Regardless of party, mail in voting and especially vote harvesting invite malarky and shenanigans by breaking the chain of custody and having no means of verifying a ballot was properly filled out by the person's name it bears. No ID, no precinct, signature verification is a joke, so it's mostly based on good faith, which the party who pushed Russian Collusion for 4 years is not entitled to.
If elections aren't secure, there's no way to validate them, and the party in power doesn't indict or investigate itself, so by the time Election Day rolls around, it's too late to challenge without a boatload of cash, volunteers, and a court willing to allow audits, which few are, because it's much easier to throw the problems back into the lap of the legislature and say, "you wanted this, you got it."
Speculation... the facts are that multiple studies have show that voter fraud is very very very rare... and it stands to reason. Who'd risk a felony from a few lousy votes? Personally I had to input my driver's license, they checked my signature
Good for you. In person voting is not a concern, like I said, voting by mail and vote harvesting are the issues.
Can't anyone explain, like you or @MelloDawg said has been done multiple times, where 26 million new votes came from in 2020. If there's an explanation that bests my speculation, I'd like to hear it, as I haven't yet, despite your confidence and assurances.
Sounds like it would hold up in a court of law to me. Judgment for the plaintiff.
Just like the illegal change to state voter laws to force vote by mail. Ruled illegal after the fact but hey, what are you going to do.
Regardless of party, mail in voting and especially vote harvesting invite malarky and shenanigans by breaking the chain of custody and having no means of verifying a ballot was properly filled out by the person's name it bears. No ID, no precinct, signature verification is a joke, so it's mostly based on good faith, which the party who pushed Russian Collusion for 4 years is not entitled to.
If elections aren't secure, there's no way to validate them, and the party in power doesn't indict or investigate itself, so by the time Election Day rolls around, it's too late to challenge without a boatload of cash, volunteers, and a court willing to allow audits, which few are, because it's much easier to throw the problems back into the lap of the legislature and say, "you wanted this, you got it."
Speculation... the facts are that multiple studies have show that voter fraud is very very very rare... and it stands to reason. Who'd risk a felony from a few lousy votes? Personally I had to input my driver's license, they checked my signature
Good for you. In person voting is not a concern, like I said, voting by mail and vote harvesting are the issues.
Can't anyone explain, like you or @MelloDawg said has been done multiple times, where 26 million new votes came from in 2020. If there's an explanation that bests my speculation, I'd like to hear it, as I haven't yet, despite your confidence and assurances.
Sounds like it would hold up in a court of law to me. Judgment for the plaintiff.
Just like the illegal change to state voter laws to force vote by mail. Ruled illegal after the fact but hey, what are you going to do.
Progs don't care if the voting machines, printers and computers in the largest county in AZ all go tits up on election day. The day most Republican voters vote. Nothing to see here, move along. You fucking losers are so pathetic.
every election has issues. Light printer ink. Get over it.
Things ignorant dumbfucks poast on message boards. Just toss it in the box over there, we'll make sure it doesn't get confused with already counted ballots. Oopsie! Issues all across Maricopa county on election day. Just some ink problems. Fuck off.
So you have proof of a double-count?
Why do you suppose your team is suing to stop a hand recount?
Probably because the winning margins don't justify an expensive recount. A recount would only matter if the result was close. It's not. And you can't just suggest there was double counting without some kind of proof.
Probably? So you don't know.
You need proof but there's no reason to look for proof
Got it. Sue to stop a recount because fiscal responsibility
The shit you guys swallow
There's nothing more fiscally responsible than being able to have a process that is easily auditable and required to be fully audited. Can easily keep the costs of audits down by simplifying the entire election process.
Not only fiscally responsible but it ensures an honest election. Unfortunately that violates two core principles of the left.
Regardless of party, mail in voting and especially vote harvesting invite malarky and shenanigans by breaking the chain of custody and having no means of verifying a ballot was properly filled out by the person's name it bears. No ID, no precinct, signature verification is a joke, so it's mostly based on good faith, which the party who pushed Russian Collusion for 4 years is not entitled to.
