year. Whittingham and Smith aren't recruiting juggernauts, but Whittingham has been a consistent winner, and Smith has turned the Oregon State program completely around.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam

    Fuck...DeBoer had more success in year one, than any coach at UW in the last 5 seasons. His recruiting is not looking great this year, but he might not be a recruiting guy. He has a great offensive mind, and if he can continue to attract top flight QB and other key playmaker transfers, then I think UW is in the thick of it every year. Whittingham and Smith aren't recruiting juggernauts, but Whittingham has been a consistent winner, and Smith has turned the Oregon State program completely around.

    Fair, but recruiting should be going better regardless and I'm with the guys who think it needs to be. Something isn't right. If there aren't about 12-14 silent commits showing up to visit and announce over the next week or so then it's probably because the sky is falling.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,169 Standard Supporter
    Aren't Brooks shoes based out of Seattle? Someone bake their owner a cake and convince them to be UW's "Uncle Phil." Recruiting will surely take off with this logo on all UW gear!


  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    What I'm hearing:

    People, remember, this is just DeBoer's 2nd recruiting class here. And more importantly, it's just his 2nd recruiting class at the Power-5 level. These 4* recruits still know VERY LITTLE about him or our staff. Patience is a HARD thing to collar in today's society, but just as it is with any new coach at this level, it will still take him/his staff 3 years to get a firm foothold on the west coast.

    Buckle up, as I have a very strong feeling it will be a fun ride in the end!

    NO, I am NOT the "Recruiting Police", just a fan like everyone else. I don't care of you're fretting or not, that's your business :-)

    Every other new coach can recruit in year 2. Fucking Arizona is recruiting. But uw coming off of an 11-2 season can't do it because it's hard. Kids are not even coming to campus.

    This has me more concerned kdb will jump ship if they have a good season because he sees the pipeline of talent being pretty rough the next couple of years. It's his own fault but still.

    Some programs wouldnt touch him because he is definitely sucking in recruiting, but a mid tier big 10 or sec school could definitely come grab him and he wouldn't have to take responsibility for any major holes in the roster.

    Still time to turn it around, but it doesn't look promising.
    I really do find it amusing to see the Doogs not see the direct relationship between lack of recruiting interest and a coach having one foot out the door ... it's not like that has NEVER happened in college football

    What I'd add with recruiting and the future of DeBoer at UW is that you can't undersell how much the uncertainty of where UW is going to end up with any kind of conference realignment is having on not only recruiting but DeBoer's future. If you're staying in a DOA PAC conference that backfills some programs that are leaving to make the conference even more watered down, you'd be an idiot as a coach to not evaluate all of your opportunities when they materialize.

    Another thing I haven't heard people talk about or consider is why is Arizona seemingly doing so great in recruiting ... is it because kids are buying what Jedd Fisch is selling more than what Kalen DeBoer is selling? I find that hard to believe. What I don't find hard to believe is that Arizona is one foot out the door to the Big12 and is able to sell their recruits on playing in the Big12. If you are a recruit and you're evaluating whether to choose playing in the Big12 with games that are going to be on actual TV versus playing in the PAC with games on streaming provider TBD with limited at best games on TV ... where are you choosing to play?

  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club
    edited June 2023
    Tequilla said:

    What I'm hearing:

    People, remember, this is just DeBoer's 2nd recruiting class here. And more importantly, it's just his 2nd recruiting class at the Power-5 level. These 4* recruits still know VERY LITTLE about him or our staff. Patience is a HARD thing to collar in today's society, but just as it is with any new coach at this level, it will still take him/his staff 3 years to get a firm foothold on the west coast.

    Buckle up, as I have a very strong feeling it will be a fun ride in the end!

    NO, I am NOT the "Recruiting Police", just a fan like everyone else. I don't care of you're fretting or not, that's your business :-)

    Every other new coach can recruit in year 2. Fucking Arizona is recruiting. But uw coming off of an 11-2 season can't do it because it's hard. Kids are not even coming to campus.

    This has me more concerned kdb will jump ship if they have a good season because he sees the pipeline of talent being pretty rough the next couple of years. It's his own fault but still.

    Some programs wouldnt touch him because he is definitely sucking in recruiting, but a mid tier big 10 or sec school could definitely come grab him and he wouldn't have to take responsibility for any major holes in the roster.

