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Florida passes 6 week abortion plan

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  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,844
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Playing stupid, girls? Or not playing at all?

    Congrats on staking out the total ban on abortion position. Good luck the rest of the way.

    Link?

    I've said numerous times first trimester

    Ask @creepycoug

    Just because you vote for abortion till birth is no reason to lie
    Your boy Ron is gonna sign the six week bill. Your judges want to ban the morning after pill. It's a ban.

    Good luck in 2024.
    Something something voter fraud…
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Who would have thought taking on abortion full throttle would hurt Republicans?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,027
    HHusky said:

    I voted for Joe Biden to save abortion!!!

    America is a bunch of idiots. You can blame Trump for picking judges that did the right thing by not inventing a right and making the decision up to the states or the Congress. I suppose you could vote for a democrat for president to reverse that.

    But the states are the battleground. Newsom will kill DeSantis on this. Noem is also "extreme" on abortion. You are only extreme if you limit it not if you go up to birth with it

    Point is the next president won't have shit to do with it but the democrats can't run on the economy or the border or foreign policy. This is all they have and the familiar cry of RACIST

    Women will let their sports and their identity be destroyed for a promise of easy abortion on demand

    That's the world we live in.

    The GOP refuses to run on issues that help them

    GOP are the Washington Generals of the uniparty cash machine. They all get paid.

    Six weeks is fucking stupid from a political standpoint. They don't want to win. They want to be righteous. Which is fine if you're @creepycoug. But this is politics. Just win, baby.

    Drawing the line in the sand on an unreasonable timeline just means the GOP will lose and the leftists will run it up the gut all the way down the tranny green field.

    Stupid fucks.

    Agreed. Make it 14 weeks like France or add a week or two longer and say this is a common sense compromise and then say unlimited abortion including born alive abortions isn't a common sense compromise and make the dem support unlimited abortion.
    But beating heart!!!
    speaking of stupid fucks.
    HHusky said:



    the democrats position of abortion until birth

    Names?
    @MelloDawgFS and the Dazzler for two
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter
    6 werks is definitely too short and may hurt him in the general, but can be mitigated with other positive messages...
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    A Democrat-sponsored bill that would have legalized abortion through all nine months of pregnancy failed in the Senate on Wednesday by a vote of 51-49.

    The bill, known as the Women’s Health Protection Act, had passed the House last September and was brought forth for a Senate vote by Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) in wake of the leaked Supreme Court opinion draft showing that the court is poised to overturn Roe v. Wade. Schumer and other Democrats had claimed that the bill was necessary to codify Roe and protect the right to abortion throughout America. Critics of the bill said it went way beyond Roe.

    The DIM Party is a death cult.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Playing stupid, girls? Or not playing at all?

    Congrats on staking out the total ban on abortion position. Good luck the rest of the way.

    Link?

    I've said numerous times first trimester

    Ask @creepycoug

    Just because you vote for abortion till birth is no reason to lie
    Your boy Ron is gonna sign the six week bill. Your judges want to ban the morning after pill. It's a ban.

    Good luck in 2024.
    You don’t live in FL.

    You didn’t vote for RDS.

    That’s your usual comeback.

    Calm down.

    Ghoul.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    I voted for Joe Biden to save abortion!!!

    America is a bunch of idiots. You can blame Trump for picking judges that did the right thing by not inventing a right and making the decision up to the states or the Congress. I suppose you could vote for a democrat for president to reverse that.

    But the states are the battleground. Newsom will kill DeSantis on this. Noem is also "extreme" on abortion. You are only extreme if you limit it not if you go up to birth with it

    Point is the next president won't have shit to do with it but the democrats can't run on the economy or the border or foreign policy. This is all they have and the familiar cry of RACIST

    Women will let their sports and their identity be destroyed for a promise of easy abortion on demand

    That's the world we live in.

    The GOP refuses to run on issues that help them

    GOP are the Washington Generals of the uniparty cash machine. They all get paid.

    Six weeks is fucking stupid from a political standpoint. They don't want to win. They want to be righteous. Which is fine if you're @creepycoug. But this is politics. Just win, baby.

    Drawing the line in the sand on an unreasonable timeline just means the GOP will lose and the leftists will run it up the gut all the way down the tranny green field.

    Stupid fucks.

    The DIMS go full throttle into stupid shit all the time. And they Win. It’s time for the GOP to start doing the same. If you’re going to lose do it on your terms and don’t sacrifice principles to keep the score close.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    I voted for Joe Biden to save abortion!!!