If elections aren't secure, there's no way to validate them, and the party in power doesn't indict or investigate itself, so by the time Election Day rolls around, it's too late to challenge without a boatload of cash, volunteers, and a court willing to allow audits, which few are, because it's much easier to throw the problems back into the lap of the legislature and say, "you wanted this, you got it."
Speculation... the facts are that multiple studies have show that voter fraud is very very very rare... and it stands to reason. Who'd risk a felony from a few lousy votes? Personally I had to input my driver's license, they checked my signature
Good for you. In person voting is not a concern, like I said, voting by mail and vote harvesting are the issues.
Can't anyone explain, like you or @MelloDawg said has been done multiple times, where 26 million new votes came from in 2020. If there's an explanation that bests my speculation, I'd like to hear it, as I haven't yet, despite your confidence and assurances.
Sounds like it would hold up in a court of law to me. Judgment for the plaintiff.
Still haven't explained where 26 million new voters came from in 2022. Why are you ducking the question?
How many weeks will pass without an answer from those of you who claim and believe all mail-in-voting elections are squeaky clean and were in 2020 and 2022?
Regardless of party, mail in voting and especially vote harvesting invite malarky and shenanigans by breaking the chain of custody and having no means of verifying a ballot was properly filled out by the person's name it bears. No ID, no precinct, signature verification is a joke, so it's mostly based on good faith, which the party who pushed Russian Collusion for 4 years is not entitled to.
If elections aren't secure, there's no way to validate them, and the party in power doesn't indict or investigate itself, so by the time Election Day rolls around, it's too late to challenge without a boatload of cash, volunteers, and a court willing to allow audits, which few are, because it's much easier to throw the problems back into the lap of the legislature and say, "you wanted this, you got it."
Speculation... the facts are that multiple studies have show that voter fraud is very very very rare... and it stands to reason. Who'd risk a felony from a few lousy votes? Personally I had to input my driver's license, they checked my signature
Good for you. In person voting is not a concern, like I said, voting by mail and vote harvesting are the issues.
Can't anyone explain, like you or @MelloDawg said has been done multiple times, where 26 million new votes came from in 2020. If there's an explanation that bests my speculation, I'd like to hear it, as I haven't yet, despite your confidence and assurances.
Sounds like it would hold up in a court of law to me. Judgment for the plaintiff.
Funny how you didn't apply that standard equally in this very thred.
Some may even accuse you of having double standards that don't apply equally.
Regardless of party, mail in voting and especially vote harvesting invite malarky and shenanigans by breaking the chain of custody and having no means of verifying a ballot was properly filled out by the person's name it bears. No ID, no precinct, signature verification is a joke, so it's mostly based on good faith, which the party who pushed Russian Collusion for 4 years is not entitled to.
If elections aren't secure, there's no way to validate them, and the party in power doesn't indict or investigate itself, so by the time Election Day rolls around, it's too late to challenge without a boatload of cash, volunteers, and a court willing to allow audits, which few are, because it's much easier to throw the problems back into the lap of the legislature and say, "you wanted this, you got it."
Speculation... the facts are that multiple studies have show that voter fraud is very very very rare... and it stands to reason. Who'd risk a felony from a few lousy votes? Personally I had to input my driver's license, they checked my signature
Good for you. In person voting is not a concern, like I said, voting by mail and vote harvesting are the issues.
Can't anyone explain, like you or @MelloDawg said has been done multiple times, where 26 million new votes came from in 2020. If there's an explanation that bests my speculation, I'd like to hear it, as I haven't yet, despite your confidence and assurances.
I'm surprised any of you keep arguing with Team Prog over this. They will never change their minds. They WANT no chain of custody. They WANT opportunity for fraud. Just like they are trying to change election laws to lets felons and illegals vote, etc. They have no valid reasons for wanting less verification, thus security, in the system. And because their position is indefensible, I mean who could possibly be against one citizen one verifiable vote, they have forced Jim Crow 2.0 into the lexicon. Same as it's always been. If your position has no basis in fairness, but you can't say that, blame racism. The progs here know that all the legislative efforts to loosen vote security are by design, to ensure Dems get elected. And if you complain about it, you must be a racist.
Republicans are going to have to figure out a way to win in this environment, and then when finally in power do not puss out, stand up to the charges of racism, and fix election laws state by state. See DeSantis, Ron, for ways to do that.
