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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,372 Founders Club
    Among many things... The day before the election, reportedly every printer was tested state wide and all systems were go. The next day, 48% of poll centers experienced printer problems that denied people the ability to receive a ballot.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Until the people actually care about cheating then nothing will happen. And right now people think "trumpism" is more dangerous than cheating so it's not gonna happen.

    Gotta move past trump asap
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,658
    edited November 2022
    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,677 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    In a situation where there is a complete lack of controls how do you know what is material and what is not?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    Election denier
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    It not a material difference until it is.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    “Minor glitch” on Election Day. Not meant to cause any disruption for the group known to vote on Election Day.

    Totally normal a tech “glitch” would happen just a day after testing. The knots leftists will tie themselves in to excuse their team cheating. Who runs the election in AZ?
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,677 Founders Club
    The 2016 election denial stuff is so weird to me. I haven't heard any issues with process, claims of fraud, etc. Just interference in messaging and advertising.

    2020 is worse just based on that same criteria alone.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,747 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2022
    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    When one realizes it was only around 40K votes in 5 states that stole the election for SloJoe in 2020 you'd realize how clueless you sound. SloJoe won Arizona by just over 10K. So look at the data next time.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,568 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    When one realizes it was only around 40K votes in 5 states that stole the election for SloJoe in 2020 you'd realize how clueless you sound. SloJoe won Arizona by just over 10K. So look at the data next time.
    The tell is that the dazzler and his fellow dems have no interest in cleaning up the election process so that these "questions" of illegal ballot stuffing are put to rest. Maricopa had two years to clean up their election process and didn't.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,747 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    When one realizes it was only around 40K votes in 5 states that stole the election for SloJoe in 2020 you'd realize how clueless you sound. SloJoe won Arizona by just over 10K. So look at the data next time.
    The tell is that the dazzler and his fellow dems have no interest in cleaning up the election process so that these "questions" of illegal ballot stuffing are put to rest. Maricopa had two years to clean up their election process and didn't.
    The real problem is that Dims dominate public employment at the city county/level and they run the elections. Built in cheaters.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,568 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    When one realizes it was only around 40K votes in 5 states that stole the election for SloJoe in 2020 you'd realize how clueless you sound. SloJoe won Arizona by just over 10K. So look at the data next time.
    The tell is that the dazzler and his fellow dems have no interest in cleaning up the election process so that these "questions" of illegal ballot stuffing are put to rest. Maricopa had two years to clean up their election process and didn't.
    The real problem is that Dims dominate public employment at the city county/level and they run the elections. Built in cheaters.
    That's why you to need to take that opportunity away at the state level, like DeSantis did in Florida.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,846
    46XiJCAB said:

    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    “Minor glitch” on Election Day. Not meant to cause any disruption for the group known to vote on Election Day.

    Totally normal a tech “glitch” would happen just a day after testing. The knots leftists will tie themselves in to excuse their team cheating. Who runs the election in AZ?
    Arizona elections are decentralized, but ok.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,568 Standard Supporter
    MelloDawg said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    “Minor glitch” on Election Day. Not meant to cause any disruption for the group known to vote on Election Day.

    Totally normal a tech “glitch” would happen just a day after testing. The knots leftists will tie themselves in to excuse their team cheating. Who runs the election in AZ?
    Arizona elections are decentralized, but ok.
    There is the tell. Mellow wants an honest election like he wants a closed border.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,747 Standard Supporter
    Box 3 — also called "Door 3" or "Slot 3" — is a separate box on the tabulators into which ballots not counted by the machines were placed for later tabulation. Maricopa County, however, has admitted that "in some voting locations, 'Door 3' non-tabulated ballots were commingled with tabulated ballots," according to a letter from the Arizona attorney general's office to the county.

    Nothing to see.

    https://justthenews.com/maricopa-county-follies-affidavits-detail-ballot-shenanigans-arizonas-largest-county
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,658

    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    Election denier
    "election denial," what election denial? The GOP won the House, but it is a tainted win, though, since the winning margin was about the same as the number of free seats gained through using illegally gerrymandered maps which (I think Kavanaugh) ruled permissible. SCOTUS ruled it allowable, so I accept the decision. Why that is, I don't understand since the maps were ruled illegal gerrymandering. If a judge rules illegal behavior legal what can I do?
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,613 Standard Supporter

    Until the people actually care about cheating then nothing will happen. And right now people think "trumpism" is more dangerous than cheating so it's not gonna happen.

