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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,891
    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.

    Are we still for democracy or no?

    Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men

    Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea

    This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"

    You girls got what you wished for. (There's a saying about that, you know.) It's not anti-democratic to say you'll reap the "rewards". In fact, that is democracy.
    You got what you voted for. I will continue to pay the taxes that I voted against at gun point.
    At gun point!

    You lead an exciting life.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,750 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.

    Are we still for democracy or no?

    Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men

    Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea

    This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"

    You girls got what you wished for. (There's a saying about that, you know.) It's not anti-democratic to say you'll reap the "rewards". In fact, that is democracy.
    And Biden still sucks which matters far more in Washington state

    Bankrupt party of baby killers

    Nice
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,211 Standard Supporter
    I also see a lot of “GOOD LUCK IN 2024 LADIES!!!!” from HH and zero in the way of making an argument against the legislation.

    I personally think 6 weeks is a tight frame, and I’m not factoring the subjective argument in terms of when life begins that the left likes to get itself embroiled in.

    For me, it’s what’s a reasonable timeline for someone to learn that they’re pregnant and make a rational decision to keep or terminate the pregnancy. 6 weeks is enough for many people, but apparently not all, and I get that. I had a friend whose aunt was 10 weeks along before she knew she and her husband were expecting. It’s not the norm but it definitely happens.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,891
    thechatch said:

    I also see a lot of “GOOD LUCK IN 2024 LADIES!!!!” from HH and zero in the way of making an argument against the legislation.

    I personally think 6 weeks is a tight frame, and I’m not factoring the subjective argument in terms of when life begins that the left likes to get itself embroiled in.

    For me, it’s what’s a reasonable timeline for someone to learn that they’re pregnant and make a rational decision to keep or terminate the pregnancy. 6 weeks is enough for many people, but apparently not all, and I get that. I had a friend whose aunt was 10 weeks along before she knew she and her husband were expecting. It’s not the norm but it definitely happens.

    The fetus is alive. So what? (And I'm not even a biologist.)


  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,641 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.

    Are we still for democracy or no?

    Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men

    Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea

    This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"

    You girls got what you wished for. (There's a saying about that, you know.) It's not anti-democratic to say you'll reap the "rewards". In fact, that is democracy.
    You got what you voted for. I will continue to pay the taxes that I voted against at gun point.
    At gun point!

    You lead an exciting life.
    So I have a choice in paying my taxes?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,891
    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.

    Are we still for democracy or no?

    Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men

    Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea

    This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"

    You girls got what you wished for. (There's a saying about that, you know.) It's not anti-democratic to say you'll reap the "rewards". In fact, that is democracy.
    You got what you voted for. I will continue to pay the taxes that I voted against at gun point.
    At gun point!

    You lead an exciting life.
    So I have a choice in paying my taxes?
    Maybe you just need a bigger gun.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,641 Founders Club
    HHusky said:



    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.

    Are we still for democracy or no?

    Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men

    Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea

    This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"

    You girls got what you wished for. (There's a saying about that, you know.) It's not anti-democratic to say you'll reap the "rewards". In fact, that is democracy.
    You got what you voted for. I will continue to pay the taxes that I voted against at gun point.
    At gun point!

    You lead an exciting life.
    So I have a choice in paying my taxes?
    Maybe you just need a bigger gun.
    You outlawed those too.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,891
    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:



    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.

    Are we still for democracy or no?

    Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men

    Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea

    This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"

    You girls got what you wished for. (There's a saying about that, you know.) It's not anti-democratic to say you'll reap the "rewards". In fact, that is democracy.
    You got what you voted for. I will continue to pay the taxes that I voted against at gun point.
    At gun point!

