Why recruiting matters
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It's been covered plenty how/why Clemson won one. I guess we need to cover this topic another 81 times and argue why Keg Boy's quitters are going to run the conference though.
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All of you “recruiting” doesn’t matter dumbasses needed a refresher. I love the dipshits on your team who believe the portal will make up for shit HS recruiting. History says you’re all FS.
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I don't even know who you're arguing with. JFC. Senile.46XiJCAB said:All of you “recruiting” doesn’t matter dumbasses needed a refresher. I love the dipshits on your team who believe the portal will make up for shit HS recruiting. History says you’re all FS.
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More Haie gaslighting.haie said:
I don't even know who you're arguing with. JFC. Senile.46XiJCAB said:All of you “recruiting” doesn’t matter dumbasses needed a refresher. I love the dipshits on your team who believe the portal will make up for shit HS recruiting. History says you’re all FS.
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You sound scared46XiJCAB said:All of you “recruiting” doesn’t matter dumbasses needed a refresher. I love the dipshits on your team who believe the portal will make up for shit HS recruiting. History says you’re all FS.
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Time to breath heavily while looking at tape of the 17 and 18 year old sculpted boys again isn't it? -
Do better, Bill. You can do it.
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Lots of teams have great recruits and are losers that suck fat donkey balls. You guys have plenty of experience with that so I’m sure you will agree.
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I'd rather have someone who is a good coach. A good coach will attract good players. You think Miami and Texas and Florida are down because they don't have good players? Coaching, especially at the college level is everything.
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Completely agree, and because fans don't want to wait around for 2-5 year chunks before they finally get one to doog out, they get overly excited over hyped kids because that is an every year thing.SFGbob said:I'd rather have someone who is a good coach. A good coach will attract good players. You think Miami and Texas and Florida are down because they don't have good players? Coaching, especially at the college level is everything.
There are some players worth getting excited over. Kayvon, Stewart, Smalls, Budda Baker, etc. Quarterback is just too much of a crapshoot. Wake me up when they aren't throwing 5 picks to cuog. -
Which is better. 10 five stars with 5 that don't fulfill expectations or the same ratio with 3 stars?coronabruin said:Lots of teams have great recruits and are losers that suck fat donkey balls. You guys have plenty of experience with that so I’m sure you will agree.
Oregon's top-10 five stars.
KT-NFL
Flowe/no, we will see what he does at Zona.
Ngata-NFL
Stewart-NFL
Sewell-NFL
Colvin/no, nice career
D. Thomas-NFL
Conerly Jr.
Armstead-NFL
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I agree coaching matters. Saban is a good coach but if he stays at MSU he probably never wins a NC. His 1999 team was his best ever at 10-2 and it got him to LSU. Maybe the 2000 team would have been the year he wins the B1G title? That team went 5-6 under B. Williams.SFGbob said:I'd rather have someone who is a good coach. A good coach will attract good players. You think Miami and Texas and Florida are down because they don't have good players? Coaching, especially at the college level is everything.
He goes to LSU, then Bama and becomes maybe the greatest college HC ever. One thing changed, he went from good players to much better with elite level players mixed in.
I'd take one year of Ed Orgeron if it meant having that trophy in the case to crow about. -
Eddy O ain't living in Eugene for 1 day, bra.46XiJCAB said:
I agree coaching matters. Saban is a good coach but if he stays at MSU he probably never wins a NC. His 1999 team was his best ever at 10-2 and it got him to LSU. Maybe the 2000 team would have been the year he wins the B1G title? That team went 5-6 under B. Williams.SFGbob said:I'd rather have someone who is a good coach. A good coach will attract good players. You think Miami and Texas and Florida are down because they don't have good players? Coaching, especially at the college level is everything.
He goes to LSU, then Bama and becomes maybe the greatest college HC ever. One thing changed, he went from good players to much better with elite level players mixed in.
I'd take one year of Ed Orgeron if it meant having that trophy in the case to crow about. -
Clearly you've never to BR. Last I checked their were coeds in Eugene. He can't coach a lick but he recruited well enough to pull a NC. That was the point.haie said:
Eddy O ain't living in Eugene for 1 day, bra.46XiJCAB said:
I agree coaching matters. Saban is a good coach but if he stays at MSU he probably never wins a NC. His 1999 team was his best ever at 10-2 and it got him to LSU. Maybe the 2000 team would have been the year he wins the B1G title? That team went 5-6 under B. Williams.SFGbob said:I'd rather have someone who is a good coach. A good coach will attract good players. You think Miami and Texas and Florida are down because they don't have good players? Coaching, especially at the college level is everything.
He goes to LSU, then Bama and becomes maybe the greatest college HC ever. One thing changed, he went from good players to much better with elite level players mixed in.
I'd take one year of Ed Orgeron if it meant having that trophy in the case to crow about. -
Agree with both points. QBs are almost like coaches. One should pursue the volume method with both, quickly changing out a loser for another spin of the wheel.haie said:
Completely agree, and because fans don't want to wait around for 2-5 year chunks before they finally get one to doog out, they get overly excited over hyped kids because that is an every year thing.SFGbob said:I'd rather have someone who is a good coach. A good coach will attract good players. You think Miami and Texas and Florida are down because they don't have good players? Coaching, especially at the college level is everything.
There are some players worth getting excited over. Kayvon, Stewart, Smalls, Budda Baker, etc. Quarterback is just too much of a crapshoot. Wake me up when they aren't throwing 5 picks to cuog.