    Still time to turn it around, but it doesn't look promising.
    I really do find it amusing to see the Doogs not see the direct relationship between lack of recruiting interest and a coach having one foot out the door ... it's not like that has NEVER happened in college football

    What I'd add with recruiting and the future of DeBoer at UW is that you can't undersell how much the uncertainty of where UW is going to end up with any kind of conference realignment is having on not only recruiting but DeBoer's future. If you're staying in a DOA PAC conference that backfills some programs that are leaving to make the conference even more watered down, you'd be an idiot as a coach to not evaluate all of your opportunities when they materialize.

    Another thing I haven't heard people talk about or consider is why is Arizona seemingly doing so great in recruiting ... is it because kids are buying what Jedd Fisch is selling more than what Kalen DeBoer is selling? I find that hard to believe. What I don't find hard to believe is that Arizona is one foot out the door to the Big12 and is able to sell their recruits on playing in the Big12. If you are a recruit and you're evaluating whether to choose playing in the Big12 with games that are going to be on actual TV versus playing in the PAC with games on streaming provider TBD with limited at best games on TV ... where are you choosing to play?

    lol so you think that he didn't want the Purdue, Nebraska, MSU, etc jobs (UW barely even had to pay him more) but now all the sudden having 1 kid committed in June means he's leaving after this year?

    Fuck off with that.

    Enjoy the Big 12. YUGE ratings incoming watching TCU play Arizona and their used car salesman coach.

    Meanwhile steam for UW heading to the B1G is picking up.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    What I'm hearing:

    People, remember, this is just DeBoer's 2nd recruiting class here. And more importantly, it's just his 2nd recruiting class at the Power-5 level. These 4* recruits still know VERY LITTLE about him or our staff. Patience is a HARD thing to collar in today's society, but just as it is with any new coach at this level, it will still take him/his staff 3 years to get a firm foothold on the west coast.

    Buckle up, as I have a very strong feeling it will be a fun ride in the end!

    NO, I am NOT the "Recruiting Police", just a fan like everyone else. I don't care of you're fretting or not, that's your business :-)

    Every other new coach can recruit in year 2. Fucking Arizona is recruiting. But uw coming off of an 11-2 season can't do it because it's hard. Kids are not even coming to campus.

    This has me more concerned kdb will jump ship if they have a good season because he sees the pipeline of talent being pretty rough the next couple of years. It's his own fault but still.

    Some programs wouldnt touch him because he is definitely sucking in recruiting, but a mid tier big 10 or sec school could definitely come grab him and he wouldn't have to take responsibility for any major holes in the roster.

    Still time to turn it around, but it doesn't look promising.
    I really do find it amusing to see the Doogs not see the direct relationship between lack of recruiting interest and a coach having one foot out the door ... it's not like that has NEVER happened in college football

    What I'd add with recruiting and the future of DeBoer at UW is that you can't undersell how much the uncertainty of where UW is going to end up with any kind of conference realignment is having on not only recruiting but DeBoer's future. If you're staying in a DOA PAC conference that backfills some programs that are leaving to make the conference even more watered down, you'd be an idiot as a coach to not evaluate all of your opportunities when they materialize.

    Another thing I haven't heard people talk about or consider is why is Arizona seemingly doing so great in recruiting ... is it because kids are buying what Jedd Fisch is selling more than what Kalen DeBoer is selling? I find that hard to believe. What I don't find hard to believe is that Arizona is one foot out the door to the Big12 and is able to sell their recruits on playing in the Big12. If you are a recruit and you're evaluating whether to choose playing in the Big12 with games that are going to be on actual TV versus playing in the PAC with games on streaming provider TBD with limited at best games on TV ... where are you choosing to play?

    lol so you think that he didn't want the Purdue, Nebraska, MSU, etc jobs (UW barely even had to pay him more) but now all the sudden having 1 kid committed in June means he's leaving after this year?

    Fuck off with that.

    Enjoy the Big 12. YUGE ratings incoming watching TCU play Arizona and their used car salesman coach.

    Meanwhile steam for UW heading to the B1G is picking up.
    Is your picture next to the definition of an idiot?

