Another American institution the left has destroyed........

HHusky said:

Sledog said:

HHusky said:

thechatch said:

HHusky said:

thechatch said:

HHusky said:

thechatch said:

HHusky said:

thechatch said:

HHusky said:

thechatch said:

HHusky said:

Imagine our cheery band of “thinkers” considering a labor shortage in the civilian economy as JUST PERHAPS a part of the equation.

Want soldiers? Pay ‘em.

It wasn’t our decision to raise the MW to 20.00/hr and then spend ourselves into 9% inflation.

GI Bill still pays for college, and these days that’s a lot of money, tax free. Two years active duty gets 80% of all tuition handled by Uncle Sam. That’s pretty damn good.

You can argue with the market or meet it. It’s a good time to be a job seeker and most workers retain the freedom to change jobs easily. What’s the minimum commitment required by the Armed Services?

2 years active and then some kind of reservist duty following, IIRC.

MS is a good deal, provided you aren’t being sent to a place like Iraq, Ukraine or Afghanistan to fight in some war for corrupt politicians and their defense contractor donor base.

The military has always been a jobs program to some degree. It can’t realistically be an at will employer though. So when the demand for workers is high it has trouble finding and retaining them.

Whining about “wokeness” is still just whining.

I don’t think I was ever whining about anything, but let’s assume the recent “wokeness” of the military is a flashpoint issue for some on the board here, or with a percentage of potential enrollees…

Do you have data points that suggest this recent cultural policy pivot has been a net positive for enrollment?

Are you telling me we’d be even worse off with military recruitment if we didn’t have transgender awareness week as part of basic training?

Or are you just saying that, given the current job market, a two year salaried commitment to active duty that gets the vast majority of your college tuition paid for just isn’t good enough for the kids these days, and we need to re-think what we comp our recruits.

Because while I’m willing to entertain a discussion on the latter, the former is fucking stupid.

There is a lot of bullshit people put up with in large employer organizations if the pay and benefits are right. The Armed Forces have to do more when people have perceived alternatives. They aren’t the only employers that offer pay and benefits.

A kid can go to work at Dicks and get some tuition assistance. He can also quit instantly in favor of a better job.

When the civilian opportunities are there, or perceived to be, military recruitment will struggle. When civilian opportunities are few, sitting through some lecture on inclusiveness just isn’t a big deal. You just sleep with your eyes open and wait it out.

And that’s not to ignore the fact that your civilian employer may also have some woke nonsense for you to pretend to care about.

You’re gonna tell me that Dick’s sporting goods offers a competitive salary compensation and college tuition program with the United States Military?

https://www.ddir.com/employment/

No two year commitment to work at Dicks. You’re still free to explore your civilian opportunities.

You girls were for low unemployment before you were against it.

Now you want to tell me that minimum wage + a 28k one time endowment is competitive with the US Military? 28k ain’t 80% of tuition unless we’re talking about community college.

If I’m 18, a two year run with the army before having my college essentially paid for sounds better than working at Dicks, even with the market freedom to go get a job at McDonald’s if I decide I don’t like re-stocking soccer cleats.

Oh wait it sounds like McDonald’s isn’t hiring right now…..

Also I’m not a girl, HH.

Unemployment is 3.6%. And you trannies can’t figure out why that affects military recruitment.

You wanted to have a serious conversation, but we’re one serious thinker short.

Since your side wipes millions off the unemployment roles to cook the employment rate numbers you quoting it just makes you a bigger bullshitter than they are.

gatewaypundit cocksucker says he's got the real figures.

WestlinnDuck said:

Who wouldn't want to be a part of this proud national institution that defends our country?

https://ace.mu.nu/

46XiJCAB said:

HHusky said:

thechatch said:

SFGbob said:

Would any of you tell your 18 year old that they should sign up to serve under Biden after watching the Afghanistan withdrawl cluster fuck? Young men who want to fight in order to prove themselves aren't too keen about serving under a bunch of fucking trannies. While that maybe Dazzler and Mello's dream job that's not what most young males who aren't pole smokers are into.

Dick’s Sporting Goods

embarrassing

but so likeable

Small business bankruptcies are up over 18% Feb. 22 to Feb. 23. But don't worry the unemployment rate is 3.6% and Joey says everything is rosy. Potential military recruits have so many job opportunities they don't know which one too choose.

You're stupid and dishonest.

Fuck off.

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

If you are no longer eligible to collect unemployment you are no longer unemployed

According to experts and scientists

U-3 is low. U-6 is low.

You're just making shit up.

Bendintheriver said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

If you are no longer eligible to collect unemployment you are no longer unemployed

According to experts and scientists

U-3 is low. U-6 is low.

You're just making shit up.