One subtle gloss: sure, Miami, Texas and Florida have more good players than your average 5-7 team, or whatever. But using Miami as the example, their NFL production is a shadow of what it once was. I guess it's all what you're used to. They've graduated some current NFL studs recently, but it's nothing like it has been and it's been commented in NFL circles, "what's up with Miami?". They're a good example of not all stars are created equally. The 5 stars that have escaped Miami to go to Bama have been fucking superstars. But Miami, OTOH, has had some really shitty luck with 5 stars the last several years, and some of them don't even pass the eye test, like Mark Pope, whose only realistic opportunity to contribute was as a possession receiver, which was not his billing at all, and he sucked at that too. Honestly, I watched him from the beginning and was like, "I don't get it." Like, literally a useless player. There are a bunch of 4 stars in that category as well. I'm sure some of it is development, but come on. Does anyone really develop an elite corner or an edge guy? Or a running back? To a degree, sure, but not really that much. Bottom line is that shitty teams have shitty coaches who not only fail to develop, but their talent eval. is usually shitty as well. There are exceptions, like Zook. But mostly part of being a good coach is not getting sold a bucket of goods on an elite recruit who really isn't that elite.
I'll say it again: people in sports are FUCKING TERRIBLE at their jobs as a general matter. They exist and operate with a batting average barometer of success, while the rest of us have to be very good to be perceived as, you know, good. How many lawyers or docs do you know who have to do a good job only 3 out of 10 times? How many floors can @RaceBannon s shop fuck up and still be a go-to service? How many builders can get by building 3 good houses and 7 future money pitts? How many shitty and bugggy software applications can @haie afford to write because he wrote something good 4 years ago? Nobody gets to operate that way.
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After year 1 as P5 head coaches,
We’re pretty sure Deboer is a good coach
We’re pretty sure Lanning is a great recruiter
We’re unsure if Deboer is a good evaluator of talent
We’re unsure if Deboer is a good recruiter
We’re unsure if Lanning is a good coach
We’re unsure if Lanning is a good evaluator of talent
Pretty much where we’re at. Not much more to glean until Penix and Nix leave and we see some more turnover from assistant staffers.
I like our guy until I don’t. Same with you guys.
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Agree but Lannbo sucksthechatch said:After year 1 as P5 head coaches,
We’re pretty sure Deboer is a good coach
We’re pretty sure Lanning is a great recruiter
We’re unsure if Deboer is a good evaluator of talent
We’re unsure if Deboer is a good recruiter
We’re unsure if Lanning is a good coach
We’re unsure if Lanning is a good evaluator of talent
Pretty much where we’re at. Not much more to glean until Penix and Nix leave and we see some more turnover from assistant staffers.
I like our guy until I don’t. Same with you guys.
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Eh he could have been 12-2
Could have been 8-5
The median there is 10-3.5 which is where he landed. If he averages 10 wins he’s a good not great coach.
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Lansing might be a good coach. Remember Belicheat sucked in Cleveland...and..well without Brady Bunch.
He's not right now and he's learning on the job. So it'll be at least two more years until he might become decent. -
One year with a National Title and then sucking for the next 10 isn't worth it to me.46XiJCAB said:
I agree coaching matters. Saban is a good coach but if he stays at MSU he probably never wins a NC. His 1999 team was his best ever at 10-2 and it got him to LSU. Maybe the 2000 team would have been the year he wins the B1G title? That team went 5-6 under B. Williams.SFGbob said:I'd rather have someone who is a good coach. A good coach will attract good players. You think Miami and Texas and Florida are down because they don't have good players? Coaching, especially at the college level is everything.
He goes to LSU, then Bama and becomes maybe the greatest college HC ever. One thing changed, he went from good players to much better with elite level players mixed in.
I'd take one year of Ed Orgeron if it meant having that trophy in the case to crow about. -
I think Ed O got a bit of a raw deal. He took over a team in distress and in two years had one of the best teams in history. The last pre covid champion
Covid year sucked for a lot of teams then a 6-6 and he's fired
Kelly lost 4 games this year but he beat Bama and nothing else matters as it allowed him to get run by Georgia. I would bet money Kelly never wins a natty at LSU.
If you could get Ed O as your top recruiter like Carroll did at USC then you get the best of both worlds
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Ed O is a disaster
He had the perfect cultural fit at LSU and still turned it into a clown show with strippers showing up at practice and about a million stupid, lazy fuckups. -
Which nobody cared about in 2019thechatch said:Ed O is a disaster
He had the perfect cultural fit at LSU and still turned it into a clown show with strippers showing up at practice and about a million stupid, lazy fuckups.
It mattered when he lost 6 games in 21
Coaches are meatheads and Ed is really a meathead but the fucker can recruit and has a natty -
Lanning stumbling into an elite coordinator, getting the needed quarterback, and firing Tosh is the only combination of events I see getting him to a title game.
So he's basically a less retarded sounding Orgeron but he can actually beat the sissies in the baby blue shirts. -
He did a nice job at SC and a thanks for coming in return.RaceBannon said:I think Ed O got a bit of a raw deal. He took over a team in distress and in two years had one of the best teams in history. The last pre covid champion
Covid year sucked for a lot of teams then a 6-6 and he's fired
Kelly lost 4 games this year but he beat Bama and nothing else matters as it allowed him to get run by Georgia. I would bet money Kelly never wins a natty at LSU.
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Didn't Ed nail some 20year old co-eds? LOL
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What's wrong with strippers as practice? It's practice, not a game.thechatch said:Ed O is a disaster
He had the perfect cultural fit at LSU and still turned it into a clown show with strippers showing up at practice and about a million stupid, lazy fuckups. -
Nothing.SFGbob said:
What's wrong with strippers as practice? It's practice, not a game.thechatch said:Ed O is a disaster
He had the perfect cultural fit at LSU and still turned it into a clown show with strippers showing up at practice and about a million stupid, lazy fuckups.
Until you go 7-6 at LSU…. -
UGA already with 10 commits for 2024 and a 96+ ave. 2-7-1.
