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Can we offer this Ukranian solider a scholarship?
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True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason. -
Your guy Joe has let the world go to shit. My guy Trump stopped wars and prevented wars.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Team America has managed to be a hegemon in a world with less conflict than at any other point in world history. Countries like Russia are trying to disrupt this. And no, dont equate middle East bullshit to a land war in fucking Europe.WestlinnDuck said:
None of us have Putin on our wall of great world leaders. On the other hand, PGOS will not concede that we are not Team America, World Police. We never voted for that, it's just used as an excuse to funnel money to the MIC. And when PGOS is asked to point to any success as Team America, World Police and how it benefits the US we just get ignored and he claims we are on Team Putin.46XiJCAB said:Someone has failed to grasp that some of us are not at our first rodeo.
When you can’t address what you’re being challenged with, you just poast FS shit like “Putin cocksuckers.”
This thread has become a one person virtue signaling parade for 40 pages now.
Give peace a chance. I remember when that was cool and not a sign of appeasement.
Team America has turned Japan and Germany from bloodthirsty conquerors to stable Democratic Allies
Team America saved South Korea from the commie horde, and now they went from a backwater to a tech giant and crucial ally.
Team America has had some blunders too, but even now countries like Vietnam are quasi allies because they fucking HATE china.
Being a total isolationist is not the move. Bitch and moan all you want, but America is number 1 and the world knows that. They do not want to fuck around and find out. -
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason. -
Back in the glory days that you mentioned it wasn't part of virtue signaling by a corrupt cabal of assholes that are on your teamPostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason.
The saber rattling and FREE PUB are fucking stupid like the people that support it. That's the scam and the mockery and Ukraine pays the price for Joey to get his cut and get re elected
Your team bro -
Look up Covert and get back to us
Trading Contra coke to Iran to get arms for the Contras was a neat idea
Until the democrats dropped the dime. Your team bro -
So Hirsch was right.
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iran Contra was a fantastic idea. Would have been better if they poisoned the blow!
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US had been advising and supplying then with things like javelins for a long timeBob_C said:
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason. -
Not my team.RaceBannon said:
Back in the glory days that you mentioned it wasn't part of virtue signaling by a corrupt cabal of assholes that are on your teamPostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason.
The saber rattling and FREE PUB are fucking stupid like the people that support it. That's the scam and the mockery and Ukraine pays the price for Joey to get his cut and get re elected
Your team bro
Russia thought they saw weakness and disunity in the west which is why they did this.
They didnt expext this shitshow, clearly. No one did. -
Yes and now we're short of all that stuff and production isn't what it used top be and will take years to catch up. Better hope China doesn't want to jump.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
US had been advising and supplying then with things like javelins for a long timeBob_C said:
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason. -
Javelins are old as shit dude. 80sSledog said:
Yes and now we're short of all that stuff and production isn't what it used top be and will take years to catch up. Better hope China doesn't want to jump.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
US had been advising and supplying then with things like javelins for a long timeBob_C said:
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason.
If the US is using javelins on China its because Chinese tanks are rolling around in Gorst.
In short, not gonna happen -
Ok, DominoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
We dont, and we should be thankful for that. Russia is likely done invading it's neighbors for good.WestlinnDuck said:
Hitler/Germany > Putin/Russia. When do we get to Soviet Union 2.0 with 5 million Russians under arms?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
If they had a successful Special Military Operation, Im sure a bunch of Stan countries, Moldova, etc. wouldve been next.
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Again, why do we care? I notice you left NATO countries off of that list, did everyone drop that talking point?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Javelins are old as shit dude. 80sSledog said:
Yes and now we're short of all that stuff and production isn't what it used top be and will take years to catch up. Better hope China doesn't want to jump.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
US had been advising and supplying then with things like javelins for a long timeBob_C said:
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason.
If the US is using javelins on China its because Chinese tanks are rolling around in Gorst.
In short, not gonna happen -
Everyone knows we would have to go all in for Moldova.Bob_C said:
Again, why do we care? I notice you left NATO countries off of that list, did everyone drop that talking point?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Javelins are old as shit dude. 80sSledog said:
Yes and now we're short of all that stuff and production isn't what it used top be and will take years to catch up. Better hope China doesn't want to jump.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
US had been advising and supplying then with things like javelins for a long timeBob_C said:
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason.
