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WoolleyDoog
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A lot is made of college football coaches about if they can win with their guys or if they need more Tim. Was thinking of what the post-James UW coaches have inherited. How do you think the coaches have stacked up with what they inherited roster wise when they took over the job? Here's what I think

1. Neuheisel - The depth of talent on the early-Neu teams still startles me and I don't think the program has ever gotten back there. Got a better deal than Lambo because he got Tui, who also convinced them to run the option in 2000.
2. Lambo - Deep/Stacked roster. He didn't inherit a true difference maker at QB though.
3. Petersen - Did actually inherit some really nice talent pieces from the dreaded Sark and specifically some crucial guys who were guys he wouldn't have recruited.
4. DeBoer - The roster wasn't filled with busts, just with nice four-star talent that had been coached horribly. Penix doesn't count as something he inherited.
5. Sark - A few nice NFL pieces Willingham was squandering and Locker at QB the big piece.
6. Gilby - The roster had quietly turned to shit under Neuheisel. The 2003 team actually had some real good pieces in Pickett/Reggie/Tank Johnson/Marquis Cooper/Khalif - hence how it won six games with fucking Gilby coaching.
7. Willingham - He's still the worst coach of this bunch. Doesn't mean he didn't inherit a roster turned to shit by Neuheisel and Gilby.

I don't know what to do with Jimmy considering the Covid season adn shit.
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  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,901
    HillsboroDuck said:

    WoolleyDoog said:

    A lot is made of college football coaches about if they can win with their guys or if they need more Tim. Was thinking of what the post-James UW coaches have inherited. How do you think the coaches have stacked up with what they inherited roster wise when they took over the job? Here's what I think

    1. Neuheisel - The depth of talent on the early-Neu teams still startles me and I don't think the program has ever gotten back there. Got a better deal than Lambo because he got Tui, who also convinced them to run the option in 2000.
    2. Lambo - Deep/Stacked roster. He didn't inherit a true difference maker at QB though.
    3. Petersen - Did actually inherit some really nice talent pieces from the dreaded Sark and specifically some crucial guys who were guys he wouldn't have recruited.
    4. DeBoer - The roster wasn't filled with busts, just with nice four-star talent that had been coached horribly. Penix doesn't count as something he inherited.
    5. Sark - A few nice NFL pieces Willingham was squandering and Locker at QB the big piece.
    6. Gilby - The roster had quietly turned to shit under Neuheisel. The 2003 team actually had some real good pieces in Pickett/Reggie/Tank Johnson/Marquis Cooper/Khalif - hence how it won six games with fucking Gilby coaching.
    7. Willingham - He's still the worst coach of this bunch. Doesn't mean he didn't inherit a roster turned to shit by Neuheisel and Gilby.

    I don't know what to do with Jimmy considering the Covid season adn shit.

    DeBoer didn’t inherit anything of note that Lake didn’t inherit and Lake inherited incredible CBs while KDB got none.

    Give DeBoer the 2020 roster and he makes the playoff in 2021 (assuming he finds a QB in his first two years)
    An interesting point. With puka, jalen, Rome, mcgrew in a functioning spread offense uw would likely have been better. The Jon don offense was a player killer.
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  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,901
    HillsboroDuck said:

    WoolleyDoog said:

    A lot is made of college football coaches about if they can win with their guys or if they need more Tim. Was thinking of what the post-James UW coaches have inherited. How do you think the coaches have stacked up with what they inherited roster wise when they took over the job? Here's what I think

