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CatGut
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The goal next year is to get a spot in the CFP. To do that requires having 2 losses or fewer in the regular season (preferably no more than 1). In the past 70 seasons, a UW coach has had back-to-back years of 2 or fewer regular season losses 6 times:

Jim Owens (1 time: 1959/1960)
Don James (4 times: 1980/1981, 1981/1982, 1990/1991, 1991/1992. 10-1 in 1984 but couldn’t repeat)
Jim Lambright (9-2 regular season in 1996. Couldn't repeat)
Rick Neuheisel (10-1 regular season in 2001. Couldn't repeat)
Ty Willingham (None)
Steve Sarkisian (None)
Chris Petersen (1 time: 2016/2017)
Jimmy Lake (3-1 in 2020 [COVID season]. Couldn't repeat)

That DeBoer has a realistic shot to do it in his first two seasons underscores what a difference he's made for the program.

* Side notes: only Jim Owens did his back-to-backs following a worse year (3-7 in 1958 vs 4-8 in 2021)
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  • huskyhooligan
    huskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,942 Swaye's Wigwam
    Speaking of beating trends and because I didn't want to start a new thread.

    Happy 55th Birthday to @CFetters_Nacho_Lover

    Beating the ever present fading hour glass of time, and what will most certainly be your heart exploding out of your large supple chest and making it to 55 is a substantial accomplishment!
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  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,329
    @ SC is the only acceptable loss for a legitimate playoff contender. If they beat SC then beavs is the only other one that would be understandable if DJU is legitimate
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,213
    Doogles said:

    You only get 1 mulligan to make the playoffs, and on the west coast it better be a good one. Next year our "B" OOC game is Boise, which will help with strength of schedule as they are favorites in the MWC and have a shot at being the G5 NY6 team. Hopefully our "A" game at East Lansing ends up looking better with a bounce back season from Mel Tucker, though i'm not hopeful on that.

    Need to go undefeated in OOC to have a realistic shot. @SC, @Beav, Ute and the Danimals at home. Gotta save the L for that stretch.

    There is a scenario where we drop a close one to an improved MSU and then run the table. Really unlikely and we would need MSU to be a top 25 skwad and knockoff Michigan or Ohio State, as well
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,213
    RoadDawg55 said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Doogles said:

    You only get 1 mulligan to make the playoffs, and on the west coast it better be a good one. Next year our "B" OOC game is Boise, which will help with strength of schedule as they are favorites in the MWC and have a shot at being the G5 NY6 team. Hopefully our "A" game at East Lansing ends up looking better with a bounce back season from Mel Tucker, though i'm not hopeful on that.

    Need to go undefeated in OOC to have a realistic shot. @SC, @Beav, Ute and the Danimals at home. Gotta save the L for that stretch.

    There is a scenario where we drop a close one to an improved MSU and then run the table. Really unlikely and we would need MSU to be a top 25 skwad and knockoff Michigan or Ohio State, as well
    We aren’t losing to Sparty. Easy win.
    I remember saying/thinking the same thing about ASU 2017, Cal 2018, Cal 2019, and ASU 2022
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,141
    RoadDawg55 said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Doogles said:

    You only get 1 mulligan to make the playoffs, and on the west coast it better be a good one. Next year our "B" OOC game is Boise, which will help with strength of schedule as they are favorites in the MWC and have a shot at being the G5 NY6 team. Hopefully our "A" game at East Lansing ends up looking better with a bounce back season from Mel Tucker, though i'm not hopeful on that.

    Need to go undefeated in OOC to have a realistic shot. @SC, @Beav, Ute and the Danimals at home. Gotta save the L for that stretch.

    There is a scenario where we drop a close one to an improved MSU and then run the table. Really unlikely and we would need MSU to be a top 25 skwad and knockoff Michigan or Ohio State, as well
    We aren’t losing to Sparty. Easy win.
    UW should be favored but it won’t be an easy win. Their fans are dumb and that place will be packed in September
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  • CatGut
    CatGut Member Posts: 92
    ntxduck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Doogles said:

    You only get 1 mulligan to make the playoffs, and on the west coast it better be a good one. Next year our "B" OOC game is Boise, which will help with strength of schedule as they are favorites in the MWC and have a shot at being the G5 NY6 team. Hopefully our "A" game at East Lansing ends up looking better with a bounce back season from Mel Tucker, though i'm not hopeful on that.

    Need to go undefeated in OOC to have a realistic shot. @SC, @Beav, Ute and the Danimals at home. Gotta save the L for that stretch.