    You lead an exciting life.
    So I have a choice in paying my taxes?
    Maybe you just need a bigger gun.
    You outlawed those too.
    Current events isn't your strong suit.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,891
    edited April 2023
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,698 Standard Supporter
    Demonrats approve of post birth abortions! So Dazzler how about those murder charges for unborn children of murdered mothers? Explain that to me if you can do late term or post term abortions. Type slow we don't want you to injure yourself too badly.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,552 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    Demonrats approve of post birth abortions! So Dazzler how about those murder charges for unborn children of murdered mothers? Explain that to me if you can do late term or post term abortions. Type slow we don't want you to injure yourself too badly.

    Virginia Governor Northam, former pediatric neurologist. A fringe democrat like "Born Alive Barry."

    "... I can tell you exactly what would happen, the infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029
    edited April 2023
    Sledog said:

    Demonrats approve of post birth abortions! So Dazzler how about those murder charges for unborn children of murdered mothers? Explain that to me if you can do late term or post term abortions. Type slow we don't want you to injure yourself too badly.

    Sleddy, you need to get these equivocating pseudo pro-lifers out on the carpet and make them clarify how they distinguish themselves from the 9 mos. abortionists. As it is, I see no difference, other than political expediency.

    PS: "fetus" is Latin for "offspring". So, you know, there you have it.

    #notastatesrightsissue
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,698 Standard Supporter
    "Nippers" Gosnell would cut their spines at the neck after getting them out alive. The fucking horror of this shit is off the charts. How any woman can do this to their child is also unimaginable. I can tell if do something to my children, grandchildren or family very, very bad things will happen to you. Age does not matter.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,750 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    Demonrats approve of post birth abortions! So Dazzler how about those murder charges for unborn children of murdered mothers? Explain that to me if you can do late term or post term abortions. Type slow we don't want you to injure yourself too badly.

    Sleddy, you need to get these equivocating pseudo pro-lifers out on the carpet and make them clarify how they distinguish themselves from the 9 mos. abortionists. As it is, I see no difference, other than political expediency.

    PS: "fetus" is Latin for "offspring". So, you know, there you have it.

    #notastatesrightsissue
    Political expediency because women want to abort unwanted babies. Safe legal and rare should still be the standard. First trimester


    You can go to hell for talking back to your parents. People forget that

    Sin is sin. We live in a secular society. Best you can do is save souls one at a time. Jesus would forgive the woman who has an abortion.

    Preach the word brother. Save the sinner and the sin goes away


    Allegedly
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,891
    Sledog said:

    "Nippers" Gosnell would cut their spines at the neck after getting them out alive. The fucking horror of this shit is off the charts. How any woman can do this to their child is also unimaginable. I can tell if do something to my children, grandchildren or family very, very bad things will happen to you. Age does not matter.

    Gosnell is in prison.

    Non-felon MDs aren't murdering viable fetuses.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029

    Sledog said:

    Demonrats approve of post birth abortions! So Dazzler how about those murder charges for unborn children of murdered mothers? Explain that to me if you can do late term or post term abortions. Type slow we don't want you to injure yourself too badly.

    Sleddy, you need to get these equivocating pseudo pro-lifers out on the carpet and make them clarify how they distinguish themselves from the 9 mos. abortionists. As it is, I see no difference, other than political expediency.

    PS: "fetus" is Latin for "offspring". So, you know, there you have it.

    #notastatesrightsissue
    Political expediency because women want to abort unwanted babies. Safe legal and rare should still be the standard. First trimester


    You can go to hell for talking back to your parents. People forget that

    Sin is sin. We live in a secular society. Best you can do is save souls one at a time. Jesus would forgive the woman who has an abortion.

    Preach the word brother. Save the sinner and the sin goes away


    Allegedly
    Note, for the record, that mine is a secular view. Mike Damone is an atheist, allegedly.

    You can't go to jail for talking back to your parents, but you can for murdering them.

    The religious implications will be handled in the end by someone other than me.

    I'm preaching, but nobody is listening. Story of my life IMO.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029
    Sledog said:

    "Nippers" Gosnell would cut their spines at the neck after getting them out alive. The fucking horror of this shit is off the charts. How any woman can do this to their child is also unimaginable. I can tell if do something to my children, grandchildren or family very, very bad things will happen to you. Age does not matter.