Everyone is fine. A rat is in charge. How typical for elitist rats/socialists to claim that the little people are doing fine. No worries.

Pathetic and anti-American.

thechatch said:

SFGbob said:

Would any of you tell your 18 year old that they should sign up to serve under Biden after watching the Afghanistan withdrawl cluster fuck? Young men who want to fight in order to prove themselves aren't too keen about serving under a bunch of fucking trannies. While that maybe Dazzler and Mello's dream job that's not what most young males who aren't pole smokers are into.

FINALLY someone brought this up. I knew HH was going to die on his Dick’s Sporting Goods Hill, and I was wondering which one of you might bring up the fact that the current admin abandoned troops and handed an entire country along with tens of billions in equipment over to a terror organization.

That’s pretty hard to message out on a recruiting presentation at the local HS r community college.

It may not even be offset by the commitment to be inclusive to transgenders.

HH care to take a stab at that one?

thechatch said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

If you are no longer eligible to collect unemployment you are no longer unemployed

According to experts and scientists

U-3 is low. U-6 is low.

You're just making shit up.

Both of those metrics tend to paint a rosier picture of the labor market because they fail to include people who have dropped out of the labor market altogether. U-3 fails to even include those forced into part-time work.

Labor force participation rate is really the best indicator, but you already knew that.

MelloDawg said:

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

HHusky said:

thechatch said:

HHusky said:

thechatch said:

HHusky said:

thechatch said:

HHusky said:

thechatch said:

HHusky said:

thechatch said:

HHusky said:

Imagine our cheery band of “thinkers” considering a labor shortage in the civilian economy as JUST PERHAPS a part of the equation.

Want soldiers? Pay ‘em.

It wasn’t our decision to raise the MW to 20.00/hr and then spend ourselves into 9% inflation.

GI Bill still pays for college, and these days that’s a lot of money, tax free. Two years active duty gets 80% of all tuition handled by Uncle Sam. That’s pretty damn good.

You can argue with the market or meet it. It’s a good time to be a job seeker and most workers retain the freedom to change jobs easily. What’s the minimum commitment required by the Armed Services?

2 years active and then some kind of reservist duty following, IIRC.

MS is a good deal, provided you aren’t being sent to a place like Iraq, Ukraine or Afghanistan to fight in some war for corrupt politicians and their defense contractor donor base.

The military has always been a jobs program to some degree. It can’t realistically be an at will employer though. So when the demand for workers is high it has trouble finding and retaining them.

Whining about “wokeness” is still just whining.

I don’t think I was ever whining about anything, but let’s assume the recent “wokeness” of the military is a flashpoint issue for some on the board here, or with a percentage of potential enrollees…

Do you have data points that suggest this recent cultural policy pivot has been a net positive for enrollment?

Are you telling me we’d be even worse off with military recruitment if we didn’t have transgender awareness week as part of basic training?

Or are you just saying that, given the current job market, a two year salaried commitment to active duty that gets the vast majority of your college tuition paid for just isn’t good enough for the kids these days, and we need to re-think what we comp our recruits.

Because while I’m willing to entertain a discussion on the latter, the former is fucking stupid.

There is a lot of bullshit people put up with in large employer organizations if the pay and benefits are right. The Armed Forces have to do more when people have perceived alternatives. They aren’t the only employers that offer pay and benefits.

A kid can go to work at Dicks and get some tuition assistance. He can also quit instantly in favor of a better job.

When the civilian opportunities are there, or perceived to be, military recruitment will struggle. When civilian opportunities are few, sitting through some lecture on inclusiveness just isn’t a big deal. You just sleep with your eyes open and wait it out.

And that’s not to ignore the fact that your civilian employer may also have some woke nonsense for you to pretend to care about.

You’re gonna tell me that Dick’s sporting goods offers a competitive salary compensation and college tuition program with the United States Military?

https://www.ddir.com/employment/

No two year commitment to work at Dicks. You’re still free to explore your civilian opportunities.

You girls were for low unemployment before you were against it.

Now you want to tell me that minimum wage + a 28k one time endowment is competitive with the US Military? 28k ain’t 80% of tuition unless we’re talking about community college.

If I’m 18, a two year run with the army before having my college essentially paid for sounds better than working at Dicks, even with the market freedom to go get a job at McDonald’s if I decide I don’t like re-stocking soccer cleats.

Oh wait it sounds like McDonald’s isn’t hiring right now…..

Also I’m not a girl, HH.

Unemployment is 3.6%. And you trannies can’t figure out why that affects military recruitment.

You wanted to have a serious conversation, but we’re one serious thinker short.

Right, woke bullshit has zero to do with it. That's why they can't find the physically and mentally qualified.

Not sure what that is. Can you define it?