    There is a scenario where we drop a close one to an improved MSU and then run the table. Really unlikely and we would need MSU to be a top 25 skwad and knockoff Michigan or Ohio State, as well
    We aren’t losing to Sparty. Easy win.
    UW should be favored but it won’t be an easy win. Their fans are dumb and that place will be packed in September
    Agreed it won't be easy, but UW should expect to win the game. First, because UW should simply be better than MSU. Second, because MSU tends not to enjoy much home field advantage. Their most recent non-conference home games (Power 5 opponents only) are:

    2019: Arizona State (Lost 10-7)
    2017: Notre Dame (Lost 38-18)
    2016: BYU (Lost 31-14)
    2015: Oregon (Won 31-28)
    2012: Notre Dame (Lost 20-3)

    This list is going pretty far back and covers teams having nothing to do with present-day Sparty, so worth noting that they don't really have a lot of home field advantage in conference games either:

    2022: 3-2 (excluding Michigan & OSU for extra fairness)
    2021: 3-0
    2020: 1-2
    2019: 2-3
    2018: 2-1
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  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,279
    edited January 2023
    If UW loses to the Beav. They aren’t making the playoff

    ESPN will allow our one loss to be to USC……maybe Utah if beat SC That’s it
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,759 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Doogles said:

    You only get 1 mulligan to make the playoffs, and on the west coast it better be a good one. Next year our "B" OOC game is Boise, which will help with strength of schedule as they are favorites in the MWC and have a shot at being the G5 NY6 team. Hopefully our "A" game at East Lansing ends up looking better with a bounce back season from Mel Tucker, though i'm not hopeful on that.

    Need to go undefeated in OOC to have a realistic shot. @SC, @Beav, Ute and the Danimals at home. Gotta save the L for that stretch.

    There is a scenario where we drop a close one to an improved MSU and then run the table. Really unlikely and we would need MSU to be a top 25 skwad and knockoff Michigan or Ohio State, as well
    We aren’t losing to Sparty. Easy win.
    UW should be favored but it won’t be an easy win. Their fans are dumb and that place will be packed in September
    It was packed with them this year. Their coach is a mess and they're desperately trying to fix their lines.
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,213
    HuskyJW said:

    If UW loses to the Beav. They aren’t making the playoff

    ESPN will allow our one loss to be to USC……maybe Utah if beat SC That’s it

    Disagree. 11-1 conference champ UW gets in no matter what
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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,307 Founders Club
    huskyhooligan said:

    Speaking of beating trends and because I didn't want to start a new thread.

    Happy 55th Birthday to @CFetters_Nacho_Lover

    Beating the ever present fading hour glass of time, and what will most certainly be your heart exploding out of your large supple chest and making it to 55 is a substantial accomplishment!

    Huh?
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,141
    ntxduck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Doogles said:

    You only get 1 mulligan to make the playoffs, and on the west coast it better be a good one. Next year our "B" OOC game is Boise, which will help with strength of schedule as they are favorites in the MWC and have a shot at being the G5 NY6 team. Hopefully our "A" game at East Lansing ends up looking better with a bounce back season from Mel Tucker, though i'm not hopeful on that.

    Need to go undefeated in OOC to have a realistic shot. @SC, @Beav, Ute and the Danimals at home. Gotta save the L for that stretch.

    There is a scenario where we drop a close one to an improved MSU and then run the table. Really unlikely and we would need MSU to be a top 25 skwad and knockoff Michigan or Ohio State, as well
    We aren’t losing to Sparty. Easy win.
    UW should be favored but it won’t be an easy win. Their fans are dumb and that place will be packed in September
    UW will score a bunch points and Peyton Thorne and their offense sucks until it doesn’t. I don’t see Michigan State being too much better.
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  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,141
    RoadDawg55 said:

    ntxduck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Doogles said:

    You only get 1 mulligan to make the playoffs, and on the west coast it better be a good one. Next year our "B" OOC game is Boise, which will help with strength of schedule as they are favorites in the MWC and have a shot at being the G5 NY6 team. Hopefully our "A" game at East Lansing ends up looking better with a bounce back season from Mel Tucker, though i'm not hopeful on that.

    Need to go undefeated in OOC to have a realistic shot. @SC, @Beav, Ute and the Danimals at home. Gotta save the L for that stretch.