    No coach is going to leave a roster set up to compete for a National Tittle run … you leave after you’ve proven that you can coach at that level and are able to have a better choice of job and money

    I’ve said from the beginning that the B10 always has been the logical landing spot for UW … I’ve also said that UW holds few cards in getting itself to that spot and that being dependent on what the B10 wants to do is not operating from a position of strength. I’ve also said that in the event that a B10 invite does not come that UW needs to act at whatever the next best option is and IMO that option isn’t whatever remains in the PAC

    Many are underestimating the damage that will come with UW remaining in the PAC … we all should hope that doesn’t materialize
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330
    edited June 2023
    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    What I'm hearing:

    People, remember, this is just DeBoer's 2nd recruiting class here. And more importantly, it's just his 2nd recruiting class at the Power-5 level. These 4* recruits still know VERY LITTLE about him or our staff. Patience is a HARD thing to collar in today's society, but just as it is with any new coach at this level, it will still take him/his staff 3 years to get a firm foothold on the west coast.

    Buckle up, as I have a very strong feeling it will be a fun ride in the end!

    NO, I am NOT the "Recruiting Police", just a fan like everyone else. I don't care of you're fretting or not, that's your business :-)

    Every other new coach can recruit in year 2. Fucking Arizona is recruiting. But uw coming off of an 11-2 season can't do it because it's hard. Kids are not even coming to campus.

    This has me more concerned kdb will jump ship if they have a good season because he sees the pipeline of talent being pretty rough the next couple of years. It's his own fault but still.

    Some programs wouldnt touch him because he is definitely sucking in recruiting, but a mid tier big 10 or sec school could definitely come grab him and he wouldn't have to take responsibility for any major holes in the roster.

    Still time to turn it around, but it doesn't look promising.
    I really do find it amusing to see the Doogs not see the direct relationship between lack of recruiting interest and a coach having one foot out the door ... it's not like that has NEVER happened in college football

    What I'd add with recruiting and the future of DeBoer at UW is that you can't undersell how much the uncertainty of where UW is going to end up with any kind of conference realignment is having on not only recruiting but DeBoer's future. If you're staying in a DOA PAC conference that backfills some programs that are leaving to make the conference even more watered down, you'd be an idiot as a coach to not evaluate all of your opportunities when they materialize.

    Another thing I haven't heard people talk about or consider is why is Arizona seemingly doing so great in recruiting ... is it because kids are buying what Jedd Fisch is selling more than what Kalen DeBoer is selling? I find that hard to believe. What I don't find hard to believe is that Arizona is one foot out the door to the Big12 and is able to sell their recruits on playing in the Big12. If you are a recruit and you're evaluating whether to choose playing in the Big12 with games that are going to be on actual TV versus playing in the PAC with games on streaming provider TBD with limited at best games on TV ... where are you choosing to play?

    lol so you think that he didn't want the Purdue, Nebraska, MSU, etc jobs (UW barely even had to pay him more) but now all the sudden having 1 kid committed in June means he's leaving after this year?

    Fuck off with that.

    Enjoy the Big 12. YUGE ratings incoming watching TCU play Arizona and their used car salesman coach.

    Meanwhile steam for UW heading to the B1G is picking up.
    Is your picture next to the definition of an idiot?

    No coach is going to leave a roster set up to compete for a National Tittle run … you leave after you’ve proven that you can coach at that level and are able to have a better choice of job and money

    I’ve said from the beginning that the B10 always has been the logical landing spot for UW … I’ve also said that UW holds few cards in getting itself to that spot and that being dependent on what the B10 wants to do is not operating from a position of strength. I’ve also said that in the event that a B10 invite does not come that UW needs to act at whatever the next best option is and IMO that option isn’t whatever remains in the PAC

    Many are underestimating the damage that will come with UW remaining in the PAC … we all should hope that doesn’t materialize
    Staying in the pac is not good. But acting like going to zona because of the big 12 I don't buy for a second.

    The lack of recruiting does feel very similar to when lake was here though. He had one foot out the door to the nfl but was exposed as a shitty coach prior.

    I am sure Jen is asleep at the wheel.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,114
    edited June 2023

    Fuck...DeBoer had more success in year one, than any coach at UW in the last 5 seasons. His recruiting is not looking great this year, but he might not be a recruiting guy. He has a great offensive mind, and if he can continue to attract top flight QB and other key playmaker transfers, then I think UW is in the thick of it every year. Whittingham and Smith aren't recruiting juggernauts, but Whittingham has been a consistent winner, and Smith has turned the Oregon State program completely around.