    America is a bunch of idiots. You can blame Trump for picking judges that did the right thing by not inventing a right and making the decision up to the states or the Congress. I suppose you could vote for a democrat for president to reverse that.

    But the states are the battleground. Newsom will kill DeSantis on this. Noem is also "extreme" on abortion. You are only extreme if you limit it not if you go up to birth with it

    Point is the next president won't have shit to do with it but the democrats can't run on the economy or the border or foreign policy. This is all they have and the familiar cry of RACIST

    Women will let their sports and their identity be destroyed for a promise of easy abortion on demand

    That's the world we live in.

    The GOP refuses to run on issues that help them

    GOP are the Washington Generals of the uniparty cash machine. They all get paid.

    Six weeks is fucking stupid from a political standpoint. They don't want to win. They want to be righteous. Which is fine if you're @creepycoug. But this is politics. Just win, baby.

    Drawing the line in the sand on an unreasonable timeline just means the GOP will lose and the leftists will run it up the gut all the way down the tranny green field.

    Stupid fucks.

    Agreed. Make it 14 weeks like France or add a week or two longer and say this is a common sense compromise and then say unlimited abortion including born alive abortions isn't a common sense compromise and make the dem support unlimited abortion.
    But beating heart!!!
    Your act is fucking old Ghoul.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    Playing stupid, girls? Or not playing at all?

    Congrats on staking out the total ban on abortion position. Good luck the rest of the way.

    Cry more, bitch.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886
    edited April 2023
    Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.

    Good luck girls!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,729 Founders Club
    Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.

    Are we still for democracy or no?

    Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men

    Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea

    This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,729 Founders Club
    edited April 2023


    Since late last year, Donald Trump has been holding private meetings with religious-right figures in an effort to remind them about his anti-abortion record and ensure their support. But instead of thanking Trump for his role in repealing Roe v. Wade, the leaders are pressing for hardcore commitments that go far beyond what he is comfortable with — and what he thinks voters will allow him to get away with.

    According to two participants and another source close to Trump, the ex-president has warned leaders in off-the-record conversations that Republicans risk “losing big” — in Trump’s words — unless they follow his lead. He has warned the leaders to shift their own messaging, telling them to emphasize “exceptions” to abortion bans, including in cases of rape, incest, or a threat to the life of the mother. In these frank talks, Trump has stressed this is his 2024 plan, saying it’s necessary to prevent Democrats from painting him as an “extremist.”

    Privately, Trump is conceding those big losses have already begun. Trump has for several weeks vented to confidants that the GOP is “getting killed on abortion” or on “the abortion issue,” according to three people who’ve heard him use this phrasing on different occasions.

    During his meetings, when pressed on what specifically he’d support in a second term, Trump has instead focused on his record as the “most pro-life” president in U.S. history. Among the anti-abortion leaders, religious conservatives, and politically active pastors gathered, Trump’s retroactive focus has left some unsatisfied, including anti-abortion advocates who previously endorsed him. Indeed, during one of these conference calls held around early March, one of the participants gently told Trump that his 2024 policy commitments were vague, requesting clarity and specifics. Trump responded by boasting about his past accomplishments, according to two of the sources.

    @Kaepsknee
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,027
    edited April 2023

    Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.

    Are we still for democracy or no?

    Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men

    Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea

    This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"

    Dazzler seems to forget about the whole states rights thing.

    Except when it is Jay Chinslee and his merry band of progressive legislators. Fuck those guys and their midnight shenanigans making it a crime for parents to refuse sex change operations on their 6 year olds. And allow dumbfuck teachers/counselors to take on the role of understanding/mutilating parent instead.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,729 Founders Club

    Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.

    Are we still for democracy or no?

    Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men

    Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea

    This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"

    Dazzler seems to forget about the whole states rights thing.

    Except when it is Jay Chinslee and his merry band of progressive legislators. Fuck those guys and their midnight shenanigans making it a crime for parents to refuse sex change operations on their 6 year olds. And allow dumbfuck teachers/counselors to take on the role of understanding/mutilating parent instead.

    Not controversial at all apparently
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.

    Good luck girls!

    M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.

    Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.

    Fuck off.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,640 Founders Club
    edited April 2023
    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.

    Good luck girls!

    M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.

    Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.

    Fuck off.
    The intent of the thread wasn't to humiliate HHusky again (nice and expected biproduct though), it was to ask people like you that are all in for Ron if this bill was going to be a liability for him in the general election?
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited April 2023
    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.

    Good luck girls!

    M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.

    Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.

    Fuck off.
    The intent of the thread wasn't to humiliate HHusky again (nice and expected biproduct though), it was to ask people like you that are all in for Ron if this bill was going to be a liability for him in the general election?
    Abortion will always be a liability for any GOP candidate until they learn how to articulate their position.

    This is like akin to saying if you do X, the Sun will get a few degrees hotter.

    He’s not going to lose voters who can’t pay their mortgage over this, if they’re blaming Biden and his policies.

    The GOP contender will have a target rich environment of issues that effect everyday Americans that they can use to hammer whatever slug the DIMS roll out in 2024.

    As for Dazzler?

    As always, FTG.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886
    edited April 2023
    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.

    Good luck girls!

    M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.

    Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.

    Fuck off.
    The intent of the thread wasn't to humiliate HHusky again (nice and expected biproduct though), it was to ask people like you that are all in for Ron if this bill was going to be a liability for him in the general election?
    Stay calm. There is no problem.

    https://news.yahoo.com/wide-majority-americans-back-abortion-134222056.html

    Stick to your guns! Abortion is murder!
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,844
    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.

    Good luck girls!

    M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.

    Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.

    Fuck off.
    The intent of the thread wasn't to humiliate HHusky again (nice and expected biproduct though), it was to ask people like you that are all in for Ron if this bill was going to be a liability for him in the general election?
    Abortion will always be a liability for any GOP candidate until they learn how to articulate their position.

    This is like akin to saying if you do X, the Sun will get a few degrees hotter.

    He’s not going to lose voters who can’t pay their mortgage over this, if they’re blaming Biden and his policies.

    The GOP contender will have a target rich environment of issues that effect everyday Americans that they can use to hammer whatever slug the DIMS roll out in 2024.

    As for Dazzler?

    As always, FTG.
    Like a black Little Mermaid and drag queen reading hour?

    DeSantis could be your guy, but he is building quite the laundry list of talking points against him. It may be Trump by default at this point.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.

    Good luck girls!

    M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.

    Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.

    Fuck off.
    The intent of the thread wasn't to humiliate HHusky again (nice and expected biproduct though), it was to ask people like you that are all in for Ron if this bill was going to be a liability for him in the general election?
    Stay calm. There is no problem.

    https://news.yahoo.com/wide-majority-americans-back-abortion-134222056.html

    Stick to your guns! Abortion is murder!
    Your girls are safe Dazzler.

    Abortions all around, let’s celebrate!

    Fuck off.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    MelloDawg said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.

    Good luck girls!

    M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.

    Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.

    Fuck off.
    The intent of the thread wasn't to humiliate HHusky again (nice and expected biproduct though), it was to ask people like you that are all in for Ron if this bill was going to be a liability for him in the general election?
    Abortion will always be a liability for any GOP candidate until they learn how to articulate their position.

    This is like akin to saying if you do X, the Sun will get a few degrees hotter.

    He’s not going to lose voters who can’t pay their mortgage over this, if they’re blaming Biden and his policies.

    The GOP contender will have a target rich environment of issues that effect everyday Americans that they can use to hammer whatever slug the DIMS roll out in 2024.

    As for Dazzler?

    As always, FTG.
    Like a black Little Mermaid and drag queen reading hour?

    DeSantis could be your guy, but he is building quite the laundry list of talking points against him. It may be Trump by default at this point.
    No, the economy and all of the geopolitical failings of the stooge you helped to put in the WH will have more weight with the non-stupid voters.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,017
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Playing stupid, girls? Or not playing at all?

    Congrats on staking out the total ban on abortion position. Good luck the rest of the way.

    Link?

    I've said numerous times first trimester

    Ask @creepycoug

    Just because you vote for abortion till birth is no reason to lie
    Your boy Ron is gonna sign the six week bill. Your judges want to ban the morning after pill. It's a ban.

    Good luck in 2024.
    You're all going to be well done at the end of times, so 14 weeks, 3 mos, beating heart, 69 days, it doesn't matter. It matters to our sensibilities, of course, but that doesn't drive the analysis.

    Of the million or so topics discussed on the Tug pitting right against left, you are all ironically on the same side now. Mellow, Bob, Race, HHusky, Oregon Bros, Pawz ... all the same. And the last men standing are Sleddy, Creep and Roadtrip. RIP Mike Damone, who also had clarity on this most compelling of issues.

    In the end, "I don't get it" isn't going to play well.