    There is a scenario where we drop a close one to an improved MSU and then run the table. Really unlikely and we would need MSU to be a top 25 skwad and knockoff Michigan or Ohio State, as well
    We aren’t losing to Sparty. Easy win.
    UW should be favored but it won’t be an easy win. Their fans are dumb and that place will be packed in September
    UW will score a bunch points and Peyton Thorne and their offense sucks until it doesn’t. I don’t see Michigan State being too much better.
    Agree to disagree. Anyone thinking about the trip—if you’re a golfer, I definitely recommend it and spending a few days in northern MI on either side of the game. There’s some pretty nice courses in the EL area, too.
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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    UW lost to ASU on the road, would not be surprised if our morons fucked up on the road
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  • no_uh
    no_uh Member Posts: 769
    For the last 20 years+ (maybe longer for the historians and old people) UW has lost on the road to worthless team. ASU says hi. DeBoer hasn't broken the curse. I have BWS and expect the L against MSU but also like LIPO.
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  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,799
    haie said:

    ntxduck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Doogles said:

    You only get 1 mulligan to make the playoffs, and on the west coast it better be a good one. Next year our "B" OOC game is Boise, which will help with strength of schedule as they are favorites in the MWC and have a shot at being the G5 NY6 team. Hopefully our "A" game at East Lansing ends up looking better with a bounce back season from Mel Tucker, though i'm not hopeful on that.

    Need to go undefeated in OOC to have a realistic shot. @SC, @Beav, Ute and the Danimals at home. Gotta save the L for that stretch.

    There is a scenario where we drop a close one to an improved MSU and then run the table. Really unlikely and we would need MSU to be a top 25 skwad and knockoff Michigan or Ohio State, as well
    We aren’t losing to Sparty. Easy win.
    UW should be favored but it won’t be an easy win. Their fans are dumb and that place will be packed in September
    It was packed with them this year. Their coach is a mess and they're desperately trying to fix their lines.
    It will be annoyingly difficult. UW should have a better RB though, so they can actually lean in to that a little bit. Helps Penix, and is a good strategy on the road (see Alamo Bowl).
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  • FireTheJanitor
    FireTheJanitor Member Posts: 1,483
    no_uh said:

    For the last 20 years+ (maybe longer for the historians and old people) UW has lost on the road to worthless team. ASU says hi. DeBoer hasn't broken the curse. I have BWS and expect the L against MSU but also like LIPO.

    Low effort shit posting 🥱

    Sorry to hear about the BWS though
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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,307 Founders Club
    ntxduck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    ntxduck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Doogles said:

    You only get 1 mulligan to make the playoffs, and on the west coast it better be a good one. Next year our "B" OOC game is Boise, which will help with strength of schedule as they are favorites in the MWC and have a shot at being the G5 NY6 team. Hopefully our "A" game at East Lansing ends up looking better with a bounce back season from Mel Tucker, though i'm not hopeful on that.

    Need to go undefeated in OOC to have a realistic shot. @SC, @Beav, Ute and the Danimals at home. Gotta save the L for that stretch.

    There is a scenario where we drop a close one to an improved MSU and then run the table. Really unlikely and we would need MSU to be a top 25 skwad and knockoff Michigan or Ohio State, as well
    We aren’t losing to Sparty. Easy win.
    UW should be favored but it won’t be an easy win. Their fans are dumb and that place will be packed in September
    UW will score a bunch points and Peyton Thorne and their offense sucks until it doesn’t. I don’t see Michigan State being too much better.
    Agree to disagree. Anyone thinking about the trip—if you’re a golfer, I definitely recommend it and spending a few days in northern MI on either side of the game. There’s some pretty nice courses in the EL area, too.
    If I golfed this would be great info.
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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    RoadDawg55 said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Doogles said:

    You only get 1 mulligan to make the playoffs, and on the west coast it better be a good one. Next year our "B" OOC game is Boise, which will help with strength of schedule as they are favorites in the MWC and have a shot at being the G5 NY6 team. Hopefully our "A" game at East Lansing ends up looking better with a bounce back season from Mel Tucker, though i'm not hopeful on that.

    Need to go undefeated in OOC to have a realistic shot. @SC, @Beav, Ute and the Danimals at home. Gotta save the L for that stretch.

    There is a scenario where we drop a close one to an improved MSU and then run the table. Really unlikely and we would need MSU to be a top 25 skwad and knockoff Michigan or Ohio State, as well
    We aren’t losing to Sparty. Easy win.
    I hope you’re right. I’m starting to get paranoid about any grass field though. Hope our guys are ready.
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  • CatGut
    CatGut Member Posts: 92
    ntxduck said:

    CatGut said:

    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    ntxduck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    ntxduck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Doogles said:

    You only get 1 mulligan to make the playoffs, and on the west coast it better be a good one. Next year our "B" OOC game is Boise, which will help with strength of schedule as they are favorites in the MWC and have a shot at being the G5 NY6 team. Hopefully our "A" game at East Lansing ends up looking better with a bounce back season from Mel Tucker, though i'm not hopeful on that.