    Yup. Sleddy gets it.

    Sleddy 1; Oregon Bros 0.

    Same as ever.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,029
    thechatch said:

    I also see a lot of “GOOD LUCK IN 2024 LADIES!!!!” from HH and zero in the way of making an argument against the legislation.

    I personally think 6 weeks is a tight frame, and I’m not factoring the subjective argument in terms of when life begins that the left likes to get itself embroiled in.

    For me, it’s what’s a reasonable timeline for someone to learn that they’re pregnant and make a rational decision to keep or terminate the pregnancy. 6 weeks is enough for many people, but apparently not all, and I get that. I had a friend whose aunt was 10 weeks along before she knew she and her husband were expecting. It’s not the norm but it definitely happens.

    The Throbber is an expert on the female anatomy and skillfully tracking when his significant other’s period is scheduled. No nookie during the rainy season.

    Needs to be set at least at 8 to 9 weeks so a skipped period doesn’t trigger an immediate trip to the abortion clinic during the first pass.



  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,750 Founders Club

    Sledog said:

    Demonrats approve of post birth abortions! So Dazzler how about those murder charges for unborn children of murdered mothers? Explain that to me if you can do late term or post term abortions. Type slow we don't want you to injure yourself too badly.

    Sleddy, you need to get these equivocating pseudo pro-lifers out on the carpet and make them clarify how they distinguish themselves from the 9 mos. abortionists. As it is, I see no difference, other than political expediency.

    PS: "fetus" is Latin for "offspring". So, you know, there you have it.

    #notastatesrightsissue
    Political expediency because women want to abort unwanted babies. Safe legal and rare should still be the standard. First trimester


    You can go to hell for talking back to your parents. People forget that

    Sin is sin. We live in a secular society. Best you can do is save souls one at a time. Jesus would forgive the woman who has an abortion.

    Preach the word brother. Save the sinner and the sin goes away


    Allegedly
    Note, for the record, that mine is a secular view. Mike Damone is an atheist, allegedly.

    You can't go to jail for talking back to your parents, but you can for murdering them.

    The religious implications will be handled in the end by someone other than me.

    I'm preaching, but nobody is listening. Story of my life IMO.
    The secular view is bolsterd by charging double murder if a woman is preggers

    But a secular society sets its rules. We could bathe in the blood of our enemies if we wanted

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029

    thechatch said:

    I also see a lot of “GOOD LUCK IN 2024 LADIES!!!!” from HH and zero in the way of making an argument against the legislation.

    I personally think 6 weeks is a tight frame, and I’m not factoring the subjective argument in terms of when life begins that the left likes to get itself embroiled in.

    For me, it’s what’s a reasonable timeline for someone to learn that they’re pregnant and make a rational decision to keep or terminate the pregnancy. 6 weeks is enough for many people, but apparently not all, and I get that. I had a friend whose aunt was 10 weeks along before she knew she and her husband were expecting. It’s not the norm but it definitely happens.

    The Throbber is an expert on the female anatomy and skillfully tracking when his significant other’s period is scheduled. No nookie during the rainy season.

    Needs to be set at least at 8 to 9 weeks so a skipped period doesn’t trigger an immediate trip to the abortion clinic during the first pass.



    You didn't need to add that. Gratuitous IMO. I hope you can live with yourself.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,029

    thechatch said:

    I also see a lot of “GOOD LUCK IN 2024 LADIES!!!!” from HH and zero in the way of making an argument against the legislation.

    I personally think 6 weeks is a tight frame, and I’m not factoring the subjective argument in terms of when life begins that the left likes to get itself embroiled in.

    For me, it’s what’s a reasonable timeline for someone to learn that they’re pregnant and make a rational decision to keep or terminate the pregnancy. 6 weeks is enough for many people, but apparently not all, and I get that. I had a friend whose aunt was 10 weeks along before she knew she and her husband were expecting. It’s not the norm but it definitely happens.