    Continue to attract top flight qb transfers? How many elite qbs with eligibility do you think played for him at Indiana and Fresno
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,114
    Tequilla said:

    What I'm hearing:

    People, remember, this is just DeBoer's 2nd recruiting class here. And more importantly, it's just his 2nd recruiting class at the Power-5 level. These 4* recruits still know VERY LITTLE about him or our staff. Patience is a HARD thing to collar in today's society, but just as it is with any new coach at this level, it will still take him/his staff 3 years to get a firm foothold on the west coast.

    Buckle up, as I have a very strong feeling it will be a fun ride in the end!

    NO, I am NOT the "Recruiting Police", just a fan like everyone else. I don't care of you're fretting or not, that's your business :-)

    Every other new coach can recruit in year 2. Fucking Arizona is recruiting. But uw coming off of an 11-2 season can't do it because it's hard. Kids are not even coming to campus.

    This has me more concerned kdb will jump ship if they have a good season because he sees the pipeline of talent being pretty rough the next couple of years. It's his own fault but still.

    Some programs wouldnt touch him because he is definitely sucking in recruiting, but a mid tier big 10 or sec school could definitely come grab him and he wouldn't have to take responsibility for any major holes in the roster.

    Still time to turn it around, but it doesn't look promising.
    I really do find it amusing to see the Doogs not see the direct relationship between lack of recruiting interest and a coach having one foot out the door ... it's not like that has NEVER happened in college football

    What I'd add with recruiting and the future of DeBoer at UW is that you can't undersell how much the uncertainty of where UW is going to end up with any kind of conference realignment is having on not only recruiting but DeBoer's future. If you're staying in a DOA PAC conference that backfills some programs that are leaving to make the conference even more watered down, you'd be an idiot as a coach to not evaluate all of your opportunities when they materialize.

    Another thing I haven't heard people talk about or consider is why is Arizona seemingly doing so great in recruiting ... is it because kids are buying what Jedd Fisch is selling more than what Kalen DeBoer is selling? I find that hard to believe. What I don't find hard to believe is that Arizona is one foot out the door to the Big12 and is able to sell their recruits on playing in the Big12. If you are a recruit and you're evaluating whether to choose playing in the Big12 with games that are going to be on actual TV versus playing in the PAC with games on streaming provider TBD with limited at best games on TV ... where are you choosing to play?

    This reads like mHiver fan fiction for Great Plains insurance salesmen
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    What I'm hearing:

    People, remember, this is just DeBoer's 2nd recruiting class here. And more importantly, it's just his 2nd recruiting class at the Power-5 level. These 4* recruits still know VERY LITTLE about him or our staff. Patience is a HARD thing to collar in today's society, but just as it is with any new coach at this level, it will still take him/his staff 3 years to get a firm foothold on the west coast.

    Buckle up, as I have a very strong feeling it will be a fun ride in the end!

    NO, I am NOT the "Recruiting Police", just a fan like everyone else. I don't care of you're fretting or not, that's your business :-)

    Every other new coach can recruit in year 2. Fucking Arizona is recruiting. But uw coming off of an 11-2 season can't do it because it's hard. Kids are not even coming to campus.

    This has me more concerned kdb will jump ship if they have a good season because he sees the pipeline of talent being pretty rough the next couple of years. It's his own fault but still.

    Some programs wouldnt touch him because he is definitely sucking in recruiting, but a mid tier big 10 or sec school could definitely come grab him and he wouldn't have to take responsibility for any major holes in the roster.

    Still time to turn it around, but it doesn't look promising.
    I really do find it amusing to see the Doogs not see the direct relationship between lack of recruiting interest and a coach having one foot out the door ... it's not like that has NEVER happened in college football

    What I'd add with recruiting and the future of DeBoer at UW is that you can't undersell how much the uncertainty of where UW is going to end up with any kind of conference realignment is having on not only recruiting but DeBoer's future. If you're staying in a DOA PAC conference that backfills some programs that are leaving to make the conference even more watered down, you'd be an idiot as a coach to not evaluate all of your opportunities when they materialize.

    Another thing I haven't heard people talk about or consider is why is Arizona seemingly doing so great in recruiting ... is it because kids are buying what Jedd Fisch is selling more than what Kalen DeBoer is selling? I find that hard to believe. What I don't find hard to believe is that Arizona is one foot out the door to the Big12 and is able to sell their recruits on playing in the Big12. If you are a recruit and you're evaluating whether to choose playing in the Big12 with games that are going to be on actual TV versus playing in the PAC with games on streaming provider TBD with limited at best games on TV ... where are you choosing to play?

    lol so you think that he didn't want the Purdue, Nebraska, MSU, etc jobs (UW barely even had to pay him more) but now all the sudden having 1 kid committed in June means he's leaving after this year?

