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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,851 Founders Club
    TTJ said:

    haie said:

    It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.

    Fucking unreal.

    The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.

    Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?

    In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
    ASU's barn is decent by college hockey standards. But make no mistake: It's a complete fucking embarrassment that an NHL team calls that place home--even temporarily.
    That's an outlier situation though.

    Coyotes should move up and be the new Quebec franchise.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,851 Founders Club

    haie said:

    haie said:

    It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.

    Fucking unreal.

    The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.

    Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?

    In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
    Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.

    If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
    Bruh!



    But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
    I don't care which one. Not rowing.

    But what has the other men's non revenue sports done. We're a few hours from BC we should build a program that can compete for the Frozen Four. It would attract money from both WA and BC.
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 6,212 Standard Supporter
    The CHL (WHL, QMJHL, OHL) is definitely the more traditional path to the NHL but many many elite players come through Junior A and bridge between the NHL by playing against their age group for a year or two more. Not to mention the obvious advantage of being able to fall back on the degree that comes with playing school for the ones that aren't a lock high round pick.

    Very clear path to being a high profile hockey program. Would UW build a rink on campus?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club

    haie said:

    haie said:

    It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.

    Fucking unreal.

    The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.

    Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?

    In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
    Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.

    If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
    Bruh!



    But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
    Soccer. Obviously.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,906 Founders Club
    pawz said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.

    Fucking unreal.

    The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.

    Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?

    In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
    Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.

    If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
    Bruh!



    But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
    Soccer. Obviously.
    Losers lose!
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,906 Founders Club
    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.

    Fucking unreal.

    The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.

    Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?

    In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
    Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.

    If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
    Bruh!



    But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
    I don't care which one. Not rowing.

    But what has the other men's non revenue sports done. We're a few hours from BC we should build a program that can compete for the Frozen Four. It would attract money from both WA and BC.
    But, here are my hang ups and we're I remain skeptical that UW would ever try to have Men's Hockey as a Varsity Sport...

    First off, adding new Varsity Sports is expensive as fuck. Would these be scholarship student athletes? What woman's team is gonna get added then to balance that out for Title IX. One of the things that Men's Rowboat has in its favor, is that while it's a Varsity Sport at UW, me and @whlinder are rich AF so the scholarships for the guysm come out of a nearly $20 million private endowment; those 16 full rides don't count towards Title IX. The chick's numbers do as they are paid for by the Athletic Dept.

    Again, when it comes to cutting a sport to add hockey, which men's team gets the Axe? There is a basic core level of non revenue men's sports teams that almost all Power 5's operate- i.e., track/xc, soccer, baseball, golf. It's hard to fathom getting rid of soccer or baseball to fun hockey. This would be madness.

    Hockey to me seems like it will always be a "niche" Men's college sport like rowboat, lacrosse, water polo, wrastling, etc, where there has to be a strong pre-existing tradition and culture.

    P.S. PM to @CanadianDAWG BC is vastly superior to WA for Juniors Rowing (especially on Vancouver Island). UW Crew has made hay off this for years and won Natties as a result.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.

    Fucking unreal.

    The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.

    Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?

    In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
    Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.

    If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
    Bruh!



    But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
    I don't care which one. Not rowing.

    But what has the other men's non revenue sports done. We're a few hours from BC we should build a program that can compete for the Frozen Four. It would attract money from both WA and BC.
    But, here are my hang ups and we're I remain skeptical that UW would ever try to have Men's Hockey as a Varsity Sport...

    First off, adding new Varsity Sports is expensive as fuck. Would these be scholarship student athletes? What woman's team is gonna get added then to balance that out for Title IX. One of the things that Men's Rowboat has in its favor, is that while it's a Varsity Sport at UW, me and @whlinder are rich AF so the scholarships for the guysm come out of a nearly $20 million private endowment; those 16 full rides don't count towards Title IX. The chick's numbers do as they are paid for by the Athletic Dept.

    Again, when it comes to cutting a sport to add hockey, which men's team gets the Axe? There is a basic core level of non revenue men's sports teams that almost all Power 5's operate- i.e., track/xc, soccer, baseball, golf. It's hard to fathom getting rid of soccer or baseball to fun hockey. This would be madness.

    Hockey to me seems like it will always be a "niche" Men's college sport like rowboat, lacrosse, water polo, wrastling, etc, where there has to be a strong pre-existing tradition and culture.

    P.S. PM to @CanadianDAWG BC is vastly superior to WA for Juniors Rowing (especially on Vancouver Island). UW Crew has made hay off this for years and won Natties as a result.

    Why don't you add women's hockey, is that too obvious? Or is there no D1 varsity women's hockey to compete in?
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,906 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    It's pathetic that ASU has an arena that is so legit the Phoenix coyotes will play there, while UW 3 hours from BC has it as a fucking club sport.

    Fucking unreal.

    The Kraken will correct this long term, but still.

    Not loaded question: how in the hell did ASU decide to have hockey as a varsity sport ?

    In spite of plenty of NHL teams in the Pac 12 footprint there is no college hockey tradition out here.
    Bro I went through this for 4 years at UW. My roommates were a spoiled rich kid from Dallas who was obsessed with the Stars and some other kids from BC who were Canucks fans. We yelled at each other constantly over this topic.

    If UW cuts some programs and starts Men's and Women's hockey teams, that's much better for the AD long term. Check out ASU's arena. UW could build that and sell that out every year.
    Bruh!



    But what mens varsity sport is UW gonna cut to add men’s ice hockey ? We run a pretty lean list of men’s varsity sports anyhow. We ain’t got swimming, wrastling, volleyball, etc, etc
    I don't care which one. Not rowing.

    But what has the other men's non revenue sports done. We're a few hours from BC we should build a program that can compete for the Frozen Four. It would attract money from both WA and BC.
    But, here are my hang ups and we're I remain skeptical that UW would ever try to have Men's Hockey as a Varsity Sport...

    First off, adding new Varsity Sports is expensive as fuck. Would these be scholarship student athletes? What woman's team is gonna get added then to balance that out for Title IX. One of the things that Men's Rowboat has in its favor, is that while it's a Varsity Sport at UW, me and @whlinder are rich AF so the scholarships for the guysm come out of a nearly $20 million private endowment; those 16 full rides don't count towards Title IX. The chick's numbers do as they are paid for by the Athletic Dept.

    Again, when it comes to cutting a sport to add hockey, which men's team gets the Axe? There is a basic core level of non revenue men's sports teams that almost all Power 5's operate- i.e., track/xc, soccer, baseball, golf. It's hard to fathom getting rid of soccer or baseball to fun hockey. This would be madness.

    Hockey to me seems like it will always be a "niche" Men's college sport like rowboat, lacrosse, water polo, wrastling, etc, where there has to be a strong pre-existing tradition and culture.

    P.S. PM to @CanadianDAWG BC is vastly superior to WA for Juniors Rowing (especially on Vancouver Island). UW Crew has made hay off this for years and won Natties as a result.

    Why don't you add women's hockey, is that too obvious? Or is there no D1 varsity women's hockey to compete in?
    Where's the fucking money though?