As of 10/23, who is the Pac-12 Offensive Player of the Year?

If Penix had put up 45 points against UCLA like Nix did UW would be 6-1, just like Oregon.

Savior QBs figure out how to make the team win.

Much in the same way people didn’t understand how good WE had it with a decade+ of RBs people didn’t understand just how bad the QB play has been and their views are warped.

Penix is about what sophomore Price was. Although I’ve been disappointed with his deep accuracy and limited running/scrambling ability.

Penix has benefited a lot from dominate pass blocking, some pretty good WRs, and an absolute dreckfest of opponents too.

Penix lost to DTR, he has to beat Nix to really be considered.

dtd said:

In 5 of the Ducks 7 games they had more points at halftime than their opponent scored the entire game.

Washington also tends to double their opponent's score at halftime, this just doesn't seem to stop them from almost losing anyway.

dnc said:

Canadawg said:

Saying "QB" lost to "team" is mouthbreather logic. Take it back to Twitter

Sometimes it is. When comparing the two games against UCLA specifically the biggest difference by far is Penix's two INTs to Nix's 0.

Nix is conference POY until he isn't.

There's no way something like this isn't going to be apples to oranges. There's a who should deserve an award like this then a who will get an award like this. Based off the latter, just hand the trophy to the QB of the winning team. It's both too early in the season for this conversation to happen and who cares anyway, but to address the specific point above, Bo Nix has been down in exactly two games this year. Right after getting down on both occasions, he threw an interception. When you feel like you have to play hero ball and score on every drive, sometimes a QB will panic and start throwing hero balls into triple coverage. Only against Georgia and possibly Cuog has Nix been under the pressure to score that Penix has been under on just about every single drive. Interesting that they've scored TDs on opening drives at a pretty insane clip, when there's no pressure to do so. Apples to Oranges.

That being said, Penix has warts that people ignore because the offense has been effective anyway (against mostly dreck defenses). He completes a lot of passes, but 90% of his throws are just a little off. The kind of throws where even though it's a completion for a first down, it might have gone for another 10 yards if it hit the front shoulder. That sort of thing. He's an excellent college QB that could be great if he were just slightly more accurate. He also tends to lock onto a receiver based off the pre-snap read. Defenses that shift coverage prior to the snap like UCLA and ASU did have caused problems for him.

I haven't watched Nix once this year, so no idea how that compares. Considering the point that Oregon has taken the foot off the gas in most games, had to play Georgia, Washington is the new WSU, yadda yadda yadda, they have similar numbers and play in very different offenses and with very different pressure put on them by their respective defenses.

So who cares.

Kingdome_Urinals said:

TheHB said:

Gave it to the duck because of his ability to run and make things happen. Penix is having a killer year, but without the protection he’s received, not sure he’d be able to improvise like Nix has so far.

Nix is nowhere near the passer that Penix is.

Nix has had a couple good games but I don't think his scrambling completely offsets Penix's superiority and consistency as a passer.

If Penix is QB at Oregon they don't get raped by Georgia and are probably a better team overall.

Lol.