If the US is using javelins on China its because Chinese tanks are rolling around in Gorst.
In short, not gonna happen -
Dimwitty, even arty shell stocks are way down and production way behind. javelins aren't new but they are frontline weapons for infantry. Quit making excuses for your cause celeb. We do not need a world war. HTHPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Javelins are old as shit dude. 80sSledog said:
Yes and now we're short of all that stuff and production isn't what it used top be and will take years to catch up. Better hope China doesn't want to jump.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
US had been advising and supplying then with things like javelins for a long timeBob_C said:
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason.
If the US is using javelins on China its because Chinese tanks are rolling around in Gorst.
In short, not gonna happen -
There isnt a world war. Not even close to one.Sledog said:
Dimwitty, even arty shell stocks are way down and production way behind. javelins aren't new but they are frontline weapons for infantry. Quit making excuses for your cause celeb. We do not need a world war. HTHPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Javelins are old as shit dude. 80sSledog said:
Yes and now we're short of all that stuff and production isn't what it used top be and will take years to catch up. Better hope China doesn't want to jump.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
US had been advising and supplying then with things like javelins for a long timeBob_C said:
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason.
If the US is using javelins on China its because Chinese tanks are rolling around in Gorst.
In short, not gonna happen
Hth -
Would it be safe to call the US and Norway a "Pro-Ukrainian Group"?Bob_C said:So Hirsch was right.
Axeing for a fren.
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Lot's of military sh*t is from the 1980s or earlier. M1 Tank 1980. F-16s that Ukraine wants 1978. B-52s 1955. The Javelin anti-tank missile was introduced in 1996. Other than that, you pretty much didn't make any point or sense at all.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Javelins are old as shit dude. 80sSledog said:
Yes and now we're short of all that stuff and production isn't what it used top be and will take years to catch up. Better hope China doesn't want to jump.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
US had been advising and supplying then with things like javelins for a long timeBob_C said:
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason.
If the US is using javelins on China its because Chinese tanks are rolling around in Gorst.
In short, not gonna happen -
Then why are 'we' there?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
There isnt a world war. Not even close to one.Sledog said:
Dimwitty, even arty shell stocks are way down and production way behind. javelins aren't new but they are frontline weapons for infantry. Quit making excuses for your cause celeb. We do not need a world war. HTHPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Javelins are old as shit dude. 80sSledog said:
Yes and now we're short of all that stuff and production isn't what it used top be and will take years to catch up. Better hope China doesn't want to jump.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
US had been advising and supplying then with things like javelins for a long timeBob_C said:
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason.
If the US is using javelins on China its because Chinese tanks are rolling around in Gorst.
In short, not gonna happen
Hth
It's a regional skirmish, Domino.
Same as it ever was. Back to the 9th Century.
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When you're on team Billy (will shill for food) Kristol, you're on the wrong GD team. Every single time.PurpleThrobber said:
Chickenhawks can't cheer for peace.46XiJCAB said:
I didn’t name names.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Christ.46XiJCAB said:Someone has failed to grasp that some of us are not at our first rodeo.
When you can’t address what you’re being challenged with, you just poast FS shit like “Putin cocksuckers.”
This thread has become a one person virtue signaling parade for 40 pages now.
Give peace a chance. I remember when that was cool and not a sign of appeasement.
Bot and I have tried to help you see through the bullshit. We have posted a TON of information from a ton of different sources.
And we are the ones in denial?
Fuck off.
When you can’t see the difference between Team America and conflicts like WWI and WWII I don’t know what to tell you.
I’ve had enough of your “3000+ Russian tanks destroyed” sources.
I’m rooting for peace. You’re believing the BS that this will weaken Putin. Remember when the Left mocked Romney in 2012 for saying Russia was our greatest threat?
Where did they all go?
No profit in pacifism. -
No it's not. Poland was never in a position to beat back Germany. The Oregon blitzkrieg was new to warfare.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps -
None of that shit is part of the modern US arsenal except for maybe some Abrams that are so upgraded they don't even resemble the old shit. Abrams are in the process of getting phased out.WestlinnDuck said:
Lot's of military sh*t is from the 1980s or earlier. M1 Tank 1980. F-16s that Ukraine wants 1978. B-52s 1955. The Javelin anti-tank missile was introduced in 1996. Other than that, you pretty much didn't make any point or sense at all.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Javelins are old as shit dude. 80sSledog said:
Yes and now we're short of all that stuff and production isn't what it used top be and will take years to catch up. Better hope China doesn't want to jump.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
US had been advising and supplying then with things like javelins for a long timeBob_C said:
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason.
