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  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,112
  • JECAR
    JECAR Member Posts: 589
    I’m just excited for the days when we? all come full circle and hate him again. Can we? get a pole going to see when that happens?
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    JECAR said:

    I’m just excited for the days when we? all come full circle and hate him again. Can we? get a pole going to see when that happens?

    Your new pole is as good as mine
  • Clevdawg
    Clevdawg Member Posts: 118
    When the day comes. Pay that man
  • Clevdawg
    Clevdawg Member Posts: 118
    When the UW head football coach makes more than Oregon State and Minnesota gophers I might listen to you.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,708 Founders Club
    Clevdawg said:

    When the UW head football coach makes more than Oregon State and Minnesota gophers I might listen to you.

    Jesus Christ.
  • TXDawg
    TXDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 851 Founders Club
    Clevdawg said:

    When the UW head football coach makes more than Oregon State and Minnesota gophers I might listen to you.

    You’re giving the leopard jacket a lot of credit for business acumen right now.
  • Clevdawg
    Clevdawg Member Posts: 118
    The Washington job given the revenue generated should pay at a top 20 level. Why? the athletic department revenue is top 20 in the country. And at times top 10. When Oregon State makes a larger financial commitment to their head football coach than the UW. It demonstrates the UW’s priorities. I want UW to prioritize the football program. More to the point, if you’re capable of reading. Which by all accounts you might be to aid your understanding of correlation coefficient between coaching salaries, athletic department revenue and winning percentage.

    Grab a cocktail and enjoy the article

    Journal of Applied Business and Economics Vol. 22(1) 2020
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    Clevdawg said:

    When the day comes. Pay that man

    You've embarrassed yourself enough with your takes on his pay.

    If UW has another top 10 season he is going to get a raise to somewhere around 6 million. His closest assistant is making 2 million, top 3 in the country. Did you see our offensive booth at the Alamo Bowl? There are like 15 guys on our staff in support roles just in the fucking booth.

    Money is not going to be an issue. If DeBoer was going to leverage UW into going somewhere else, he would've left for Nebraska this year.

    The only scenario that scares me is Harbaugh going to the NFL, and Michigan offering DeBoer something like 10 million a year.

    Even then I bet UW would match and he'd only leave if he wanted to go back to the frozen hellscape of the midwest


    Edit: Ryan Day getting shit canned or leaving would also worry me a bit
    Haven’t coaches figured out that Nebraska is a shitty job yet? I think they have and doubt Deboner is dumb enough to take that jerb.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196

    Clevdawg said:

    When the day comes. Pay that man

    You've embarrassed yourself enough with your takes on his pay.

    If UW has another top 10 season he is going to get a raise to somewhere around 6 million. His closest assistant is making 2 million, top 3 in the country. Did you see our offensive booth at the Alamo Bowl? There are like 15 guys on our staff in support roles just in the fucking booth.

    Money is not going to be an issue. If DeBoer was going to leverage UW into going somewhere else, he would've left for Nebraska this year.

    The only scenario that scares me is Harbaugh going to the NFL, and Michigan offering DeBoer something like 10 million a year.

    Even then I bet UW would match and he'd only leave if he wanted to go back to the frozen hellscape of the midwest


    Edit: Ryan Day getting shit canned or leaving would also worry me a bit
    Haven’t coaches figured out that Nebraska is a shitty job yet? I think they have and doubt Deboner is dumb enough to take that jerb.

    Nebraska is fine. Pelini is the definition of mediocre and had them at 9 wins every year.

    IDK why they hired Mike Riley, that was dumb and not surprising he had no success.

    Frost was an excellent hire at the time it was made, but didn't work out and apparently was Sark 2.0 there with boozing and womenizing.

    I fully expect Rhule to have them winning the B1G West most every year.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,676 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    Clevdawg said:

    The Washington job given the revenue generated should pay at a top 20 level. Why? the athletic department revenue is top 20 in the country. And at times top 10. When Oregon State makes a larger financial commitment to their head football coach than the UW. It demonstrates the UW’s priorities. I want UW to prioritize the football program. More to the point, if you’re capable of reading. Which by all accounts you might be to aid your understanding of correlation coefficient between coaching salaries, athletic department revenue and winning percentage.