This but also.
It's obvious these people have no values or principles.
They don't care if they are hypocrites. They don't care if they are liars. They don't care if they've been proven wrong and given a [Citation]. They don't care if they apply moving standards and goalposts. They don't care if something is purely partisan. It's all just a means to an end for people who lack any internal morality.
They are partisans and appartchiks who have internalized the party propaganda as part of their identity. They are demoocrats.
@MelloDawg@HHusky@BearsWiin consistently demonstrate it by parroting the party line. All while maintaining a delusional sense of moral and intellectual superiority.
Regardless of party, mail in voting and especially vote harvesting invite malarky and shenanigans by breaking the chain of custody and having no means of verifying a ballot was properly filled out by the person's name it bears. No ID, no precinct, signature verification is a joke, so it's mostly based on good faith, which the party who pushed Russian Collusion for 4 years is not entitled to.
If elections aren't secure, there's no way to validate them, and the party in power doesn't indict or investigate itself, so by the time Election Day rolls around, it's too late to challenge without a boatload of cash, volunteers, and a court willing to allow audits, which few are, because it's much easier to throw the problems back into the lap of the legislature and say, "you wanted this, you got it."
Speculation... the facts are that multiple studies have show that voter fraud is very very very rare... and it stands to reason. Who'd risk a felony from a few lousy votes? Personally I had to input my driver's license, they checked my signature
Good for you. In person voting is not a concern, like I said, voting by mail and vote harvesting are the issues.
Can't anyone explain, like you or @MelloDawg said has been done multiple times, where 26 million new votes came from in 2020. If there's an explanation that bests my speculation, I'd like to hear it, as I haven't yet, despite your confidence and assurances.
I know we're all shocked that TurdForBrains is still mindlessly repeating his question on the next page.
'Cuz he was really curious.
somebody should tip off ShitForBrainsBomber that there is this new invention since the internet called the "search engine." Altavista is a possibility. You type in things like "compare 2016 2020 election" and then you get links to a number of reports, typically from think-tanks run by a lot of people with Ivy League educations.
Regardless of party, mail in voting and especially vote harvesting invite malarky and shenanigans by breaking the chain of custody and having no means of verifying a ballot was properly filled out by the person's name it bears. No ID, no precinct, signature verification is a joke, so it's mostly based on good faith, which the party who pushed Russian Collusion for 4 years is not entitled to.
If elections aren't secure, there's no way to validate them, and the party in power doesn't indict or investigate itself, so by the time Election Day rolls around, it's too late to challenge without a boatload of cash, volunteers, and a court willing to allow audits, which few are, because it's much easier to throw the problems back into the lap of the legislature and say, "you wanted this, you got it."
Speculation... the facts are that multiple studies have show that voter fraud is very very very rare... and it stands to reason. Who'd risk a felony from a few lousy votes? Personally I had to input my driver's license, they checked my signature
Good for you. In person voting is not a concern, like I said, voting by mail and vote harvesting are the issues.
Can't anyone explain, like you or @MelloDawg said has been done multiple times, where 26 million new votes came from in 2020. If there's an explanation that bests my speculation, I'd like to hear it, as I haven't yet, despite your confidence and assurances.
I know we're all shocked that TurdForBrains is still mindlessly repeating his question on the next page.
'Cuz he was really curious.
somebody should tip off ShitForBrainsBomber that there is this new invention since the internet called the "search engine." Altavista is a possibility. You type in things like "compare 2016 2020 election" and then you get links to a number of reports, typically from think-tanks run by a lot of people with Ivy League educations.
It's cute that you don't think you are getting very curated search results from every place.
Regardless of party, mail in voting and especially vote harvesting invite malarky and shenanigans by breaking the chain of custody and having no means of verifying a ballot was properly filled out by the person's name it bears. No ID, no precinct, signature verification is a joke, so it's mostly based on good faith, which the party who pushed Russian Collusion for 4 years is not entitled to.
If elections aren't secure, there's no way to validate them, and the party in power doesn't indict or investigate itself, so by the time Election Day rolls around, it's too late to challenge without a boatload of cash, volunteers, and a court willing to allow audits, which few are, because it's much easier to throw the problems back into the lap of the legislature and say, "you wanted this, you got it."