    The Throbber is an expert on the female anatomy and skillfully tracking when his significant other’s period is scheduled. No nookie during the rainy season.

    Needs to be set at least at 8 to 9 weeks so a skipped period doesn’t trigger an immediate trip to the abortion clinic during the first pass.



    You didn't need to add that. Gratuitous IMO. I hope you can live with yourself.
    Pragmatic Throbber is pragmatic. We've already been through the correct moral decision. We live in a representative republic - and compromise is necessary on the political front to reach reasonable solutions.

    All or nothing ban is a loser political strategy and cedes control to the opposition.

    The Throbber supports the states right to govern so if Florida goes with 6 weeks, then so be it - but that line in the sand will have ripple effects elsewhere and nutcases like the Washington state legislature will go full-bore abortion up until birth as allowable.




  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,035 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2023

    thechatch said:

    I also see a lot of “GOOD LUCK IN 2024 LADIES!!!!” from HH and zero in the way of making an argument against the legislation.

    I personally think 6 weeks is a tight frame, and I’m not factoring the subjective argument in terms of when life begins that the left likes to get itself embroiled in.

    For me, it’s what’s a reasonable timeline for someone to learn that they’re pregnant and make a rational decision to keep or terminate the pregnancy. 6 weeks is enough for many people, but apparently not all, and I get that. I had a friend whose aunt was 10 weeks along before she knew she and her husband were expecting. It’s not the norm but it definitely happens.

    The Throbber is an expert on the female anatomy and skillfully tracking when his significant other’s period is scheduled. No nookie during the rainy season.

    Needs to be set at least at 8 to 9 weeks so a skipped period doesn’t trigger an immediate trip to the abortion clinic during the first pass.

    Whatever the time-frame, it'll always be a compromise and terminating a life.

    Make it 16 to 20 weeks.

    Some fat dumb women won't know until then, sad to say, and it's probably better for humanity that those folks don't propagate.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029

    thechatch said:

    I also see a lot of “GOOD LUCK IN 2024 LADIES!!!!” from HH and zero in the way of making an argument against the legislation.

    I personally think 6 weeks is a tight frame, and I’m not factoring the subjective argument in terms of when life begins that the left likes to get itself embroiled in.

    For me, it’s what’s a reasonable timeline for someone to learn that they’re pregnant and make a rational decision to keep or terminate the pregnancy. 6 weeks is enough for many people, but apparently not all, and I get that. I had a friend whose aunt was 10 weeks along before she knew she and her husband were expecting. It’s not the norm but it definitely happens.

    The Throbber is an expert on the female anatomy and skillfully tracking when his significant other’s period is scheduled. No nookie during the rainy season.

    Needs to be set at least at 8 to 9 weeks so a skipped period doesn’t trigger an immediate trip to the abortion clinic during the first pass.



    You didn't need to add that. Gratuitous IMO. I hope you can live with yourself.
    Pragmatic Throbber is pragmatic. We've already been through the correct moral decision. We live in a representative republic - and compromise is necessary on the political front to reach reasonable solutions.

    All or nothing ban is a loser political strategy and cedes control to the opposition.

    The Throbber supports the states right to govern so if Florida goes with 6 weeks, then so be it - but that line in the sand will have ripple effects elsewhere and nutcases like the Washington state legislature will go full-bore abortion up until birth as allowable.




    Get back to me when Alabama makes it a felony for jerking off to images of unclean women. Then you'll change your tune.

    The unborn have the right to live. You have the right to please yourself. These things are spelled out in the constitution.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029

    thechatch said:

    I also see a lot of “GOOD LUCK IN 2024 LADIES!!!!” from HH and zero in the way of making an argument against the legislation.

    I personally think 6 weeks is a tight frame, and I’m not factoring the subjective argument in terms of when life begins that the left likes to get itself embroiled in.