    Grab a cocktail and enjoy the article

    Journal of Applied Business and Economics Vol. 22(1) 2020

    You really shouldn't make snarky comments about anybody's ability to read with writing like that. I'm sure you can do better, but man that's bad.

    What OSU paying smith more than UW pays Deboer tells me is that they're getting less for their money by a lot. They're thrilled with 9 wins and occasionally beating Oregon and are overpaying for it.

    You're applying history, which is fine, but being and presumptuous about UWs priorities and trying to shoe horn this coach salary example in at a really illogical time. Deboer exceeded expectations and got a bump. If he progresses next year he'll get another. If he succeeds like all of us currently dooging think, he'll be among the top salaried coaches in the country before long.

    Would it be more in line with your business acumen if UW was paying Matt Campbell 7.5 million to be about as good as Jonathon Smith at best?

    You're criticizing UW for making a stellar hire from a lower level and getting good value for at least two years. Why would they have paid him more than he was willing to accept and more than the market dictates for someone with his credentials? It's a weird idea.
    He also flat out ignores facts like Grubb's salary, the amount of staff we have in support roles, and the NIL money we are throwing around.
    Kinda feeling like a troll job, to be honest. I think it's time to disengage.
  • HHBruh
    HHBruh Member Posts: 507
    If you’re racist and you know it clap your hands
    FireCohen said:

    The difference between Deboner and Lake is night and day………ISAFNRC

  • 79smoothdawg
    79smoothdawg Member Posts: 721
    Title of the thread should be "Deboer brings Washington back to the bar"
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,832 Founders Club
    edited January 2023

    https://coloradobuffaloeswire.usatoday.com/lists/updated-pac-12-head-coach-salaries-deion-sanders-ranks-football/


    DeBoer is between 4.5 an 5 million with most of the pac 12 coaches

    Makes more than Smith

    Not sure what the issue is
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    coloradobuffalowire.usatoday.com is your source?

    Smiff $4.85m in 2023.

    Smith’s guaranteed salary will start at $4.85 million next season and grow to $5.45 million by 2028, the school said. Oregon State also is adding $100,000 to its salary pool for assistant coaches (rising to $4.85 million) and support staff (rising to $2.5 million).

    https://www.opb.org/article/2022/12/11/oregon-state-football-gives-jonathan-smith-new-6-year-30-million-contract/
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,832 Founders Club
    Yeah I really don't read your guys stuff

    Imagine paying a career loser that much money

    DeBoer will pass him rather easily
  • FireTheJanitor
    FireTheJanitor Member Posts: 1,483

    chuck said:

    Clevdawg said:

    The Washington job given the revenue generated should pay at a top 20 level. Why? the athletic department revenue is top 20 in the country. And at times top 10. When Oregon State makes a larger financial commitment to their head football coach than the UW. It demonstrates the UW’s priorities. I want UW to prioritize the football program. More to the point, if you’re capable of reading. Which by all accounts you might be to aid your understanding of correlation coefficient between coaching salaries, athletic department revenue and winning percentage.

    Grab a cocktail and enjoy the article

    Journal of Applied Business and Economics Vol. 22(1) 2020

    You really shouldn't make snarky comments about anybody's ability to read with writing like that. I'm sure you can do better, but man that's bad.

    What OSU paying smith more than UW pays Deboer tells me is that they're getting less for their money by a lot. They're thrilled with 9 wins and occasionally beating Oregon and are overpaying for it.

    You're applying history, which is fine, but being and presumptuous about UWs priorities and trying to shoe horn this coach salary example in at a really illogical time. Deboer exceeded expectations and got a bump. If he progresses next year he'll get another. If he succeeds like all of us currently dooging think, he'll be among the top salaried coaches in the country before long.

    Would it be more in line with your business acumen if UW was paying Matt Campbell 7.5 million to be about as good as Jonathon Smith at best?

    You're criticizing UW for making a stellar hire from a lower level and getting good value for at least two years. Why would they have paid him more than he was willing to accept and more than the market dictates for someone with his credentials? It's a weird idea.
    He also flat out ignores facts like Grubb's salary, the amount of staff we have in support roles, and the NIL money we are throwing around.
    There’s almost nothing to add, except neither one of you called him a dumbfuck so I’ll help out there.
  • gmo
    gmo Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,849 Founders Club
    edited January 2023
    you all really think UW administration would match a $10M/year offer?

