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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,482 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    No need for internal controls according to our mythical MBA. Look at how well Enron and FTX and Maricopa County turned out. It's only fake money and votes


    Election ignoramus thinks elections are uncontrolled.
    When you "find" ballots, the elections are not controlled. When you can't audit ballot results and fight any investigation into the election process, the election is not controlled. Most US corporations are regulated and subjected to Sarbanes-Oxley internal controls. Those like Enron and FTX were not subject to rigorous internal controls and look what happened. I want honest elections with strict internal controls and segregation of duties with auditable results. You don't. Most elections in the US are honest. But way too many are not and those control the future of our country.
    Elections are audited.

    No matter how much you plug your ears and stomp your pretty little feet, they are audited.

    That's how they keep catching all those dumb mother fucking Republicans casting their dead relative's ballots.
    No they aren't.

    They are re-counted.

    A guy with an "MBA" should know what an audit entails.

    They are sometimes recounted as well.

    You must be the smartest kid in remedial civics!
    4 degrees and doesn't know the difference between a count and an audit and calls those who do stupid

    Long live the leftards
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,246 Founders Club
    The closest we got to a real audit was in Arizona. Only thing off limits were the machine passwords and an official canvassing of voters. Essentially all that matters.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,507 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    No need for internal controls according to our mythical MBA. Look at how well Enron and FTX and Maricopa County turned out. It's only fake money and votes


    Election ignoramus thinks elections are uncontrolled.
    When you "find" ballots, the elections are not controlled. When you can't audit ballot results and fight any investigation into the election process, the election is not controlled. Most US corporations are regulated and subjected to Sarbanes-Oxley internal controls. Those like Enron and FTX were not subject to rigorous internal controls and look what happened. I want honest elections with strict internal controls and segregation of duties with auditable results. You don't. Most elections in the US are honest. But way too many are not and those control the future of our country.
    Elections are audited.

    No matter how much you plug your ears and stomp your pretty little feet, they are audited.

    That's how they keep catching all those dumb mother fucking Republicans casting their dead relative's ballots.
    No they aren't.

    They are re-counted.

    A guy with an "MBA" should know what an audit entails.

    They are sometimes recounted as well.

    You must be the smartest kid in remedial civics!
    Civics has nothing to do with audits.

    Go ahead and add "audits" to your Russian state narrative homework.

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,903 Standard Supporter
    Bob_C said:

    The closest we got to a real audit was in Arizona. Only thing off limits were the machine passwords and an official canvassing of voters. Essentially all that matters.

    You would need a list of ballots returned before counting and logged in and secured with sign offs. You would need a list of the vote counts. They should match. No ballots counted which were not logged in at secure site at the close of the polls. No postmarks. County has to have the ballots. No signature dates after the election day. Makes it tough to find ballots. No ballot harvesting. Clean voter rolls. All opposed by our mythical MBA. End vote by push mail.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,334

    Bob_C said:

    The closest we got to a real audit was in Arizona. Only thing off limits were the machine passwords and an official canvassing of voters. Essentially all that matters.

    You would need a list of ballots returned before counting and logged in and secured with sign offs. You would need a list of the vote counts. They should match. No ballots counted which were not logged in at secure site at the close of the polls. No postmarks. County has to have the ballots. No signature dates after the election day. Makes it tough to find ballots. No ballot harvesting. Clean voter rolls. All opposed by our mythical MBA. End vote by push mail.
    Just string the outright lies and half-truths together and you have a Daddy voter.

    Well done, Gasbag!
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,574 Standard Supporter
    We know in many elections chain of custody requirements are regularly ignored completely in the case of Georgia. If you "find" ballots obviously the chain of custody was broken.
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,246 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    We know in many elections chain of custody requirements are regularly ignored completely in the case of Georgia. If you "find" ballots obviously the chain of custody was broken.

    Mail-in ballots aren't going anywhere. Easiest fix to give everyone their mail-in drug, is to stop using the mail, put scanners on drop boxes, scan in ID, then scan ballot, door opens. Post pickup audit that the counts match the scans and the scans match the underlying ballot. Creates an electronic chain of custody and a total ballot universe (with locations) and ensures no ballot harvesting.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    The closest we got to a real audit was in Arizona. Only thing off limits were the machine passwords and an official canvassing of voters. Essentially all that matters.

    You would need a list of ballots returned before counting and logged in and secured with sign offs. You would need a list of the vote counts. They should match. No ballots counted which were not logged in at secure site at the close of the polls. No postmarks. County has to have the ballots. No signature dates after the election day. Makes it tough to find ballots. No ballot harvesting. Clean voter rolls. All opposed by our mythical MBA. End vote by push mail.
    Just string the outright lies and half-truths together and you have a Daddy voter.

    Well done, Gasbag!
    Speaking of that, how did the whole voter suppressiony, Jim Crow thing go in Georgia? How fucking stupid was that?
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,903 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    The closest we got to a real audit was in Arizona. Only thing off limits were the machine passwords and an official canvassing of voters. Essentially all that matters.

    You would need a list of ballots returned before counting and logged in and secured with sign offs. You would need a list of the vote counts. They should match. No ballots counted which were not logged in at secure site at the close of the polls. No postmarks. County has to have the ballots. No signature dates after the election day. Makes it tough to find ballots. No ballot harvesting. Clean voter rolls. All opposed by our mythical MBA. End vote by push mail.
    Just string the outright lies and half-truths together and you have a Daddy voter.

    Well done, Gasbag!
    On cross exam, you would draw out the outright lies and half-truths. You suck at this.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    Bob_C said:

    The closest we got to a real audit was in Arizona. Only thing off limits were the machine passwords and an official canvassing of voters. Essentially all that matters.

    You would need a list of ballots returned before counting and logged in and secured with sign offs. You would need a list of the vote counts. They should match. No ballots counted which were not logged in at secure site at the close of the polls. No postmarks. County has to have the ballots. No signature dates after the election day. Makes it tough to find ballots. No ballot harvesting. Clean voter rolls. All opposed by our mythical MBA. End vote by push mail.
    Just string the outright lies and half-truths together and you have a Daddy voter.

    Well done, Gasbag!
    Speaking of that, how did the whole voter suppressiony, Jim Crow thing go in Georgia? How fucking stupid was that?
    It was Jim Crow 2.0. So not just Jim Crow. 2.0 is WAY worse. Biggest threat we face actually.