If the US is using javelins on China its because Chinese tanks are rolling around in Gorst.
In short, not gonna happen
You probably think the M16 is cutting edge. -
"we" aren't there.PurpleThrobber said:
Then why are 'we' there?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
There isnt a world war. Not even close to one.Sledog said:
Dimwitty, even arty shell stocks are way down and production way behind. javelins aren't new but they are frontline weapons for infantry. Quit making excuses for your cause celeb. We do not need a world war. HTHPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Javelins are old as shit dude. 80sSledog said:
Yes and now we're short of all that stuff and production isn't what it used top be and will take years to catch up. Better hope China doesn't want to jump.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
US had been advising and supplying then with things like javelins for a long timeBob_C said:
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason.
If the US is using javelins on China its because Chinese tanks are rolling around in Gorst.
In short, not gonna happen
Hth
It's a regional skirmish, Domino.
Same as it ever was. Back to the 9th Century.
"we" have some weapons there. "we" have been advising and have companies like Palantir providing intel.
"we" hope this helps -
Cute word play.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
"we" aren't there.PurpleThrobber said:
Then why are 'we' there?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
There isnt a world war. Not even close to one.Sledog said:
Dimwitty, even arty shell stocks are way down and production way behind. javelins aren't new but they are frontline weapons for infantry. Quit making excuses for your cause celeb. We do not need a world war. HTHPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Javelins are old as shit dude. 80sSledog said:
Yes and now we're short of all that stuff and production isn't what it used top be and will take years to catch up. Better hope China doesn't want to jump.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
US had been advising and supplying then with things like javelins for a long timeBob_C said:
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason.
If the US is using javelins on China its because Chinese tanks are rolling around in Gorst.
In short, not gonna happen
Hth
It's a regional skirmish, Domino.
Same as it ever was. Back to the 9th Century.
"we" have some weapons there. "we" have been advising and have companies like Palantir providing intel.
"we" hope this helps
"We" are sending taxpayer dollars.
"We" are by extension there. -
You probably think that the strawman is cutting ass. You think we sent 1996 javelins to the Ukraine? And its not from the 80s. All of our stuff if upgraded. On a B-52 there probably isn't an original bolt on the plane, but we still use it. Same with the F-16s the Ukrainians want. Your original point is that we are sending out of date equipment. We aren't and the stuff we are sending will need to be replaced. We are years from replacing the MI.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
None of that shit is part of the modern US arsenal except for maybe some Abrams that are so upgraded they don't even resemble the old shit. Abrams are in the process of getting phased out.WestlinnDuck said:
Lot's of military sh*t is from the 1980s or earlier. M1 Tank 1980. F-16s that Ukraine wants 1978. B-52s 1955. The Javelin anti-tank missile was introduced in 1996. Other than that, you pretty much didn't make any point or sense at all.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Javelins are old as shit dude. 80sSledog said:
Yes and now we're short of all that stuff and production isn't what it used top be and will take years to catch up. Better hope China doesn't want to jump.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
US had been advising and supplying then with things like javelins for a long timeBob_C said:
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason.
If the US is using javelins on China its because Chinese tanks are rolling around in Gorst.
In short, not gonna happen
You probably think the M16 is cutting edge. -
It is cutting edge. It's just 4" shorter barrel with a collapsible stock. A simple barrel and stok swap and it's same same. Front line in the entire military right now. New gun not in service yet. You are stupid.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
"we" aren't there.PurpleThrobber said:
Then why are 'we' there?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
There isnt a world war. Not even close to one.Sledog said:
Dimwitty, even arty shell stocks are way down and production way behind. javelins aren't new but they are frontline weapons for infantry. Quit making excuses for your cause celeb. We do not need a world war. HTHPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Javelins are old as shit dude. 80sSledog said:
Yes and now we're short of all that stuff and production isn't what it used top be and will take years to catch up. Better hope China doesn't want to jump.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
US had been advising and supplying then with things like javelins for a long timeBob_C said:
Your great victory at Kiev was way before anything material got there.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
True but it's only been possible due to arms support and advising.RaceBannon said:
So nothing to worry about thenPostGameOrangeSlices said:
They are, it is the equivalent of Poland beating back Germany in WW2RaceBannon said:
Russia is getting SHREDDED by UkrianePostGameOrangeSlices said:
It's only Czechoslovakia. Surely Hitler will stop there. No way he goes for Poland.PurpleThrobber said:Mostly peaceful chickenhawk.