    Based on what exactly? Besides Dooging i mean.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,196
    gmo said:

    you all really think UW administration would match a $10M/year offer?

    Based on what exactly? Besides Dooging i mean.

    for Mel Tucker or Urban Meyer? Hell no

    For a proven winner and high character man like DeBoer? Absolutely
  • Clevdawg
    Clevdawg Member Posts: 118
    That’s the entire point. The UW can afford 10 million and won’t do it…………….As a percentage of Athletic Department revenue we won’t do it. Jesus, Oregon State Head football coach has no business being close in total compensation to a UW Head coach yet there he is. Why? the disparity in athletic department revenue that’s generated. Btw … A half a stick raise for an assistant for UW and the fans go nuts…. That’s short money. Let’s talk NIL ? Dewand Jones Buckeye offensive tackle makes more than Penix. In fact the top 2 Buckeyes make more than the entire UW football team on NIL. UW is not serious about football. They are kinda of serious. Below is the link to chew on NIL. Even when Peterson got his big contract he was 19th highest paid coach in the country. But top on PAC-12.. Still not elite… Hey if any fan of the program thinks we will be Top 10 in the country for NIL and for coaches be my guest. UW brings in more money than Clemson. We really do..
    Athletic Revenue

    https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2021/06/where-does-your-school-rank-among-richest-and-poorest-power-5-college-football-programs-new-revenue-figures-for-all-65.html?outputType=amp


    NIL link
    https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/

  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,937
    Clevdawg said:

    That’s the entire point. The UW can afford 10 million and won’t do it…………….As a percentage of Athletic Department revenue we won’t do it. Jesus, Oregon State Head football coach has no business being close in total compensation to a UW Head coach yet there he is. Why? the disparity in athletic department revenue that’s generated. Btw … A half a stick raise for an assistant for UW and the fans go nuts…. That’s short money. Let’s talk NIL ? Dewand Jones Buckeye offensive tackle makes more than Penix. In fact the top 2 Buckeyes make more than the entire UW football team on NIL. UW is not serious about football. They are kinda of serious. Below is the link to chew on NIL. Even when Peterson got his big contract he was 19th highest paid coach in the country. But top on PAC-12.. Still not elite… Hey if any fan of the program thinks we will be Top 10 in the country for NIL and for coaches be my guest. UW brings in more money than Clemson. We really do..
    Athletic Revenue

    https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2021/06/where-does-your-school-rank-among-richest-and-poorest-power-5-college-football-programs-new-revenue-figures-for-all-65.html?outputType=amp


    NIL link
    https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/

    you realize those are on3 valuations right? NIL deals aren't public information.
  • FireTheJanitor
    FireTheJanitor Member Posts: 1,483
    Clevdawg said:

    That’s the entire point. The UW can afford 10 million and won’t do it…………….As a percentage of Athletic Department revenue we won’t do it. Jesus, Oregon State Head football coach has no business being close in total compensation to a UW Head coach yet there he is. Why? the disparity in athletic department revenue that’s generated. Btw … A half a stick raise for an assistant for UW and the fans go nuts…. That’s short money. Let’s talk NIL ? Dewand Jones Buckeye offensive tackle makes more than Penix. In fact the top 2 Buckeyes make more than the entire UW football team on NIL. UW is not serious about football. They are kinda of serious. Below is the link to chew on NIL. Even when Peterson got his big contract he was 19th highest paid coach in the country. But top on PAC-12.. Still not elite… Hey if any fan of the program thinks we will be Top 10 in the country for NIL and for coaches be my guest. UW brings in more money than Clemson. We really do..
    Athletic Revenue

    https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2021/06/where-does-your-school-rank-among-richest-and-poorest-power-5-college-football-programs-new-revenue-figures-for-all-65.html?outputType=amp


    NIL link
    https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/

    Context matters, for Christ sake. Lot of hand wringing over money when the coach agreed to an extension 2 weeks ago. He’s fine with the pay, as is Grubb, as is the rest of the coaching staff. Maybe you should be too? But, good to know we have all the money we need if anyone comes poaching. Maybe we should save it for that rainy day vs. throwing money for the fuck of it which you keep suggesting is the elusive key to success?

    Are our guys transferring to Ohio State and I missed it? Or do you want to go the A&M route and pay 17 year old retards before they’ve even shown up on campus? I’m guessing yes based on your dumb as fuck takes so far.