    Need to go undefeated in OOC to have a realistic shot. @SC, @Beav, Ute and the Danimals at home. Gotta save the L for that stretch.

    There is a scenario where we drop a close one to an improved MSU and then run the table. Really unlikely and we would need MSU to be a top 25 skwad and knockoff Michigan or Ohio State, as well
    We aren’t losing to Sparty. Easy win.
    UW should be favored but it won’t be an easy win. Their fans are dumb and that place will be packed in September
    UW will score a bunch points and Peyton Thorne and their offense sucks until it doesn’t. I don’t see Michigan State being too much better.
    Agree to disagree. Anyone thinking about the trip—if you’re a golfer, I definitely recommend it and spending a few days in northern MI on either side of the game. There’s some pretty nice courses in the EL area, too.
    If I golfed this would be great info.
    I'm going to the game, I golf, but I'm taking my 6-year old son, so golf I shall not. I'm an objectively stupid person and am telling myself it'll be a great father-son bonding event rather than several hours of increasingly hysterical demands for concessions culminating in a halftime departure. Go Dawgs!
    Pro tip for your son, there’s an awesome local ice cream shop (melting moments) that sells ice cream sandwiches in Spartan stadium. Top 3 stadium food I’ve ever had.

    Also tagging in @CfettersNachoLover
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  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457
    edited January 2023
    HillsboroDuck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Doogles said:

    You only get 1 mulligan to make the playoffs, and on the west coast it better be a good one. Next year our "B" OOC game is Boise, which will help with strength of schedule as they are favorites in the MWC and have a shot at being the G5 NY6 team. Hopefully our "A" game at East Lansing ends up looking better with a bounce back season from Mel Tucker, though i'm not hopeful on that.

    Need to go undefeated in OOC to have a realistic shot. @SC, @Beav, Ute and the Danimals at home. Gotta save the L for that stretch.

    There is a scenario where we drop a close one to an improved MSU and then run the table. Really unlikely and we would need MSU to be a top 25 skwad and knockoff Michigan or Ohio State, as well
    We aren’t losing to Sparty. Easy win.
    I hope you’re right. I’m starting to get paranoid about any grass field though. Hope our guys are ready.
    Not just any grass field: https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2016/spartan-stadium-named-collegiate-football-field-of-the-year
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  • CatGut
    CatGut Member Posts: 92
    ntxduck said:

    CatGut said:

    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    ntxduck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    ntxduck said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    Doogles said:

    You only get 1 mulligan to make the playoffs, and on the west coast it better be a good one. Next year our "B" OOC game is Boise, which will help with strength of schedule as they are favorites in the MWC and have a shot at being the G5 NY6 team. Hopefully our "A" game at East Lansing ends up looking better with a bounce back season from Mel Tucker, though i'm not hopeful on that.

    Need to go undefeated in OOC to have a realistic shot. @SC, @Beav, Ute and the Danimals at home. Gotta save the L for that stretch.

    There is a scenario where we drop a close one to an improved MSU and then run the table. Really unlikely and we would need MSU to be a top 25 skwad and knockoff Michigan or Ohio State, as well
    We aren’t losing to Sparty. Easy win.
    UW should be favored but it won’t be an easy win. Their fans are dumb and that place will be packed in September
    UW will score a bunch points and Peyton Thorne and their offense sucks until it doesn’t. I don’t see Michigan State being too much better.
    Agree to disagree. Anyone thinking about the trip—if you’re a golfer, I definitely recommend it and spending a few days in northern MI on either side of the game. There’s some pretty nice courses in the EL area, too.
    If I golfed this would be great info.
    I'm going to the game, I golf, but I'm taking my 6-year old son, so golf I shall not. I'm an objectively stupid person and am telling myself it'll be a great father-son bonding event rather than several hours of increasingly hysterical demands for concessions culminating in a halftime departure. Go Dawgs!
    Pro tip for your son, there’s an awesome local ice cream shop (melting moments) that sells ice cream sandwiches in Spartan stadium. Top 3 stadium food I’ve ever had.

    Also tagging in @CfettersNachoLover
    @ntxduck - Forgot to come back to this. I ended up taking my 6 year old to the Michigan St. game. The melting moments ice cream sandwich 100% lived up to the hype.
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