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ARTIMUS PYLE INTERVIEW - 24 October 1977 (4 Days After The Plane Crash)
DerekJohnson
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Thud
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Thanks Taft!
The Netflix documentary on Skynard was good. -
i didn't know there was one. thank you I will check it outCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Thanks Taft!
The Netflix documentary on Skynard was good. -
The Convair CV-240 went thud? Dark shit, man.MikeDamone said:Thud
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Stalin, have a listen to the last track on A Southern Rock Opera by The Drive By Truckers.
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I think it’s called if tomorrow never comes. Netflix also has a good ZZ Top documentary. I started watching the CCR documentary but fell asleep.DerekJohnson said:
i didn't know there was one. thank you I will check it outCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Thanks Taft!
The Netflix documentary on Skynard was good. -
Oh yes I posted about the ZZ Top documentary a year or two ago.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
I think it’s called if tomorrow never comes. Netflix also has a good ZZ Top documentary. I started watching the CCR documentary but fell asleep.DerekJohnson said:
i didn't know there was one. thank you I will check it outCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Thanks Taft!
The Netflix documentary on Skynard was good. -
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They said that album came out about four days before the crash. The record company quickly redid the cover to remove the flames.YellowSnow said:
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I watched it, it was great.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
I think it’s called if tomorrow never comes. Netflix also has a good ZZ Top documentary. I started watching the CCR documentary but fell asleep.DerekJohnson said:
i didn't know there was one. thank you I will check it outCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Thanks Taft!
The Netflix documentary on Skynard was good. -
Correct.DerekJohnson said:
They said that album came out about four days before the crash. The record company quickly redid the cover to remove the flames.YellowSnow said:
I always wonder how it would have played out for Skynyrd if the crash had not occurred. The first 2 albums are all timers, but the last three were all somewhat mediocre. Two or three greats tacks on each combined with some filler. They seemed to be trending downward. -
To my ears, they had two great songs and three good songs. The rest were mehYellowSnow said:
Correct.DerekJohnson said:
They said that album came out about four days before the crash. The record company quickly redid the cover to remove the flames.YellowSnow said:
I always wonder how it would have played out for Skynyrd if the crash had not occurred. The first 2 albums are all timers, but the last three were all somewhat mediocre. Two or three greats tacks on each combined with some filler. They seemed to be trending downward. -
Pup was the inspiration for That Smell
From his incoherent posts formulated on Ludes to the prescient prediction "tomorrow might not be there for you (Pup)"
Pup in flames was on the original Street Surviors album cover but after the plane crash, Mods influenced record stores to pull the album with Pup for sale and new covers, sans Pup, were quickly substituted.
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There's too much coke and too many poundingsBaseman said:Pup was the inspiration for That Smell
From his incoherent posts formulated on Ludes to the prescient prediction "tomorrow might not be there for you (Pup)"
Pup in flames was on the original Street Surviors album cover but after the plane crash, Mods influenced record stores to pull the album with Pup for sale and new covers, sans Pup, were quickly substituted. -
I looked up the band members who survived the plane crash. 1-2 were dead around 50. Hard living catches up to you. There’s still a Skynard band in name out there but Ronnie was the most important member and without him, who cares?YellowSnow said:
Correct.DerekJohnson said:
They said that album came out about four days before the crash. The record company quickly redid the cover to remove the flames.YellowSnow said:
I always wonder how it would have played out for Skynyrd if the crash had not occurred. The first 2 albums are all timers, but the last three were all somewhat mediocre. Two or three greats tacks on each combined with some filler. They seemed to be trending downward. -
I never paid any attention to the Johnny Van Zandt let LS tribute band. The band died in the plane crash.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
I looked up the band members who survived the plane crash. 1-2 were dead around 50. Hard living catches up to you. There’s still a Skynard band in name out there but Ronnie was the most important member and without him, who cares?YellowSnow said:
Correct.DerekJohnson said:
They said that album came out about four days before the crash. The record company quickly redid the cover to remove the flames.YellowSnow said:
I always wonder how it would have played out for Skynyrd if the crash had not occurred. The first 2 albums are all timers, but the last three were all somewhat mediocre. Two or three greats tacks on each combined with some filler. They seemed to be trending downward.