Hope this helps
thanks
Which many here are staunchly against for some reason.
If the US is using javelins on China its because Chinese tanks are rolling around in Gorst.
In short, not gonna happen
Hth
It's a regional skirmish, Domino.
Same as it ever was. Back to the 9th Century.
"we" have some weapons there. "we" have been advising and have companies like Palantir providing intel.
"we" hope this helps -
pawz said:
Hypocrisy.UW_Doog_Bot said:
It is, in that regardless of how the US would act, it is a principle. That's the definition of what about ism.pawz said:
No, it is not. It is a principled analogy based on a principle you espoused that “[x-country does not] have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?”UW_Doog_Bot said:
This is what about ism. Hth.pawz said:
Let’s say, for the sake of discussion, Mexico joined an alliance with a China or a Russia. Then let’s say that 3rd party decided to put weapons systems on our southern border.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Why does Russia have the right to dictate a sovereign nation's alliances under the threat of invasion and violence?46XiJCAB said:
In 2022 Ukraine and Russia were making significant progress in negotiating an end to this War. The key was Russia pulling back and Ukraine renouncing NATO ambitions. Boris Johnson flew to Ukraine and blew it up. Why won't either you or PGOS address this?UW_Doog_Bot said:
Just surrender the Rhineland comrade. It's the proper thing to do... for peace.Goduckies said:
Ok they had the lesson now lets negotiate a damn end to this so innocents on both sides stop dying... this song describes it best...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
It doesn't.pawz said:PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How so?pawz said:
Ironic, because this describes you perfectly on this topicPostGameOrangeSlices said:RaceBannon said:
So go ahead and reward the assholes who did it. Are you getting a cut or do you suck cock for free?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No shit. We agree on Trump.RaceBannon said:
Not under TrumpPostGameOrangeSlices said:
2015 Hillary was grasping at straws. It was fake newsRaceBannon said:
Welcome to 2015 HillaryPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Get some new material
Russia Russia Russia led to covid covid covid led to Zelensky lighting his country on fire. Allegedly
Maybe you and Vindman can get cocktails
Russia actually invading their neighbors? Another Tuesday in world history
If you weren't such a fucking blockhead you might get a clue
Vindman and his ilk attacked American democracy just like they accused Trump
I support America. Go suck Zelensky dick
It all fake news. Hello?
If you werent such a blockhead, youd understand that sometimes you cant have constant wet dreams about Trump and realize that life goes on
It's all fucking fake.
What is fucking fake about Russia being a constant menance to the world? Explain away that one...
The isnt the first rodeoPostGameOrangeSlices said:
Disagree.Bob_C said:
Many on here think it’s an unwinnable situation as it stands. You think it can be done with an unlimited budget and timeline and that we should be spending money for punitive punishment.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bob_C said:
Provide a specific example. Sounds like there’s a lot to choose from so should be easy.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
A good number of people in this threadBob_C said:
Who has defended anything that Russia has done?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sad to see so called Americans bend over backwards to defend Russia of all fucking places.SwisherSweetboy said:Weird thread going on here. Even the dimmest of bulbs in America must be seeing that we should not send one more fucking dollar to Ukraine now. Jesus. If it's a whoosh thread, well OK. But this PGOS cunt needs to own up to it.
Acknowledging the realities of the situation as it stands is not defending anything. You refusing to do that is just fandom, not analysis.
Lots of "Russia had no choice, NATO is expanding" sob stories, without understanding why NATO exists in the first place
Lots of "bio weapon labs" takes to justify the invasion
Lots of "Ukraine is full of Nazis" takes because they have a few groups of paramilitary Neo Nazis like every other country, including Russia
All excuses the Russians themselves use to justfiy invasion and genocide.
No one but a select few buys it
Ive said several times this is peanuts to the US and it doesnt involve US troops
Hope this helps.
Allowing Russia to continue to invade and bully their neighbors will cost FAR more in the long run.