    For me, it’s what’s a reasonable timeline for someone to learn that they’re pregnant and make a rational decision to keep or terminate the pregnancy. 6 weeks is enough for many people, but apparently not all, and I get that. I had a friend whose aunt was 10 weeks along before she knew she and her husband were expecting. It’s not the norm but it definitely happens.

    The Throbber is an expert on the female anatomy and skillfully tracking when his significant other’s period is scheduled. No nookie during the rainy season.

    Needs to be set at least at 8 to 9 weeks so a skipped period doesn’t trigger an immediate trip to the abortion clinic during the first pass.

    Whatever the time-frame, it'll always be a compromise and terminating a life.

    Make it 16 to 20 weeks.

    Some fat dumb women won't know until then, sad to say, and it's probably better for humanity that those folks don't propagate.
    You are in contention for joining the right side. We have our eyes on you.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,552 Standard Supporter

    thechatch said:

    I also see a lot of “GOOD LUCK IN 2024 LADIES!!!!” from HH and zero in the way of making an argument against the legislation.

    I personally think 6 weeks is a tight frame, and I’m not factoring the subjective argument in terms of when life begins that the left likes to get itself embroiled in.

    For me, it’s what’s a reasonable timeline for someone to learn that they’re pregnant and make a rational decision to keep or terminate the pregnancy. 6 weeks is enough for many people, but apparently not all, and I get that. I had a friend whose aunt was 10 weeks along before she knew she and her husband were expecting. It’s not the norm but it definitely happens.

    The Throbber is an expert on the female anatomy and skillfully tracking when his significant other’s period is scheduled. No nookie during the rainy season.

    Needs to be set at least at 8 to 9 weeks so a skipped period doesn’t trigger an immediate trip to the abortion clinic during the first pass.



    You didn't need to add that. Gratuitous IMO. I hope you can live with yourself.
    Pragmatic Throbber is pragmatic. We've already been through the correct moral decision. We live in a representative republic - and compromise is necessary on the political front to reach reasonable solutions.

    All or nothing ban is a loser political strategy and cedes control to the opposition.

    The Throbber supports the states right to govern so if Florida goes with 6 weeks, then so be it - but that line in the sand will have ripple effects elsewhere and nutcases like the Washington state legislature will go full-bore abortion up until birth as allowable.




    Get back to me when Alabama makes it a felony for jerking off to images of unclean women. Then you'll change your tune.

    Wasn't aware that unlike abortion, illegal jerking isn't on the table. Almost a dazzler like move on the strawman without forking out for dinner.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,698 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    "Nippers" Gosnell would cut their spines at the neck after getting them out alive. The fucking horror of this shit is off the charts. How any woman can do this to their child is also unimaginable. I can tell if do something to my children, grandchildren or family very, very bad things will happen to you. Age does not matter.

    Gosnell is in prison.

    Non-felon MDs aren't murdering viable fetuses.
    Look how long it took for him to get to prison. He was doing that shit forever. I'm sure their are other shitbag abortion docs as well.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,891
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    "Nippers" Gosnell would cut their spines at the neck after getting them out alive. The fucking horror of this shit is off the charts. How any woman can do this to their child is also unimaginable. I can tell if do something to my children, grandchildren or family very, very bad things will happen to you. Age does not matter.

    Gosnell is in prison.

    Non-felon MDs aren't murdering viable fetuses.
    Look how long it took for him to get to prison. He was doing that shit forever. I'm sure their are other shitbag abortion docs as well.
    Well, if you're sure, I guess you don't need any actual facts.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,029

    thechatch said:

    I also see a lot of “GOOD LUCK IN 2024 LADIES!!!!” from HH and zero in the way of making an argument against the legislation.

    I personally think 6 weeks is a tight frame, and I’m not factoring the subjective argument in terms of when life begins that the left likes to get itself embroiled in.