    Fuck off with that.

    Enjoy the Big 12. YUGE ratings incoming watching TCU play Arizona and their used car salesman coach.

    Meanwhile steam for UW heading to the B1G is picking up.
    Is your picture next to the definition of an idiot?

    No coach is going to leave a roster set up to compete for a National Tittle run … you leave after you’ve proven that you can coach at that level and are able to have a better choice of job and money

    I’ve said from the beginning that the B10 always has been the logical landing spot for UW … I’ve also said that UW holds few cards in getting itself to that spot and that being dependent on what the B10 wants to do is not operating from a position of strength. I’ve also said that in the event that a B10 invite does not come that UW needs to act at whatever the next best option is and IMO that option isn’t whatever remains in the PAC

    Many are underestimating the damage that will come with UW remaining in the PAC … we all should hope that doesn’t materialize
    Staying in the pac is not good. But acting like going to zona because of the big 12 I don't buy for a second.

    The lack of recruiting does feel very similar to when lake was here though. He had one foot out the door to the nfl but was exposed as a shitty coach prior.

    I am sure Jen is asleep at the wheel.
    I’m open to alternative explanations for why Arizona has recruiting momentum over UW … that said the B12 is a better conference moving forward than whatever the PAC turns into

    Getting to the bottom of the recruiting issues needs to be discussed and there needs to be accountability for it publicly … too often UW in general is allowed to skate by any responsibility

    Wouldn’t expect anything else besides Jen being asleep at the wheel
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    What I'm hearing:

    People, remember, this is just DeBoer's 2nd recruiting class here. And more importantly, it's just his 2nd recruiting class at the Power-5 level. These 4* recruits still know VERY LITTLE about him or our staff. Patience is a HARD thing to collar in today's society, but just as it is with any new coach at this level, it will still take him/his staff 3 years to get a firm foothold on the west coast.

    Buckle up, as I have a very strong feeling it will be a fun ride in the end!

    NO, I am NOT the "Recruiting Police", just a fan like everyone else. I don't care of you're fretting or not, that's your business :-)

    Every other new coach can recruit in year 2. Fucking Arizona is recruiting. But uw coming off of an 11-2 season can't do it because it's hard. Kids are not even coming to campus.

    This has me more concerned kdb will jump ship if they have a good season because he sees the pipeline of talent being pretty rough the next couple of years. It's his own fault but still.

    Some programs wouldnt touch him because he is definitely sucking in recruiting, but a mid tier big 10 or sec school could definitely come grab him and he wouldn't have to take responsibility for any major holes in the roster.

    Still time to turn it around, but it doesn't look promising.
    I really do find it amusing to see the Doogs not see the direct relationship between lack of recruiting interest and a coach having one foot out the door ... it's not like that has NEVER happened in college football

    What I'd add with recruiting and the future of DeBoer at UW is that you can't undersell how much the uncertainty of where UW is going to end up with any kind of conference realignment is having on not only recruiting but DeBoer's future. If you're staying in a DOA PAC conference that backfills some programs that are leaving to make the conference even more watered down, you'd be an idiot as a coach to not evaluate all of your opportunities when they materialize.

    Another thing I haven't heard people talk about or consider is why is Arizona seemingly doing so great in recruiting ... is it because kids are buying what Jedd Fisch is selling more than what Kalen DeBoer is selling? I find that hard to believe. What I don't find hard to believe is that Arizona is one foot out the door to the Big12 and is able to sell their recruits on playing in the Big12. If you are a recruit and you're evaluating whether to choose playing in the Big12 with games that are going to be on actual TV versus playing in the PAC with games on streaming provider TBD with limited at best games on TV ... where are you choosing to play?

    lol so you think that he didn't want the Purdue, Nebraska, MSU, etc jobs (UW barely even had to pay him more) but now all the sudden having 1 kid committed in June means he's leaving after this year?

    Fuck off with that.

    Enjoy the Big 12. YUGE ratings incoming watching TCU play Arizona and their used car salesman coach.

    Meanwhile steam for UW heading to the B1G is picking up.
    Is your picture next to the definition of an idiot?

