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I'm all for speeding up the game but this is BS
SFGbob
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Another season not to watch baseball. When is the last time an NBA player lost a FT for a 10 sec. violation.
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I'm all for the current rule changes. With the use of all the relievers no one wants to sit in the sun for 3 and a half hours. Get in the box and be ready to hit. If Portland had a competitive team I'd watch parts of about a third of the games on TV and go to about 5 games a year and I grew up a huge baseball fan. In 1964 there were 20 MLB teams and most pitchers went deep into the game. Today, there aren't enough players to prop up 30 teams. With the money disparity between a few of the top teams, most teams can't be competitive for more than a couple of years and then the big boys take their top names. In the early 80's, I'd have my wife to be read me the box scores in the car when we were driving to Central Oregon. Today, I couldn't name you one player on at least 25 of the MLB teams.SFGbob said: -
It's called Americas favorite "pastime" because that's supposed to be one of our favorite ways to "pass the time".
What's the rush?
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Put the clock on the pitcher. If the batter ain't ready to hit that's on him. Clock shouldn't be on the hitter and a game should never end like this.
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I think we would see the same problem, because the pitcher can wind up and then step off and throw to first or to fake out the runner.SFGbob said:Put the clock on the pitcher. If the batter ain't ready to hit that's on him. Clock shouldn't be on the hitter and a game should never end like this.
Now if a clock is on him how many times does he get to delay before the batter walks?
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Aren't they limited in the number of times they can throw over to 1st now?Blueduck said:
I think we would see the same problem, because the pitcher can wind up and then step off and throw to first or to fake out the runner.SFGbob said:Put the clock on the pitcher. If the batter ain't ready to hit that's on him. Clock shouldn't be on the hitter and a game should never end like this.
Now if a clock is on him how many times does he get to delay before the batter walks?
I say leave the game alone -
I think we would see the same problem, because the picher caSFGbob said:Put the clock on the pitcher. If the batter ain't ready to hit that's on him. Clock shouldn't be on the hitter and a game should never end like this.
I did not know they changed that if they did.SFGbob said:
Aren't they limited in the number of times they can throw over to 1st now?Blueduck said:
I think we would see the same problem, because the pitcher can wind up and then step off and throw to first or to fake out the runner.SFGbob said:Put the clock on the pitcher. If the batter ain't ready to hit that's on him. Clock shouldn't be on the hitter and a game should never end like this.
Now if a clock is on him how many times does he get to delay before the batter walks?
I say leave the game alone
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After two “disengagements,” a pitcher can no longer throw over to first base — or any base — unless he then picks off the runner. If the runner isn't out, it's a balk.Feb 14, 2023
I actually like this because it will lead to more action on the basepaths. A lot more stolen bases and ground ball hits coming this year. -
Baseball used to be a day game played in big cities with a strong public transportation system. Take an afternoon off work, go to Wrigley Field have some beers and then take the L train home. No rush. Today, driving into Chevez Ravine and then getting out of the stadium after a 3 hour game that ends after 10:00 PM and end up at home at midnight doesn't sound so relaxing. An upper deck ticket for the Mets game on April 18th is $77. Taking a family of four for a middle class family isn't going to be a monthly thing. World Series games go to after midnight. When I lost interest, you are doing something really wrong. The current generation has no interest. I can still tell you the starting infields for the Cincy Reds from the 70's and the KC Royals from the 80s. Can't name a single player on either team today.Blueduck said:It's called Americas favorite "pastime" because that's supposed to be one of our favorite ways to "pass the time".
What's the rush? -
The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.
Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play. -
That's because we're old, I can't tell you what I had for dinner last night either.WestlinnDuck said:
Baseball used to be a day game played in big cities with a strong public transportation system. Take an afternoon off work, go to Wrigley Field have some beers and then take the L train home. No rush. Today, driving into Chevez Ravine and then getting out of the stadium after a 3 hour game that ends after 10:00 PM and end up at home at midnight doesn't sound so relaxing. An upper deck ticket for the Mets game on April 18th is $77. Taking a family of four for a middle class family isn't going to be a monthly thing. World Series games go to after midnight. When I lost interest, you are doing something really wrong. The current generation has no interest. I can still tell you the starting infields for the Cincy Reds from the 70's and the KC Royals from the 80s. Can't name a single player on either team today.Blueduck said:It's called Americas favorite "pastime" because that's supposed to be one of our favorite ways to "pass the time".
What's the rush?
Quick, name for me one song in the top 40 today. -
Lots of kids still playing youth baseball but the number of black kids doing it is still in decline.Doogles said:The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.
Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play. -
There still is a top 40?SFGbob said:
That's because we're old, I can't tell you what I had for dinner last night either.WestlinnDuck said:
Baseball used to be a day game played in big cities with a strong public transportation system. Take an afternoon off work, go to Wrigley Field have some beers and then take the L train home. No rush. Today, driving into Chevez Ravine and then getting out of the stadium after a 3 hour game that ends after 10:00 PM and end up at home at midnight doesn't sound so relaxing. An upper deck ticket for the Mets game on April 18th is $77. Taking a family of four for a middle class family isn't going to be a monthly thing. World Series games go to after midnight. When I lost interest, you are doing something really wrong. The current generation has no interest. I can still tell you the starting infields for the Cincy Reds from the 70's and the KC Royals from the 80s. Can't name a single player on either team today.Blueduck said:It's called Americas favorite "pastime" because that's supposed to be one of our favorite ways to "pass the time".
What's the rush? Quick, name for me one song in the top 40 today. -
I think we would see the same problemSFGbob said:Put the clock on the pitcher. If the batter ain't ready to hit that's on him. Clock shouldn't be on the hitter and a game should never end like this.
I still have a Pete Rose Baseball card (pre scandal of course) and Dusty Baker card saved from the bubble gum packs they came from. . Reds and Royals were my favorite teams and played on little league teams with the same names.WestlinnDuck said:
Baseball used to be a day game played in big cities with a strong public transportation system. Take an afternoon off work, go to Wrigley Field have some beers and then take the L train home. No rush. Today, driving into Chevez Ravine and then getting out of the stadium after a 3 hour game that ends after 10:00 PM and end up at home at midnight doesn't sound so relaxing. An upper deck ticket for the Mets game on April 18th is $77. Taking a family of four for a middle class family isn't going to be a monthly thing. World Series games go to after midnight. When I lost interest, you are doing something really wrong. The current generation has no interest. I can still tell you the starting infields for the Cincy Reds from the 70's and the KC Royals from the 80s. Can't name a single player on either team today.Blueduck said:It's called Americas favorite "pastime" because that's supposed to be one of our favorite ways to "pass the time".
What's the rush?
Ive tried to be a Mariners fan for 30+ years but lost the capacity to be interested or exited after Dave Niehuas passed.
I took the 174 at Seatac to the kingdome to see my first Mariners game in 88 -
My son played baseball and then gave it up for basketball. He loved basketball practice. Hated baseball practice. Hated football practice the most.SFGbob said:
Lots of kids still playing youth baseball but the number of black kids doing it is still in decline.Doogles said:The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.
Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play. -
My oldest played basball up until college ball. The limits of his skills were revealed to him then. He had a good run, played longer than most. I always wish I could have been good enough to play college level basketball. Not a chance.WestlinnDuck said:
My son played baseball and then gave it up for basketball. He loved basketball practice. Hated baseball practice. Hated football practice the most.SFGbob said:
Lots of kids still playing youth baseball but the number of black kids doing it is still in decline.Doogles said:The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.
Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play. -
I'd be curious what our? very own MLB scout says on this issue. Also no more shift in the game.
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I like getting rid of the shift. More base runners, more ground ball hits. Puts the hit and run more back in play.LaZoris said:I'd be curious what our? very own MLB scout says on this issue. Also no more shift in the game.
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Looks like the hitter fucked around and found out.SFGbob said:Put the clock on the pitcher. If the batter ain't ready to hit that's on him. Clock shouldn't be on the hitter and a game should never end like this.
Please put a major asterisk on this and note that this is a Spring Training game. Leagues always emphasize new rules much harder in the ramp up to the actual season. They'll still make examples of guys so that players stay on their toes, but I doubt game 7 of the World Series would be allowed to end in this manner. -
My brothers and I had the same high school baseball coach who's style was purely based on national league fundamentals. Get on base, move the runner over with a sacrifice and then bring them home with a ball up the middle. Combined we played in four state championship games (winning two). If I was hitting 7th with a man on first and less than two outs, I didn't need to look for the bunt signal- it was on auto pilot. No dicking around with my batting gloves, no adjusting my helmet after every pitch. Just get in the box and be ready to hit. Our coach didn't have time for the delay crap, he wanted to back to the dugout for a smoke.SFGbob said:
I like getting rid of the shift. More base runners, more ground ball hits. Puts the hit and run more back in play.LaZoris said:I'd be curious what our? very own MLB scout says on this issue. Also no more shift in the game.
Our only shift was corners even with the bags and up the middle at double play depth with runners on first and third.
The smell of fresh cut grass still takes me back to Eugene in the early 80's. -
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Actually, parents have gone insane with all travel sports. Organizations are making millions of dollars alluring parents to spend tens of thousands a year having their kid play travel baseball, basketball, football, softball and volleyball; because everyone believes they will get a college scholarship and then go pro. It's insane and I've been smack dab in the middle of it. We've lost our? fucking minds.Doogles said:The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.
Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play. -
The little I’ve seen has varied from interesting to disturbing. The disturbing part is that were I still working, there would be more time to drink postgame…as for no shift, I like it.LaZoris said:I'd be curious what our? very own MLB scout says on this issue. Also no more shift in the game.
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Our local grade school where I grew up was like a perpetual version of Sandlot. Actually playing baseball is a lot of fun. We would play workup and players would come an go throughout the day. Baseball diamond busy, outdoor basketball hoops silent. Workup game at grade school for recess when school started and then start up again in May when the weather got better. Kids brought their gloves to school. Today, a bunch of fifth graders playing unsupervised at the grade school would bring some CSD visits. I would take my four year old brother and turn him loose on the playground equipment while I played baseball.Doogles said:The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.
Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play. -
Embarrassed to say I did travel baseball with my oldest. Travelling to AZ and Texas and SoCal to play in tournaments when you could find all the competitive baseball and talented opposition you wanted within 100 miles of where I live. I have to admit, regret all the money I spent on it but I did get great enjoyment out of watching him play, made some good friends with some of the other kids dads. It helps a lot if your kid is good and he plays. Some of these guys would spend all that money on it and their kid was a pitcher only or didn't play that much. I'm sure they really regret it.RoadTrip said:
Actually, parents have gone insane with all travel sports. Organizations are making millions of dollars alluring parents to spend tens of thousands a year having their kid play travel baseball, basketball, football, softball and volleyball; because everyone believes they will get a college scholarship and then go pro. It's insane and I've been smack dab in the middle of it. We've lost our? fucking minds.Doogles said:The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.
Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play. -
I recall going to the neighborhood park when I lived in Seattle and playing pickup baseball. You know that doesn't happen today. If you didn't have enough players you got rid of 3rd base and made the field the area from 1st to 2nd base. You could play with 5 or 6 guys that way.WestlinnDuck said:
Our local grade school where I grew up was like a perpetual version of Sandlot. Actually playing baseball is a lot of fun. We would play workup and players would come an go throughout the day. Baseball diamond busy, outdoor basketball hoops silent. Workup game at grade school for recess when school started and then start up again in May when the weather got better. Kids brought their gloves to school. Today, a bunch of fifth graders playing unsupervised at the grade school would bring some CSD visits. I would take my four year old brother and turn him loose on the playground equipment while I played baseball.Doogles said:The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.
Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play. -
We did soccer for our daughter- I can't count how much we spent but I would do it again in a heartbeat. Being an only child, this was her group of sisters and friends she'll have for a lifetime. For the wife and me- it was a group of friends that we still have today even after our girls have gone to college.SFGbob said:
Embarrassed to say I did travel baseball with my oldest. Travelling to AZ and Texas and SoCal to play in tournaments when you could find all the competitive baseball and talented opposition you wanted within 100 miles of where I live. I have to admit, regret all the money I spent on it but I did get great enjoyment out of watching him play, made some good friends with some of the other kids dads. It helps a lot if your kid is good and he plays. Some of these guys would spend all that money on it and their kid was a pitcher only or didn't play that much. I'm sure they really regret it.RoadTrip said:
Actually, parents have gone insane with all travel sports. Organizations are making millions of dollars alluring parents to spend tens of thousands a year having their kid play travel baseball, basketball, football, softball and volleyball; because everyone believes they will get a college scholarship and then go pro. It's insane and I've been smack dab in the middle of it. We've lost our? fucking minds.Doogles said:The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.
Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play.
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We weren't paying tens of thousands but both our kids played high school basketball and my daughter played high school softball. AAU basketball in the offseason and ASA softball in the summer. Travel was generally restricted to Oregon and Washington with trips to LA for Christmas vacation basketball for the son's high school team and for one summer trip to Hawaii for my daughter's team and one trip to Tahoe. These were generally trips we would have made anyway. I agree with Georgia that it was definitely worth it for the kids' social and team building skills and for the friendships we made with the other parents. It's not for everyone, your kids have to want to play, not forced to play and you have to love watching your kids play. I worked with people whose worst nightmare would have been a weekend at the ball field or gym with their kids. Take away time from golf and Saturday night parties while the kids stayed at home.georgiaduck said:
We did soccer for our daughter- I can't count how much we spent but I would do it again in a heartbeat. Being an only child, this was her group of sisters and friends she'll have for a lifetime. For the wife and me- it was a group of friends that we still have today even after our girls have gone to college.SFGbob said:
Embarrassed to say I did travel baseball with my oldest. Travelling to AZ and Texas and SoCal to play in tournaments when you could find all the competitive baseball and talented opposition you wanted within 100 miles of where I live. I have to admit, regret all the money I spent on it but I did get great enjoyment out of watching him play, made some good friends with some of the other kids dads. It helps a lot if your kid is good and he plays. Some of these guys would spend all that money on it and their kid was a pitcher only or didn't play that much. I'm sure they really regret it.RoadTrip said:
Actually, parents have gone insane with all travel sports. Organizations are making millions of dollars alluring parents to spend tens of thousands a year having their kid play travel baseball, basketball, football, softball and volleyball; because everyone believes they will get a college scholarship and then go pro. It's insane and I've been smack dab in the middle of it. We've lost our? fucking minds.Doogles said:The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.
Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play. -
Went to my nephew's baseball game last weekend, my big takeaway is that I'm getting some sort of comfy chair to bring when my kids get old enough for this stuff. Sitting on those metal bleachers sucks.WestlinnDuck said:
We weren't paying tens of thousands but both our kids played high school basketball and my daughter played high school softball. AAU basketball in the offseason and ASA softball in the summer. Travel was generally restricted to Oregon and Washington with trips to LA for Christmas vacation basketball for the son's high school team and for one summer trip to Hawaii for my daughter's team and one trip to Tahoe. These were generally trips we would have made anyway. I agree with Georgia that it was definitely worth it for the kids' social and team building skills and for the friendships we made with the other parents. It's not for everyone, your kids have to want to play, not forced to play and you have to love watching your kids play. I worked with people whose worst nightmare would have been a weekend at the ball field or gym with their kids. Take away time from golf and Saturday night parties while the kids stayed at home.georgiaduck said:
We did soccer for our daughter- I can't count how much we spent but I would do it again in a heartbeat. Being an only child, this was her group of sisters and friends she'll have for a lifetime. For the wife and me- it was a group of friends that we still have today even after our girls have gone to college.SFGbob said:
Embarrassed to say I did travel baseball with my oldest. Travelling to AZ and Texas and SoCal to play in tournaments when you could find all the competitive baseball and talented opposition you wanted within 100 miles of where I live. I have to admit, regret all the money I spent on it but I did get great enjoyment out of watching him play, made some good friends with some of the other kids dads. It helps a lot if your kid is good and he plays. Some of these guys would spend all that money on it and their kid was a pitcher only or didn't play that much. I'm sure they really regret it.RoadTrip said:
Actually, parents have gone insane with all travel sports. Organizations are making millions of dollars alluring parents to spend tens of thousands a year having their kid play travel baseball, basketball, football, softball and volleyball; because everyone believes they will get a college scholarship and then go pro. It's insane and I've been smack dab in the middle of it. We've lost our? fucking minds.Doogles said:The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.
Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play. -
Get one of these with the two cup holders. Pretty comfy.Bob_C said:
Went to my nephew's baseball game last weekend, my big takeaway is that I'm getting some sort of comfy chair to bring when my kids get old enough for this stuff. Sitting on those metal bleachers sucks.WestlinnDuck said:
We weren't paying tens of thousands but both our kids played high school basketball and my daughter played high school softball. AAU basketball in the offseason and ASA softball in the summer. Travel was generally restricted to Oregon and Washington with trips to LA for Christmas vacation basketball for the son's high school team and for one summer trip to Hawaii for my daughter's team and one trip to Tahoe. These were generally trips we would have made anyway. I agree with Georgia that it was definitely worth it for the kids' social and team building skills and for the friendships we made with the other parents. It's not for everyone, your kids have to want to play, not forced to play and you have to love watching your kids play. I worked with people whose worst nightmare would have been a weekend at the ball field or gym with their kids. Take away time from golf and Saturday night parties while the kids stayed at home.georgiaduck said:
We did soccer for our daughter- I can't count how much we spent but I would do it again in a heartbeat. Being an only child, this was her group of sisters and friends she'll have for a lifetime. For the wife and me- it was a group of friends that we still have today even after our girls have gone to college.SFGbob said:
Embarrassed to say I did travel baseball with my oldest. Travelling to AZ and Texas and SoCal to play in tournaments when you could find all the competitive baseball and talented opposition you wanted within 100 miles of where I live. I have to admit, regret all the money I spent on it but I did get great enjoyment out of watching him play, made some good friends with some of the other kids dads. It helps a lot if your kid is good and he plays. Some of these guys would spend all that money on it and their kid was a pitcher only or didn't play that much. I'm sure they really regret it.RoadTrip said:
Actually, parents have gone insane with all travel sports. Organizations are making millions of dollars alluring parents to spend tens of thousands a year having their kid play travel baseball, basketball, football, softball and volleyball; because everyone believes they will get a college scholarship and then go pro. It's insane and I've been smack dab in the middle of it. We've lost our? fucking minds.Doogles said:The problem with baseball is that it requires organization, numbers, and equipment to build interest with the youths.
Most prefer to just grab a ball, pretend a crack on the wall is a hoop, and play.