    1. Neuheisel - The depth of talent on the early-Neu teams still startles me and I don't think the program has ever gotten back there. Got a better deal than Lambo because he got Tui, who also convinced them to run the option in 2000.
    2. Lambo - Deep/Stacked roster. He didn't inherit a true difference maker at QB though.
    3. Petersen - Did actually inherit some really nice talent pieces from the dreaded Sark and specifically some crucial guys who were guys he wouldn't have recruited.
    4. DeBoer - The roster wasn't filled with busts, just with nice four-star talent that had been coached horribly. Penix doesn't count as something he inherited.
    5. Sark - A few nice NFL pieces Willingham was squandering and Locker at QB the big piece.
    6. Gilby - The roster had quietly turned to shit under Neuheisel. The 2003 team actually had some real good pieces in Pickett/Reggie/Tank Johnson/Marquis Cooper/Khalif - hence how it won six games with fucking Gilby coaching.
    7. Willingham - He's still the worst coach of this bunch. Doesn't mean he didn't inherit a roster turned to shit by Neuheisel and Gilby.

    I don't know what to do with Jimmy considering the Covid season adn shit.

    Tui was only a difference maker because RN was smart enough to abandon his entire offense and run the offense that maximized Tui’s talents. It remains by far the best coaching move any UW coach has made that I was old enough to observe in real time (DJ’s recurring philosophy change after the Bama loss was probably better but I was too young to have any concept of teen boi stocking).
    The 2000 defense was really talented at every level. Tough kids too.

    Best inheritance of any uw coach.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,841 Swaye's Wigwam
    HillsboroDuck said:

    chuck said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    Deboer’s inherited RBs and DBs were by far the worst positions of any though.

    RB for sure but Petersen had to play Shaq and there was nobody at DB aside from Peters. The back end was woeful until his true frosh recruits started to figure it out.

    Petersen got a shit OL, shit RBs, shit QBs, and shit WR too (the positions you'd think Sark the recruiter and offensive genius would've had stocked). Deboer at least inherited a good OL and good WR. Both got pretty decent lines but Pete got way better linebackers.

    It's close.
    I would take what DeBoer inherited over what Pete inherited rather easily. Pete inherited a few stars but almost zero depth and the stars he inherited were basically all seniors except for Ross and Azeem.

    For me

    Lambo
    Rick
    Lake
    DeBoer
    Pete
    Sark
    Gilby
    Ty
    I would also put Lake at #3. Everyone knew he inherited a good roster.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 70,124 Founders Club
    HillsboroDuck said:

    WoolleyDoog said:

    A lot is made of college football coaches about if they can win with their guys or if they need more Tim. Was thinking of what the post-James UW coaches have inherited. How do you think the coaches have stacked up with what they inherited roster wise when they took over the job? Here's what I think

    1. Neuheisel - The depth of talent on the early-Neu teams still startles me and I don't think the program has ever gotten back there. Got a better deal than Lambo because he got Tui, who also convinced them to run the option in 2000.
    2. Lambo - Deep/Stacked roster. He didn't inherit a true difference maker at QB though.
    3. Petersen - Did actually inherit some really nice talent pieces from the dreaded Sark and specifically some crucial guys who were guys he wouldn't have recruited.
    4. DeBoer - The roster wasn't filled with busts, just with nice four-star talent that had been coached horribly. Penix doesn't count as something he inherited.
    5. Sark - A few nice NFL pieces Willingham was squandering and Locker at QB the big piece.
    6. Gilby - The roster had quietly turned to shit under Neuheisel. The 2003 team actually had some real good pieces in Pickett/Reggie/Tank Johnson/Marquis Cooper/Khalif - hence how it won six games with fucking Gilby coaching.
    7. Willingham - He's still the worst coach of this bunch. Doesn't mean he didn't inherit a roster turned to shit by Neuheisel and Gilby.

    I don't know what to do with Jimmy considering the Covid season adn shit.

    Tui was only a difference maker because RN was smart enough to abandon his entire offense and run the offense that maximized Tui’s talents. It remains by far the best coaching move any UW coach has made that I was old enough to observe in real time (DJ’s recurring philosophy change after the Bama loss was probably better but I was too young to have any concept of teen boi stocking).
    DJ/Lambo switching to the 46 defense in 1989
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