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  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    A country that once had 30M people now down to the high teens. Some see the disaster and think it might be in the best interest of Ukraine to seek a ceasefire and a negotiated peace. Some meaning gov't officials and military leaders behind the scenes. I guess they're taking Russia victory laps too. JFC.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,688
    46XiJCAB said:

    A country that once had 30M people now down to the high teens. Some see the disaster and think it might be in the best interest of Ukraine to seek a ceasefire and a negotiated peace. Some meaning gov't officials and military leaders behind the scenes. I guess they're taking Russia victory laps too. JFC.

    Wrong.

    It had 50 million and it still has well over 40...
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,688
    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.

    Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.

    Other than that, we actually agree.

    I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.

    I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
    But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
    Neither side will accomplish their stated goals

    Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
    What was Russia's goal specifically?
    Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country

    They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,290 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.

    Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.

    Other than that, we actually agree.

    I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.

    I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
    But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
    Neither side will accomplish their stated goals

    Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
    What was Russia's goal specifically?
    Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country

    They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
    Their stated goals was to demilitarize Ukraine. So trying to take a major airport fits in with that.

    My opinion is that they actually are trying to create a buffer to NATO as they have said and their desired goal looks something like this. The whole they were planning to keep going through Poland, etc. thing was our own creation in order to generate fear and support.


  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,843

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.

    Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.

    Other than that, we actually agree.

    I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.

    I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
    But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
    Neither side will accomplish their stated goals

    Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
    What was Russia's goal specifically?
    Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country

    They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
    They might. Russians are complete vodka chugging idiots
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club

    46XiJCAB said:

    And the pup triple

    Vindman is why Ukraine got invaded

    Ukraine got invaded because of a Russian land grab. Just like Georgia. Just like Chechnya.

    Hth
    Simple minds believe simple things

    You've gone full Alex Jones. Sad to see.
    Sure bro

    Great argument

    One could say a simple argument

    From a simple mind
    Ive posted so much info in this thread to support my argument its not even funny

    It is what it is
    So you get a gold star for poasting what the powers that be and the MIC wants people to believe. Are you aware that when Ukraine runs out of the artillery we're supplying that there's no more coming? It's not an endless supply. Do you know what that means?
    Ive poasted stuff from left leaning sources, right leaning sources, and everything in between.

    You just dont want to hear it.

    Russia is going to be having fun with Bradley's and Leopards soon. The coping here will be off the charts.
    Establishment-left, Establishment-right, and Establishment-everything-in-between. Most don't need to be math majors to find the common denominator.


    All 40 tanks? JFC


  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    pawz said:
    Lol. Losing Bahkmut isnt great, but its not like Russia losing Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kherson

    Now that is pathetic
    Keep punching, Champ!
    Russia's year long plan to capture....Bakhmut?

    Lmao
    You'd look less stupid if you actually read or watched anything poasted here other than your own BS.
    Swing and a miss

    One year to kinda capture....Bahkmut!

  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club

    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.

    Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.

    Other than that, we actually agree.

    I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.

    I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory

    Hope this helps.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,586 Standard Supporter

    No here gives a fuck about Russia

    Vindman committing treason to remove Trump so Putin could invade should be of some concern

    And then cashing in

    I called it before Biden won

    Can you spell this out for me?

    Im not buying the Biden 5d chess move encouraging an invasion, but Ill consider your take.

    Remember - EVERYONE thought Ukraine was toast within a week. Doesnt really play into that theory
    Biden’s not calling the shots.

    Start there and perhaps your checkers mentality can catch up to the rest of us.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,586 Standard Supporter
    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    Bob_C said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I'm the peacenik here. Ukraine was never defeating Russia. That was always a fantasy. Time for a ceasefire and peace talks. Instead Joey is off to Delaware for the weekend while more Ukranians die in vain.

    Ukraine still being an independent country right now is a win and a massive L for Russia.

    Other than that, we actually agree.

    I think Ukraine is going to have enough juice left to take back wide swathes of southern Ukraine.

    I dont think the LPR, DPR, and Crimea are feasible goals
    But those are the stated goals, get Russia out completely.
    Neither side will accomplish their stated goals

    Goalpost moving from Russia has been impressive
    What was Russia's goal specifically?
    Install a puppet govt and take more land, or possibly take the entire country

    They didnt send their elite paratroopers to their deaths at Hostomel airport outside Kyiv for shits and giggles
    Their stated goals was to demilitarize Ukraine. So trying to take a major airport fits in with that.

    My opinion is that they actually are trying to create a buffer to NATO as they have said and their desired goal looks something like this. The whole they were planning to keep going through Poland, etc. thing was our own creation in order to generate fear and support.


    Russians are overtly paranoid about their borders. It’s historic and part of their DNA. Napoleon and Hitler left an indelible mark.

    Ukraine is their buffer for sure.