UW offense question for the board
This was first year in forever that by the end of the season when it was 3rd and 8 i just assumed they would get it.
Im not Xs Os person at all and curious of any insight.
WR seemed open at all times.
I emailed Fishduck for his insight for info and he/him has yet to respond.
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BDE from coach, coordinator, and QB.
Talented WR's schemed open with generational talent pulling the trigger.
Penix is essentially playing at the Joe Burrow LSU level but surrounded with lesser talent (even though the WRs are very good, don't twist).
Good protection too, combined with average to below average defensive opponents. -
Time to find open receivers is the biggest factor. Fat guys up front doing work.
The scheme is great and Penix has a rifle, but without the line play, it doesn’t work to this extent. -
Ask your husband while you make him a sandwich
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Sorry i hurt your feelings earlier.RaceBannon said:Ask your husband while you make him a sandwich
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Difference between Donavan and Grubb offense is night and day.
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Not true X and O hot talk, but quick thoughts:
How many times in the past did we not do what we were good at because that's what the defense expects us to do so we're going to besmartcute and do the opposite thing which we suck at but at least the defense won't expect it then fuck up because we suck at it ha ha he he ho ho.
One thing we do well is unapologetically attack to our strengths.
It's cliche, but we literally blow the top off of defenses. It's not just the threat of going deep, but the fact we take shots pretty much every series that loosens up the intermediate routes. We're also unpredictable because we take chances. The 3rd and 7 Bomb against Oregon is a perfect example, Oregon sitting at the first down marker opened up the window just enough for Penix to let it rip.
The offense executes at a high level under stressful circumstances. The opposite of Petersen's teams.
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Can verify.RaceBannon said:
I don't have feelingslongduckdong said: -
We operate like we don't respect the defense, whether trying to get a first down or just trying to score.Doogles said:Not true X and O hot talk, but quick thoughts:
How many times in the past did we not do what we were good at because that's what the defense expects us to do so we're going to besmartcute and do the opposite thing which we suck at but at least the defense won't expect it then fuck up because we suck at it ha ha he he ho ho.
One thing we do well is unapologetically attack to our strengths.
It's cliche, but we literally blow the top off of defenses. It's not just the threat of going deep, but the fact we take shots pretty much every series that loosens up the intermediate routes. We're also unpredictable because we take chances. The 3rd and 7 Bomb against Oregon is a perfect example, Oregon sitting at the first down marker opened up the window just enough for Penix to let it rip.
The offense executes at a high level under stressful circumstances. The opposite of Petersen's teams. -
Yep.haie said:
We operate like we don't respect the defense, whether trying to get a first down or just trying to score.Doogles said:Not true X and O hot talk, but quick thoughts:
How many times in the past did we not do what we were good at because that's what the defense expects us to do so we're going to besmartcute and do the opposite thing which we suck at but at least the defense won't expect it then fuck up because we suck at it ha ha he he ho ho.
One thing we do well is unapologetically attack to our strengths.
It's cliche, but we literally blow the top off of defenses. It's not just the threat of going deep, but the fact we take shots pretty much every series that loosens up the intermediate routes. We're also unpredictable because we take chances. The 3rd and 7 Bomb against Oregon is a perfect example, Oregon sitting at the first down marker opened up the window just enough for Penix to let it rip.
The offense executes at a high level under stressful circumstances. The opposite of Petersen's teams.
Also, Penix has been spectacular, but he's barely been touched all year. The two most recent times he's been forced to make plays on the run he's thrown picks in the redzone. His decision making and accuracy clearly go down when flushed and luckily he's barely had to deal with it.
W/O watching any film so I could be wrong, I imagine his last season at Indiana where he threw more picks than TDs and barely completed 50% had a lot to do with his protection. Oh and he only lasted 5 games. -
Penix has thrown a pick in every single game this month except Colorado and still comes out with an amazing QBR and having been the main reason we win. With it incredible stats.Doogles said:
Yep.haie said:
We operate like we don't respect the defense, whether trying to get a first down or just trying to score.Doogles said:Not true X and O hot talk, but quick thoughts:
How many times in the past did we not do what we were good at because that's what the defense expects us to do so we're going to besmartcute and do the opposite thing which we suck at but at least the defense won't expect it then fuck up because we suck at it ha ha he he ho ho.
One thing we do well is unapologetically attack to our strengths.
It's cliche, but we literally blow the top off of defenses. It's not just the threat of going deep, but the fact we take shots pretty much every series that loosens up the intermediate routes. We're also unpredictable because we take chances. The 3rd and 7 Bomb against Oregon is a perfect example, Oregon sitting at the first down marker opened up the window just enough for Penix to let it rip.
The offense executes at a high level under stressful circumstances. The opposite of Petersen's teams.
Also, Penix has been spectacular, but he's barely been touched all year. The two most recent times he's been forced to make plays on the run he's thrown picks in the redzone. His decision making and accuracy clearly go down when flushed and luckily he's barely had to deal with it.
W/O watching any film so I could be wrong, I imagine his last season at Indiana where he threw more picks than TDs and barely completed 50% had a lot to do with his protection. Oh and he only lasted 5 games.
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Couldn’t tell you a ton about this years scheme specifically but know a moderate amount about what they ran and Fresno, it’s basically the same but a more limited run game. (Go figure.)longduckdong said:Looking for “higher level” discussion on what makes UW passing attack so great?
This was first year in forever that by the end of the season when it was 3rd and 8 i just assumed they would get it.
Im not Xs Os person at all and curious of any insight.
WR seemed open at all times.
I emailed Fishduck for his insight for info and he/him has yet to respond.
They use TEs to change the front/coverage look from the defense. Shifting them from an in-line position to the slot will usually leave a loaded box, getting the defense in a run game coverage, or the defense will have a limited amount of coverages to check to, usually leaving them misaligned in the run game - hence the big runs.
Bunch formations are huge within because they limit what a defense can do, if the inside man on the bunch is a TE, is he counted in the run for, what if he shifts to the other side? It confuses the hell out of defensive coordinators and obviously is really hard on 18-23 year olds, most offense just use motion, not multiple people shifting.
Imagine this - you’re playing middle of the field safety, your run key is the TE on the inside of bunch, if he cracks inside to the LB, you have to shoot the gap for the run, then boom, the TE runs inside on what looks like a crack and you take two steps forward before you realize it’s a crossing route and Rome Odunze is already 5 yards behind you
