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Looking back, who had the more disappointing coaching career?
DerekJohnson
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Once upon a time, I loved both of these guys. But both had underwhelming careers. Yes, I realize that Mora is still going. But to this point, what are everyone's thoughts?
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Looking back, who had the more disappointing coaching career? 60 votes
Rick Neuheisel
31%
19 votes
Jim L. Mora
68%
41 votes
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Rick NeuheiselMy expectations of Slick were much higher than Mora. Never understood the Mora fetish.
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Rick NeuheiselRick had it rolling here and then everything went soft. Too many skill guys were recruited and not enough beef.
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Jim L. MoraRick's Highs dwarf anything Mora could attain.
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Rick NeuheiselNeu because I never cared about Mora
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Rick Neuheisel
Yes but since he actually coached here it's most disappointing that he couldn't make it last. Had a better opening than any coach before him. DeBoer now on the clockYellowSnow said:Rick's Highs dwarf anything Mora could attain.
Mora was a hypothetical built for 2007. Anything after that was meaningless -
Jim L. MoraJim went from NFL head coach to fuckin UCONN. At least Rick won something. WOOF!
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Jim L. MoraRick won something and just missed two additional trips to the rose bowl. Big wins too. It was fun.
Mora got a bunch of talent at ucla and was a slightly better version of sark in LA. No hardware.
Both were considered up and comers. -
Jim L. Mora
I will agree with you Race that Rick demonstrated far more real world potential than Mora who was more dealing in hypotheticals BS, and in this respect the let down of his "low" was harder to take. I mean I didn't go to the 2001 Rose Bowl because I was poverty stricken at the time and thought we'd be back next year. 2019 was long time coming.RaceBannon said:
Yes but since he actually coached here it's most disappointing that he couldn't make it last. Had a better opening than any coach before him. DeBoer now on the clockYellowSnow said:Rick's Highs dwarf anything Mora could attain.
Mora was a hypothetical built for 2007. Anything after that was meaningless
I suppose my vote was more who was the most "disappointing" based on the overall suck factor. -
Rick NeuheiselRick had success, but couldn't (didn't) sustain it. It is hard to climb out of the hole, but once you do, it takes an incredible amount of work and discipline to sustain it. There is no more getting overlooked, sneaking up on teams. Rick won an RB with Lambo's guys, and then he coasted instead of grinding. JLM could have done the same here, but I don't know if he is dynamic enough to sustain it, long term.
When Chip was at the 0, they were measuring him for a statue, and he decided to shoot for the moon (and avoid THE HAMMER). My poont is that a lot of coaches can scheme, a lot that can recruit/evaluate, and very few that can do both and create a sustainable, winning culture... -
Jim L. MoraI went with Mora because there were warning signs about Rick from his time in Colorado.
Mora was a blank slate, had decent defenses in SF and I thought he would be our? version of Pete Carroll, middling NFL, rah-rah type coach who connects with and gets the best out of college players. His first 2 years looked like that would happen and then the wheels came off leading to his implosion. -
Rick NeuheiselI don't know. It seemed like Mora came closer to building his own success at UCLA than Neu did and that Neu flamed out faster there. I didn't pay close attention and it doesn't matter. Both disappointed in the end.
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Jim L. Mora
Mora had a respectable start at UCLA and I think if he had eaten his birthday cake, he would have likely been an upgrade over the Sark years at UW.chuck said:I don't know. It seemed like Mora came closer to building his own success at UCLA than Neu did and that Neu flamed out faster there. I didn't pay close attention and it doesn't matter. Both disappointed in the end.
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Rick Neuheisel
He wouldn't have gone owen12 in 08YellowSnow said:
Mora had a respectable start at UCLA and I think if he had eaten his birthday cake, he would have likely been an upgrade over the Sark years at UW.chuck said:I don't know. It seemed like Mora came closer to building his own success at UCLA than Neu did and that Neu flamed out faster there. I didn't pay close attention and it doesn't matter. Both disappointed in the end.
The vindication was Mora leading the other Huskies to a bowl last season. They had sucked for years.
That was the original premise. He'd come in after 07 and get rid of the Ty stench and bring excitement back
Yes we? wanted him again after 08 but Sark also brought some excitement back for a minute
Ty still being here in 08 is unforgivable -
Jim L. Mora
I was told my some members of the half brain pundit class that Sark had achieved house money status after 2010.RaceBannon said:
He wouldn't have gone owen12 in 08YellowSnow said:
Mora had a respectable start at UCLA and I think if he had eaten his birthday cake, he would have likely been an upgrade over the Sark years at UW.chuck said:I don't know. It seemed like Mora came closer to building his own success at UCLA than Neu did and that Neu flamed out faster there. I didn't pay close attention and it doesn't matter. Both disappointed in the end.
The vindication was Mora leading the other Huskies to a bowl last season. They had sucked for years.
