Starting to see a trend here
https://thespun.com/big-ten/ohio-state-buckeyes/football-world-reacts-to-ohio-state-5-star-recruits-admission
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They’re lying. Seen a lot of kids at Texas/Bama etc. say this too. The fans eat it up and it makes the kid feel honorable
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They can not outbid every school for all recruits simultaneously. Since they have been sending 5 stars to the NFL they can take credit for their talent and pass it off as development, to serve as a differentiator.Ice_Holmvik said:It iis obvious Ohio State is spoon feeding this message to recruits. The question is why. Are they trying to get by for less because funds aren't what they should be or are they trying to flaunt their development as an asset.
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Ohio State is embarassing
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It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.
I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.
OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there. -
There is actually a lot of truth to thisCanadawg said:It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.
I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.
OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there.
If you start throwing bags around at certain high schoolers, some are going to have animosity that they aren't earning as much. aTm had a broken locker room do to this, so I've heard -
There’s an Athletic article out with anonymous quotes from top recruits where they all claim Development and ability to get to the league over NIL cash as driving their decisions.
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There's a lot of articles in women's magazines in which men are anonymously interviewed and claim that sense of humor and intelligence are driving their dating decisions.whlinder said:There’s an Athletic article out with anonymous quotes from top recruits where they all claim Development and ability to get to the league over NIL cash as driving their decisions.
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1to392831weretaken said:
There's a lot of articles in women's magazines in which men are anonymously interviewed and claim that sense of humor and intelligence are driving their dating decisions.whlinder said:There’s an Athletic article out with anonymous quotes from top recruits where they all claim Development and ability to get to the league over NIL cash as driving their decisions.
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I also don't buy that a lot of money is being thrown at high school recruits, with maybe a handful of exceptions. Seems like schools realize that the NIL dollar goes a lot further in enticing transfers or getting draft-eligible players to stay another year. The ROI is a lot better on proven vets instead of undeveloped high schoolers who have a much higher chance of busting.Canadawg said:It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.
I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.
OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there. -
Just say “they have a fun offense and a nice stadium”. Don’t blow smoke up our asses about development. Olave came in 2018 with National 73 Kamryn Babb and National 323 Cameron Brown.
2019 the hit with Garret Wilson but lose Jameson Williams
2020- Julian Fleming is the crown jewel. Injuries have hampered his development. Jaxon Njigba-Smith was underperforming until his Rose Bowl. Gee Scott Jr has done nothing.
2021- Emeka they hit Gold with Egbuka but Platinum with Harrison Jr. We will see how Jayden Ballard does.
To me I admire Hartline’s evaluation, he’s been able to find underrated 3 and 4 star gems that produce and offset some of the lack of production coming from higher rated kids
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There'll be a lot of early NIL money spent of HS player who end up busting, but that money will dry up. Transfers are the most cost effective NIL money to spend right now, but that'll change with time.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I also don't buy that a lot of money is being thrown at high school recruits, with maybe a handful of exceptions. Seems like schools realize that the NIL dollar goes a lot further in enticing transfers or getting draft-eligible players to stay another year. The ROI is a lot better on proven vets instead of undeveloped high schoolers who have a much higher chance of busting.Canadawg said:It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.
I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.
OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there. -
I was first and right. As i said after the kienholz interview, it was so fucking weird and he clearly had the vibe of being told to say it.
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looks like oregon didn’t pay attentionPostGameOrangeSlices said:
There is actually a lot of truth to thisCanadawg said:It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.
I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.
OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there.
If you start throwing bags around at certain high schoolers, some are going to have animosity that they aren't earning as much. aTm had a broken locker room do to this, so I've heard -
Why'd you make me do this, Wilbs, why?WilburHooksHands said:I was first and right. As i said after the kienholz interview, it was so fucking weird and he clearly had the vibe of being told to say it.
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So he was being paid to say he didn't want to be paid?WilburHooksHands said:I was first and right. As i said after the kienholz interview, it was so fucking weird and he clearly had the vibe of being told to say it.