    No coach is going to leave a roster set up to compete for a National Tittle run … you leave after you’ve proven that you can coach at that level and are able to have a better choice of job and money

    I’ve said from the beginning that the B10 always has been the logical landing spot for UW … I’ve also said that UW holds few cards in getting itself to that spot and that being dependent on what the B10 wants to do is not operating from a position of strength. I’ve also said that in the event that a B10 invite does not come that UW needs to act at whatever the next best option is and IMO that option isn’t whatever remains in the PAC

    Many are underestimating the damage that will come with UW remaining in the PAC … we all should hope that doesn’t materialize
    Jesus Christ.

    "I've said.."

    "I've also said..."

    "I'm open to..."

    Not reading.

    Fuck off.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    What I'm hearing:

    People, remember, this is just DeBoer's 2nd recruiting class here. And more importantly, it's just his 2nd recruiting class at the Power-5 level. These 4* recruits still know VERY LITTLE about him or our staff. Patience is a HARD thing to collar in today's society, but just as it is with any new coach at this level, it will still take him/his staff 3 years to get a firm foothold on the west coast.

    Buckle up, as I have a very strong feeling it will be a fun ride in the end!

    NO, I am NOT the "Recruiting Police", just a fan like everyone else. I don't care of you're fretting or not, that's your business :-)

    Every other new coach can recruit in year 2. Fucking Arizona is recruiting. But uw coming off of an 11-2 season can't do it because it's hard. Kids are not even coming to campus.

    This has me more concerned kdb will jump ship if they have a good season because he sees the pipeline of talent being pretty rough the next couple of years. It's his own fault but still.

    Some programs wouldnt touch him because he is definitely sucking in recruiting, but a mid tier big 10 or sec school could definitely come grab him and he wouldn't have to take responsibility for any major holes in the roster.

    Still time to turn it around, but it doesn't look promising.
    I really do find it amusing to see the Doogs not see the direct relationship between lack of recruiting interest and a coach having one foot out the door ... it's not like that has NEVER happened in college football

    What I'd add with recruiting and the future of DeBoer at UW is that you can't undersell how much the uncertainty of where UW is going to end up with any kind of conference realignment is having on not only recruiting but DeBoer's future. If you're staying in a DOA PAC conference that backfills some programs that are leaving to make the conference even more watered down, you'd be an idiot as a coach to not evaluate all of your opportunities when they materialize.

    Another thing I haven't heard people talk about or consider is why is Arizona seemingly doing so great in recruiting ... is it because kids are buying what Jedd Fisch is selling more than what Kalen DeBoer is selling? I find that hard to believe. What I don't find hard to believe is that Arizona is one foot out the door to the Big12 and is able to sell their recruits on playing in the Big12. If you are a recruit and you're evaluating whether to choose playing in the Big12 with games that are going to be on actual TV versus playing in the PAC with games on streaming provider TBD with limited at best games on TV ... where are you choosing to play?

    lol so you think that he didn't want the Purdue, Nebraska, MSU, etc jobs (UW barely even had to pay him more) but now all the sudden having 1 kid committed in June means he's leaving after this year?

    Fuck off with that.

    Enjoy the Big 12. YUGE ratings incoming watching TCU play Arizona and their used car salesman coach.

    Meanwhile steam for UW heading to the B1G is picking up.
    Is your picture next to the definition of an idiot?

    No coach is going to leave a roster set up to compete for a National Tittle run … you leave after you’ve proven that you can coach at that level and are able to have a better choice of job and money

    I’ve said from the beginning that the B10 always has been the logical landing spot for UW … I’ve also said that UW holds few cards in getting itself to that spot and that being dependent on what the B10 wants to do is not operating from a position of strength. I’ve also said that in the event that a B10 invite does not come that UW needs to act at whatever the next best option is and IMO that option isn’t whatever remains in the PAC

    Many are underestimating the damage that will come with UW remaining in the PAC … we all should hope that doesn’t materialize
    Staying in the pac is not good. But acting like going to zona because of the big 12 I don't buy for a second.

    The lack of recruiting does feel very similar to when lake was here though. He had one foot out the door to the nfl but was exposed as a shitty coach prior.

    I am sure Jen is asleep at the wheel.
    Lake didn't have one foot out the door. He was a fucking asshole and hs coaches and players hated him and thought he was an arrogant prick.