That was the original premise. He'd come in after 07 and get rid of the Ty stench and bring excitement back
Yes we? wanted him again after 08 but Sark also brought some excitement back for a minute
Ty still being here in 08 is unforgivable -
Rick Neuheisel
I'm not saying Sark has house money status after beating Nebraska but if he did it would look like thisYellowSnow said:
I was told my some members of the half brain pundit class that Sark had achieved house money status after 2010.RaceBannon said:
He wouldn't have gone owen12 in 08YellowSnow said:
Mora had a respectable start at UCLA and I think if he had eaten his birthday cake, he would have likely been an upgrade over the Sark years at UW.chuck said:I don't know. It seemed like Mora came closer to building his own success at UCLA than Neu did and that Neu flamed out faster there. I didn't pay close attention and it doesn't matter. Both disappointed in the end.
The vindication was Mora leading the other Huskies to a bowl last season. They had sucked for years.
That was the original premise. He'd come in after 07 and get rid of the Ty stench and bring excitement back
Yes we? wanted him again after 08 but Sark also brought some excitement back for a minute
Ty still being here in 08 is unforgivable -
Rick NeuheiselI went Neweasel as he disappointed - Slick Rick for a reason. Mora never coached here so hard to pick him as Idngaf about fUCLA.
Slick will never be rated worse than the comportment king - in mines opinion
And if it wasn't for Ty, would this hell hole exist? -
Jim L. MoraSlick Rick was at one point one of the top 5 highest paid coaches and got a rose bowl. He got some decent wins under his belt. That Miami W is probably one of the best in program history.
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Came to read about Kevin Ware from his necro bro, @trublue. But as necro bros say, it's better LATE than never!
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Jim L. MoraI thought Mora would be our Pete Carroll.
He was not. Not even our coach. Sark got it.
Rick did let me down without question after 2000 and the skill players he had. But Mora never came. -
Rick NeuheiselI voted Rick but probably should have went Mora because he also leveraged UW to get raises at UCLA.
Both are testaments to how hard it is to be the rah rah guy and also be the guy who can maintain order and be a gameday coach. You can see it in that all generally do well at first at their jobs then fall apart. -
Jim L. MoraAnother reason to vote for Mora. I can’t remember the timing, but probably after Sark took the USC job (praise unto St Haden), I woke up around 2am and saw a text from Stalin telling me Mora was coming to UW.
I was so excited I couldn’t get back to sleep. My wife woke up and I shared the news. She wasn’t as excited as I was. -
Rick Neuheisel
Sounds like Stalin would rather be first than right.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Another reason to vote for Mora. I can’t remember the timing, but probably after Sark took the USC job (praise unto St Haden), I woke up around 2am and saw a text from Stalin telling me Mora was coming to UW.
I was so excited I couldn’t get back to sleep. My wife woke up and I shared the news. She wasn’t as excited as I was. -
Jim L. Mora
It’s what he was hearing at the time. Things changes all the time with coaching searches. If you can’t handle the ups and downs.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Sounds like Stalin would rather be first than right.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Another reason to vote for Mora. I can’t remember the timing, but probably after Sark took the USC job (praise unto St Haden), I woke up around 2am and saw a text from Stalin telling me Mora was coming to UW.
I was so excited I couldn’t get back to sleep. My wife woke up and I shared the news. She wasn’t as excited as I was. -
Jim L. Mora
Mora would have been brought in for 2008 to clean up the program. Then the next coach would have had the foundation to win. *cough*RaceBannon said:
He wouldn't have gone owen12 in 08YellowSnow said:
Mora had a respectable start at UCLA and I think if he had eaten his birthday cake, he would have likely been an upgrade over the Sark years at UW.chuck said:I don't know. It seemed like Mora came closer to building his own success at UCLA than Neu did and that Neu flamed out faster there. I didn't pay close attention and it doesn't matter. Both disappointed in the end.
The vindication was Mora leading the other Huskies to a bowl last season. They had sucked for years.
That was the original premise. He'd come in after 07 and get rid of the Ty stench and bring excitement back
Yes we? wanted him again after 08 but Sark also brought some excitement back for a minute
Ty still being here in 08 is unforgivable -
Jim L. MoraMora leads Neu 64%-35%
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Jim L. MoraMora sucks seal balls
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Rick Neuheisel
Seal scrotum wallet > foreskin wallet. I bet so anyways.ForeskinWalletDawg said:Mora sucks seal balls
I finally voted and it was easy. I realized how doogish my expectations were for RN. It's what got me into this message board thing.
I never really was sure how Mora would turn out. I wanted him at UW badly a couple of times but that was as much a function of who the incumbent was as it was about Mora. -
Jim L. MoraIt's Mora, c'mon, wtf? Rick was sober Sark, talked shit, beat Oregon, won a Rose Bowl.
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Jim L. Morarick won a rose and popped off. also, beating the canes (when the canes still MATTERED) at husky stadium is also a nice feather. yeah, after that it was all downhill.
mora was a pie guy, nuff said on that.