    Gotta move past trump asap

    Fuck that. If you're triggered by Trump, that's too bad
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,870 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    Election denier
    "election denial," what election denial? The GOP won the House, but it is a tainted win, though, since the winning margin was about the same as the number of free seats gained through using illegally gerrymandered maps which (I think Kavanaugh) ruled permissible. SCOTUS ruled it allowable, so I accept the decision. Why that is, I don't understand since the maps were ruled illegal gerrymandering. If a judge rules illegal behavior legal what can I do?
    So you're an election denier

    Got it
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,677 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    Election denier
    "election denial," what election denial? The GOP won the House, but it is a tainted win, though, since the winning margin was about the same as the number of free seats gained through using illegally gerrymandered maps which (I think Kavanaugh) ruled permissible. SCOTUS ruled it allowable, so I accept the decision. Why that is, I don't understand since the maps were ruled illegal gerrymandering. If a judge rules illegal behavior legal what can I do?
    Popular vote for congress swung from +3% dems in 2020 to ~+3% republicans in 2022.

    Exactly the same % swing in seats held in congress.

    Fuck off with gerrymandering.
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,658
    Bob_C said:

    AOG said:

    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    Election denier
    "election denial," what election denial? The GOP won the House, but it is a tainted win, though, since the winning margin was about the same as the number of free seats gained through using illegally gerrymandered maps which (I think Kavanaugh) ruled permissible. SCOTUS ruled it allowable, so I accept the decision. Why that is, I don't understand since the maps were ruled illegal gerrymandering. If a judge rules illegal behavior legal what can I do?
    Popular vote for congress swung from +3% dems in 2020 to ~+3% republicans in 2022.

    Exactly the same % swing in seats held in congress.

    Fuck off with gerrymandering.
    source? I was told by an unimpeachable source that the popular vote totals were not ready yet
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    DIMS gerrymandered their little stooge Adam K. right out of a job. The one time I'm siding with DIMS.
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,658
    Actually, the difference may be due to the GOP running unopposed in a few districts
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Sledog said:

    Box 3 — also called "Door 3" or "Slot 3" — is a separate box on the tabulators into which ballots not counted by the machines were placed for later tabulation. Maricopa County, however, has admitted that "in some voting locations, 'Door 3' non-tabulated ballots were commingled with tabulated ballots," according to a letter from the Arizona attorney general's office to the county.

    Nothing to see.

    https://justthenews.com/maricopa-county-follies-affidavits-detail-ballot-shenanigans-arizonas-largest-county

    Just a perfectly honest mistake that can happen anywhere. Weird how things were not a "go" on election day and somehow this was the outcome. Totally random.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,677 Founders Club
    AOG said:

    Actually, the difference may be due to the GOP running unopposed in a few districts

    That isn’t a new phenomenon.
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,658
    Bob_C said:

    AOG said:

    Actually, the difference may be due to the GOP running unopposed in a few districts

    That isn’t a new phenomenon.
    I concede you bring up reasonable points i want to wait until I see the full analysis w/ the final numbers, then make a judgment about it.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    Some of the most ridiculously gerrymandered districts belong black Rat Party Congress members. Come out in opposition to those and you might have some credibility on the issue, until then fuck off.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    AOG said:

    The county said that about 17,000 Election Day ballots were involved and had to be counted later instead of at the polling place. Only 16% of the 1.56 million votes cast in Maricopa County were made in-person on Election Day. AP......

    I don't see anything that would make a material difference. It is just a ploy to try to make some minor glitch appear to be a scandal. The real problem is that the gop used illegally gerrymandered maps that were ruled illegal but that scotus allowed on the excuse that there was not enough time left to change prior to the election. That is the reason the gop won the House. Four states pulled that scam.

    Some of the most ridiculously gerrymandered districts belong black Rat Party Congress members. Come out in opposition to those and you might have some credibility on the issue, until then fuck off.
    Exactly, hell contra costa county used to be GOP leaning until they gerrymandered it.