    #thecatholicshaditright
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    MelloDawg said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    Recent polling finds the six-week abortion ban is not popular among Florida residents of either political party. A University of North Florida poll in March found 75% of 1,452 respondents said they either somewhat or strongly opposed the six-week ban. That included 61% of Republicans.

    Good luck girls!

    M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N.

    Don’t worry Dazzler your girls can get as many abortions as they want. They don’t live in FL.

    Fuck off.
    The intent of the thread wasn't to humiliate HHusky again (nice and expected biproduct though), it was to ask people like you that are all in for Ron if this bill was going to be a liability for him in the general election?
    Abortion will always be a liability for any GOP candidate until they learn how to articulate their position.

    This is like akin to saying if you do X, the Sun will get a few degrees hotter.

    He’s not going to lose voters who can’t pay their mortgage over this, if they’re blaming Biden and his policies.

    The GOP contender will have a target rich environment of issues that effect everyday Americans that they can use to hammer whatever slug the DIMS roll out in 2024.

    As for Dazzler?

    As always, FTG.
    Like a black Little Mermaid and drag queen reading hour?

    DeSantis could be your guy, but he is building quite the laundry list of talking points against him. It may be Trump by default at this point.
    lol ANYONE the GOP runs will be Trump Hitler to centrists like you.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,683 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2023
    Life starts at conception. A completely innocent life that has committed no sin.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886
    edited April 2023

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Playing stupid, girls? Or not playing at all?

    Congrats on staking out the total ban on abortion position. Good luck the rest of the way.

    Link?

    I've said numerous times first trimester

    Ask @creepycoug

    Just because you vote for abortion till birth is no reason to lie
    Your boy Ron is gonna sign the six week bill. Your judges want to ban the morning after pill. It's a ban.

    Good luck in 2024.
    You're all going to be well done at the end of times, so 14 weeks, 3 mos, beating heart, 69 days, it doesn't matter. It matters to our sensibilities, of course, but that doesn't drive the analysis.

    Of the million or so topics discussed on the Tug pitting right against left, you are all ironically on the same side now. Mellow, Bob, Race, HHusky, Oregon Bros, Pawz ... all the same. And the last men standing are Sleddy, Creep and Roadtrip. RIP Mike Damone, who also had clarity on this most compelling of issues.

    In the end, "I don't get it" isn't going to play well.

    #thecatholicshaditright
    Heaven for the climate

    Hell for the company

    #MyFamilyPlanningAdvisorsAreElderlyCelibates
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886
    Sledog said:

    Life starts at conception. A completely innocent life that has committed no sin.

    Policy by bumper sticker!
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,206
    This is where any reasonable human being should step back and evaluate each side and how they approach this debate.

    - GOP is against the government funded mass extinguishing of life, whether it’s 1 week, 7 weeks or third trimester. No equivocation. No twisting themselves into pretzels to define what a human life is. Killing babies is wrong and we shouldn’t do it.

    - DNC is the side that runs all of these mental gymnastics to define where a viable life begin(cluster of cells, heartbeat, birth etc etc) in order to justify the so-called right to extinguish a life. That right, as it turns out, is nowhere in our constitution.

    I’m not saying the debate isn’t important or valid. I’m just pointing out that one side is pretty cut and dry on the issue while the other side is continuously dancing around in an attempt to convince people that a life isn’t really a life until XYZ in order make infanticide a little more palatable to the general public.

    Maybe that’s why there is no amendment that outlines this right. You can’t advocate for it as a legislator without addressing the reality of state-sponsored baby murder, and there just aren’t enough people in Congress willing to carry that water. You’ve had 4 decades to get it done after RvW, and you locked the can down the road.

    So I get the frustration but I also get the position of conservatives that say the right to LIFE, Liberty. And the pursuit of happiness allows them to pursue restrictions on abortion, leaving aside the obvious moral argument that can be made.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886
    edited April 2023

    Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.

    Are we still for democracy or no?

    Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men

    Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea

    This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"

    You girls got what you wished for. (There's a saying about that, you know.) It's not anti-democratic to say you'll reap the "rewards". In fact, that is democracy.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,640 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Florida legislators and the governor are elected officials.

    Are we still for democracy or no?

    Not sure why H hates democracy so much. Doesn't effect Washington state or fat old men

    Nevermind that no one here thinks its a good idea

    This is the bankrupt nature of the left's "platform"

    You girls got what you wished for. (There's a saying about that, you know.) It's not anti-democratic to say you'll reap the "rewards". In fact, that is democracy.
    You got what you voted for. I will continue to pay the taxes that I voted against at gun point.