Speculation... the facts are that multiple studies have show that voter fraud is very very very rare... and it stands to reason. Who'd risk a felony from a few lousy votes? Personally I had to input my driver's license, they checked my signature
Good for you. In person voting is not a concern, like I said, voting by mail and vote harvesting are the issues.
Can't anyone explain, like you or @MelloDawg said has been done multiple times, where 26 million new votes came from in 2020. If there's an explanation that bests my speculation, I'd like to hear it, as I haven't yet, despite your confidence and assurances.
I know we're all shocked that TurdForBrains is still mindlessly repeating his question on the next page.
'Cuz he was really curious.
somebody should tip off ShitForBrainsBomber that there is this new invention since the internet called the "search engine." Altavista is a possibility. You type in things like "compare 2016 2020 election" and then you get links to a number of reports, typically from think-tanks run by a lot of people with Ivy League educations.
So the answer is that you're too lazy or incapable of answering a basic simple question, and still swallow "Ivy League educations" - the Homes for Woke Culture and Racial Segregation - as credible sources for your information.
Regardless of party, mail in voting and especially vote harvesting invite malarky and shenanigans by breaking the chain of custody and having no means of verifying a ballot was properly filled out by the person's name it bears. No ID, no precinct, signature verification is a joke, so it's mostly based on good faith, which the party who pushed Russian Collusion for 4 years is not entitled to.
If elections aren't secure, there's no way to validate them, and the party in power doesn't indict or investigate itself, so by the time Election Day rolls around, it's too late to challenge without a boatload of cash, volunteers, and a court willing to allow audits, which few are, because it's much easier to throw the problems back into the lap of the legislature and say, "you wanted this, you got it."
Speculation... the facts are that multiple studies have show that voter fraud is very very very rare... and it stands to reason. Who'd risk a felony from a few lousy votes? Personally I had to input my driver's license, they checked my signature
Good for you. In person voting is not a concern, like I said, voting by mail and vote harvesting are the issues.
Can't anyone explain, like you or @MelloDawg said has been done multiple times, where 26 million new votes came from in 2020. If there's an explanation that bests my speculation, I'd like to hear it, as I haven't yet, despite your confidence and assurances.
I know we're all shocked that TurdForBrains is still mindlessly repeating his question on the next page.
'Cuz he was really curious.
somebody should tip off ShitForBrainsBomber that there is this new invention since the internet called the "search engine." Altavista is a possibility. You type in things like "compare 2016 2020 election" and then you get links to a number of reports, typically from think-tanks run by a lot of people with Ivy League educations.
So the answer is that you're too lazy or incapable of answering a basic simple question, and still swallow "Ivy League educations" - the Homes for Woke Culture and Racial Segregation - as credible sources for your information.
Of course I am incapable on my own of answering the question since I don't have fucking data in front of me. That's why, einstein, you look it up.
Regardless of party, mail in voting and especially vote harvesting invite malarky and shenanigans by breaking the chain of custody and having no means of verifying a ballot was properly filled out by the person's name it bears. No ID, no precinct, signature verification is a joke, so it's mostly based on good faith, which the party who pushed Russian Collusion for 4 years is not entitled to.
If elections aren't secure, there's no way to validate them, and the party in power doesn't indict or investigate itself, so by the time Election Day rolls around, it's too late to challenge without a boatload of cash, volunteers, and a court willing to allow audits, which few are, because it's much easier to throw the problems back into the lap of the legislature and say, "you wanted this, you got it."
Speculation... the facts are that multiple studies have show that voter fraud is very very very rare... and it stands to reason. Who'd risk a felony from a few lousy votes? Personally I had to input my driver's license, they checked my signature
Good for you. In person voting is not a concern, like I said, voting by mail and vote harvesting are the issues.
Can't anyone explain, like you or @MelloDawg said has been done multiple times, where 26 million new votes came from in 2020. If there's an explanation that bests my speculation, I'd like to hear it, as I haven't yet, despite your confidence and assurances.
I know we're all shocked that TurdForBrains is still mindlessly repeating his question on the next page.