    For me, it’s what’s a reasonable timeline for someone to learn that they’re pregnant and make a rational decision to keep or terminate the pregnancy. 6 weeks is enough for many people, but apparently not all, and I get that. I had a friend whose aunt was 10 weeks along before she knew she and her husband were expecting. It’s not the norm but it definitely happens.

    The Throbber is an expert on the female anatomy and skillfully tracking when his significant other’s period is scheduled. No nookie during the rainy season.

    Needs to be set at least at 8 to 9 weeks so a skipped period doesn’t trigger an immediate trip to the abortion clinic during the first pass.



    You didn't need to add that. Gratuitous IMO. I hope you can live with yourself.
    Pragmatic Throbber is pragmatic. We've already been through the correct moral decision. We live in a representative republic - and compromise is necessary on the political front to reach reasonable solutions.

    All or nothing ban is a loser political strategy and cedes control to the opposition.

    The Throbber supports the states right to govern so if Florida goes with 6 weeks, then so be it - but that line in the sand will have ripple effects elsewhere and nutcases like the Washington state legislature will go full-bore abortion up until birth as allowable.




    Get back to me when Alabama makes it a felony for jerking off to images of unclean women. Then you'll change your tune.

    The unborn have the right to live. You have the right to please yourself. These things are spelled out in the constitution.
    1 - don't live in Alabama. But there are 49 other states whereby jerking to unclean women would still be permissible in hypothetical USA.

    2 - the states get to decide the terms (or not) per the SCOTUS ruling. Therefore some might go to the zero tolerance approach.

    Not arguing the morality.

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,029

    thechatch said:

    I also see a lot of “GOOD LUCK IN 2024 LADIES!!!!” from HH and zero in the way of making an argument against the legislation.

    I personally think 6 weeks is a tight frame, and I’m not factoring the subjective argument in terms of when life begins that the left likes to get itself embroiled in.

    For me, it’s what’s a reasonable timeline for someone to learn that they’re pregnant and make a rational decision to keep or terminate the pregnancy. 6 weeks is enough for many people, but apparently not all, and I get that. I had a friend whose aunt was 10 weeks along before she knew she and her husband were expecting. It’s not the norm but it definitely happens.

    The Throbber is an expert on the female anatomy and skillfully tracking when his significant other’s period is scheduled. No nookie during the rainy season.

    Needs to be set at least at 8 to 9 weeks so a skipped period doesn’t trigger an immediate trip to the abortion clinic during the first pass.



    You didn't need to add that. Gratuitous IMO. I hope you can live with yourself.
    Pragmatic Throbber is pragmatic. We've already been through the correct moral decision. We live in a representative republic - and compromise is necessary on the political front to reach reasonable solutions.

    All or nothing ban is a loser political strategy and cedes control to the opposition.

    The Throbber supports the states right to govern so if Florida goes with 6 weeks, then so be it - but that line in the sand will have ripple effects elsewhere and nutcases like the Washington state legislature will go full-bore abortion up until birth as allowable.




    Get back to me when Alabama makes it a felony for jerking off to images of unclean women. Then you'll change your tune.

    The unborn have the right to live. You have the right to please yourself. These things are spelled out in the constitution.
    1 - don't live in Alabama. But there are 49 other states whereby jerking to unclean women would still be permissible in hypothetical USA.

    2 - the states get to decide the terms (or not) per the SCOTUS ruling. Therefore some might go to the zero tolerance approach.

    Not arguing the morality.

    1. Let's say the DAWGS! decide to schedule an OOC with the hillbillies and you're in Tuscaloosa and you're striking out left and right because the local talent can smell the north on you. You're back in your hotel room and you need to rub one out so you can get some shut eye. Boom! You're done.

    2 I know that. I have this issue down pretty well. For the learned among us, that is not where the analysis ends. We are a country based on at least fundamental Judeo-Christian ethics, and as such murder of the innocent with state sponsorship is flatly offensive. Pleasing oneself in private may be open to debate. Haven't thought that one through yet.