And might actually involve US troops doing the fighting and dying
If we can supply Ukraine with older weapons and let them do the fighting against the Russian horde, why not?
This is what Bot and I have been saying
It sucks this happened, it sucks Biden and the Dems routinely have this shit happening because they dont take hardline stances, everything about it sucks. But the milk is spilled, and Russia is getting a lesson in fuck around and find out.
You are so delusional you called my picture of blown up Russian armour propaganda.
https://youtu.be/LQUXuQ6Zd9w
Use your big boy words.
How would you expect the US to respond? Would you support, say, South Africa saying the US has no right to dictate Mexico’s alliances?
Run me through the thought-tree there. TIA.
But let's play the game. Why would Mexico want to align itself with either Russia or ChYnA?
Please to be defending said principle, or give valid reasons why y-variable might justifiably cause a deviation from principle.
Thank you.
ATBS, I said I would play, now explain, why would Mexico want to align itself with either of those countries(existing) alliances?
You can't move on to discussing the terms of y-variable when you haven't set the predicate for why, or how, a deviation from x-principle might be justified.
No country or man can pass the "he who has not sinned casts the first stone" test. That doesn't make right or wrong any less a thing.
Unless your a moral relativist but I doubt that's your position.
This is textbook whataboutism. Again, I've been arguing with Kremlin and CCP trolls for 20+ years now. -
America, like every country ever, has interests. It deviates in that it's interests are guided by principles to some degree rather than binary self interest.RaceBannon said:I'm pro American unlike PGOS so when I engage in whataboutism it's to make a point, not condemn America
The US has a long standing no malarkey rule for the western hemisphere
Grenada, where we called in Clint Eastwood, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Peru, and Chile among others have met the CIA when the Soviets meddle
Cuba was lost and democrats started supporting the Sandinista and Venezuela commies which makes things more difficult
Note that the democrats party has not been outlawed even though they support our enemies
Nobody was easier on the Soviets than Teddy and the gang
It all matters for a long walk to get perspective
My argument is that it's in our interest to strategically, and marginally, support Ukraine.
You can disagree. -
Tbf the Ukrainians need like 8 to 1 to successfully break the red army.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Why not? Theyve bled the Russians on a scale of 5 to 1 and tied up a lot of Russias best troops thereBob_C said:
Thanks for making my point. If it didn’t matter they wouldn’t have fought for 9 months.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
They held off Russia for 9 months there.Bob_C said:
Strategic enough for Zelensky to throw thousands of soldiers there to die. I’ll take his word for it.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Sure.gifBob_C said:
Battles aren't fought over the population of the citizens, they are fought for strategic geographic positions in order to win the next battle.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Russia is inching closer to...capturing the 57th biggest city in UkraineRaceBannon said:So is the Ukraine shredding this week or strategically losing?
Hard to keep track
@PurpleThrobber doesn't want to take Vantage for the campgrounds.
Nothing strategic about Kyiv, Kherson, Kharkiv
Explain the strategic importance of...bakhmut
Whether or not they use the opportunity to counter attack soon will make or break that decision
They are going to counter attack soon. Lipo
Both sides are hoping this battle will attrition the other into oblivion.
The Ukrainians hope that they kill enough Russians to destroy both political and strategic support.
And the Russians are hoping to force the Ukrainians into a single point defense that saps them of their professional troops.
Either way the US wins imo. -
I came to the thought today that old school covert support would be fineUW_Doog_Bot said:
America, like every country ever, has interests. It deviates in that it's interests are guided by principles to some degree rather than binary self interest.RaceBannon said:I'm pro American unlike PGOS so when I engage in whataboutism it's to make a point, not condemn America
The US has a long standing no malarkey rule for the western hemisphere
Grenada, where we called in Clint Eastwood, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Peru, and Chile among others have met the CIA when the Soviets meddle
Cuba was lost and democrats started supporting the Sandinista and Venezuela commies which makes things more difficult
Note that the democrats party has not been outlawed even though they support our enemies
Nobody was easier on the Soviets than Teddy and the gang
It all matters for a long walk to get perspective
My argument is that it's in our interest to strategically, and marginally, support Ukraine.
You can disagree.
It's the grandstanding and all the morons crowing about how America and Europe need to do whatever it takes.
Just the worst fucking people. Literally like Putin
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