'Cuz he was really curious.
somebody should tip off ShitForBrainsBomber that there is this new invention since the internet called the "search engine." Altavista is a possibility. You type in things like "compare 2016 2020 election" and then you get links to a number of reports, typically from think-tanks run by a lot of people with Ivy League educations.
So the answer is that you're too lazy or incapable of answering a basic simple question, and still swallow "Ivy League educations" - the Homes for Woke Culture and Racial Segregation - as credible sources for your information.
Of course I am incapable on my own of answering the question since I don't have fucking data in front of me. That's why, einstein, you look it up.
More specificity from a leftard to support a policy position. Really persuasive. Last time a leftard used a post with numbers and shit? First time? Anytime?
I'm surprised any of you keep arguing with Team Prog over this. They will never change their minds. They WANT no chain of custody. They WANT opportunity for fraud. Just like they are trying to change election laws to lets felons and illegals vote, etc. They have no valid reasons for wanting less verification, thus security, in the system. And because their position is indefensible, I mean who could possibly be against one citizen one verifiable vote, they have forced Jim Crow 2.0 into the lexicon. Same as it's always been. If your position has no basis in fairness, but you can't say that, blame racism. The progs here know that all the legislative efforts to loosen vote security are by design, to ensure Dems get elected. And if you complain about it, you must be a racist.
Republicans are going to have to figure out a way to win in this environment, and then when finally in power do not puss out, stand up to the charges of racism, and fix election laws state by state. See DeSantis, Ron, for ways to do that.
This but also.
It's obvious these people have no values or principles.
They don't care if they are hypocrites. They don't care if they are liars. They don't care if they've been proven wrong and given a [Citation]. They don't care if they apply moving standards and goalposts. They don't care if something is purely partisan. It's all just a means to an end for people who lack any internal morality.
They are partisans and appartchiks who have internalized the party propaganda as part of their identity. They are demoocrats.
@MelloDawg@HHusky@BearsWiin consistently demonstrate it by parroting the party line. All while maintaining a delusional sense of moral and intellectual superiority.
What is my party line? Pretty certain I haven’t declared a party.
I'm surprised any of you keep arguing with Team Prog over this. They will never change their minds. They WANT no chain of custody. They WANT opportunity for fraud. Just like they are trying to change election laws to lets felons and illegals vote, etc. They have no valid reasons for wanting less verification, thus security, in the system. And because their position is indefensible, I mean who could possibly be against one citizen one verifiable vote, they have forced Jim Crow 2.0 into the lexicon. Same as it's always been. If your position has no basis in fairness, but you can't say that, blame racism. The progs here know that all the legislative efforts to loosen vote security are by design, to ensure Dems get elected. And if you complain about it, you must be a racist.
Republicans are going to have to figure out a way to win in this environment, and then when finally in power do not puss out, stand up to the charges of racism, and fix election laws state by state. See DeSantis, Ron, for ways to do that.
This but also.
It's obvious these people have no values or principles.
They don't care if they are hypocrites. They don't care if they are liars. They don't care if they've been proven wrong and given a [Citation]. They don't care if they apply moving standards and goalposts. They don't care if something is purely partisan. It's all just a means to an end for people who lack any internal morality.
They are partisans and appartchiks who have internalized the party propaganda as part of their identity. They are demoocrats.
@MelloDawg@HHusky@BearsWiin consistently demonstrate it by parroting the party line. All while maintaining a delusional sense of moral and intellectual superiority.
What is my party line? Pretty certain I haven’t declared a party.
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How many weeks will pass without an answer from those of you who claim and believe all mail-in-voting elections are squeaky clean and were in 2020 and 2022?
Some may even accuse you of having double standards that don't apply equally.
Weird position for a "centrist".
'Cuz he was really curious.
It's obvious these people have no values or principles.
They don't care if they are hypocrites. They don't care if they are liars. They don't care if they've been proven wrong and given a [Citation]. They don't care if they apply moving standards and goalposts. They don't care if something is purely partisan. It's all just a means to an end for people who lack any internal morality.
They are partisans and appartchiks who have internalized the party propaganda as part of their identity. They are demoocrats.
@MelloDawg @HHusky @BearsWiin consistently demonstrate it by parroting the party line. All while maintaining a delusional sense of moral and intellectual superiority.
Nobody should be alone during the holidays.
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