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Hartline making $950,000 according to elevenwarriors.com
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The DC makes 2 million at tOSUHHBruh said:Hartline making $950,000 according to elevenwarriors.com
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You guys think Oregon has a lot more NIL money than Oregon actually has.WilburHooksHands said:
looks like oregon didn’t pay attentionPostGameOrangeSlices said:
There is actually a lot of truth to thisCanadawg said:It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.
I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.
OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there.
If you start throwing bags around at certain high schoolers, some are going to have animosity that they aren't earning as much. aTm had a broken locker room do to this, so I've heard
How many pwestons contributing $5/month to ducks rising do you think there actually are? -
Trying to decipher the labrynth of NIL is like trying to understand hundreds of commision structures. It's easy to say "I got offered more money by x university" they may have had a higher NIL payout but harder incentive clauses.
With regard to the Blue Bloods they don't really develop that's that fantasy. What they do is hire the best Co-ordinators and they sift through the Elite talent and surface the kids that want to run the scheme. Like all Teacher/Pupil relationships the Teacher creates the framework and the pupil must put in the work.
Grubb didn't get two raises this last season because he has a proven UW history of development. He is refreshingly clear about expecations. He knows his system works and if the player does what is necessary to see the field they'll have success. 11-2 is a strong testament to the process. -
To be fair, $5/mo is a lot if you are pumping gas for a living.ntxduck said:
You guys think Oregon has a lot more NIL money than Oregon actually has.WilburHooksHands said:
looks like oregon didn’t pay attentionPostGameOrangeSlices said:
There is actually a lot of truth to thisCanadawg said:It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.
I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.
OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there.
If you start throwing bags around at certain high schoolers, some are going to have animosity that they aren't earning as much. aTm had a broken locker room do to this, so I've heard
How many pwestons contributing $5/month to ducks rising do you think there actually are?
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They are among the leaders in average NIL per player. The money is flowing there too.Canadawg said:It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.
I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.
OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there. -
This is not just a tOSU talking point.Canadawg said:It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.
I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.
OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there.
You will likely see the BIG, as it transitions into one of two super conferences, taking the rhetorical "high road" vis-a-vis the NIL debate in order to frame itself as the less corrupt, more wholesome, alternative to the SEC.
The Cold War between BIG and SEC will see the BIG (with its more prestigious academic inventory [including the UW someday?]) acting as the classy conference in stark opposition to their greased-pig-wrestling rivals in Dixie. -
I'm hearing Petersen will be the next B10 commishKingdome_Urinals said:
This is not just a tOSU talking point.Canadawg said:It strikes me as a similar strategy to "limited release" products. They're trying to seperate themselves from the masses by self imposing a restriction and shifting attention to how in demand they are.
I imagine they're still spending lots but I don't think any college fans thinks the path to success is simply bidding the most for players. We've already seen how that works with teams like aTm and individuals like the QB we? just beat.
OSU is smart to not make the money the focus. Recruit them as players always have been and then use NIL as the final push, instead of it being the entire reason they want to go there.
You will likely see the BIG, as it transitions into one of two super conferences, taking the rhetorical "high road" vis-a-vis the NIL debate in order to frame itself as the less corrupt, more wholesome, alternative to the SEC.
The Cold War between BIG and SEC will see the BIG (with its more prestigious academic inventory [including the UW someday?]) acting as the classy conference in stark opposition to their greased-pig-wrestling rivals in Dixie. -
Excellent post ... and, fortunately, no need for that question mark (Griswold faggy wink)Kingdome_Urinals said:
This is not just a tOSU talking point.
You will likely see the BIG, as it transitions into one of two super conferences, taking the rhetorical "high road" vis-a-vis the NIL debate in order to frame itself as the less corrupt, more wholesome, alternative to the SEC.
The Cold War between BIG and SEC will see the BIG (with its more prestigious academic inventory [including the UW someday?]) acting as the classy conference in stark opposition to their greased-pig-wrestling rivals in Dixie.