My best guest is that they fade away Allman Brothers style- i.e., no longer artistically relevant post the 70s, but continue to be a popular concert draw. -
In retrospect, this has been my take as well. 76 was their high water mark for me, and that was when I started to get into them. That was when the live album came out (which still stands up today big time), and when they blew the Stones away at Knebworth. IMO, the last few albums were over-produced. It took the rawness out, which is what made them, for me.YellowSnow said:
Correct.DerekJohnson said:
They said that album came out about four days before the crash. The record company quickly redid the cover to remove the flames.YellowSnow said:
I always wonder how it would have played out for Skynyrd if the crash had not occurred. The first 2 albums are all timers, but the last three were all somewhat mediocre. Two or three greats tacks on each combined with some filler. They seemed to be trending downward.
From many accounts, Ronnie was getting his shit together, and working on the rest of them to do the same.
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I read that Ronnie's daughter died a few years ago from cancer in her 30s.Fishpo31 said:
In retrospect, this has been my take as well. 76 was their high water mark for me, and that was when I started to get into them. That was when the live album came out (which still stands up today big time), and when they blew the Stones away at Knebworth. IMO, the last few albums were over-produced. It took the rawness out, which is what made them, for me.YellowSnow said:
Correct.DerekJohnson said:
They said that album came out about four days before the crash. The record company quickly redid the cover to remove the flames.YellowSnow said:
I always wonder how it would have played out for Skynyrd if the crash had not occurred. The first 2 albums are all timers, but the last three were all somewhat mediocre. Two or three greats tacks on each combined with some filler. They seemed to be trending downward.
From many accounts, Ronnie was getting his shit together, and working on the rest of them to do the same. -
Just listened to it. This is good 2AM heroin music, as you once said about me listening to Charlie Parker's "My Old Flame"YellowSnow said:Stalin, have a listen to the last track on A Southern Rock Opera by The Drive By Truckers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beVfVbX2aZw -
The Stones were never on the Mt Rushmore of live bands. I would have rather seen Skynyrd live in '76 than the Stones in the same time period.Fishpo31 said:
In retrospect, this has been my take as well. 76 was their high water mark for me, and that was when I started to get into them. That was when the live album came out (which still stands up today big time), and when they blew the Stones away at Knebworth. IMO, the last few albums were over-produced. It took the rawness out, which is what made them, for me.YellowSnow said:
Correct.DerekJohnson said:
They said that album came out about four days before the crash. The record company quickly redid the cover to remove the flames.YellowSnow said:
I always wonder how it would have played out for Skynyrd if the crash had not occurred. The first 2 albums are all timers, but the last three were all somewhat mediocre. Two or three greats tacks on each combined with some filler. They seemed to be trending downward.
From many accounts, Ronnie was getting his shit together, and working on the rest of them to do the same. -
Point taken, my reference was more that the "up and comer" upstaged the "established act", albeit an act that was morphing into its third version, weighted down by dope, booze and fame, and about to be crowned "The World's Greatest Rock and Roll Band"...Skynyrd was established, but not on the same level as the Stones, IMO...YellowSnow said:
The Stones were never on the Mt Rushmore of live bands. I would have rather seen Skynyrd live in '76 than the Stones in the same time period.Fishpo31 said:
In retrospect, this has been my take as well. 76 was their high water mark for me, and that was when I started to get into them. That was when the live album came out (which still stands up today big time), and when they blew the Stones away at Knebworth. IMO, the last few albums were over-produced. It took the rawness out, which is what made them, for me.YellowSnow said:
Correct.DerekJohnson said:
They said that album came out about four days before the crash. The record company quickly redid the cover to remove the flames.YellowSnow said:
I always wonder how it would have played out for Skynyrd if the crash had not occurred. The first 2 albums are all timers, but the last three were all somewhat mediocre. Two or three greats tacks on each combined with some filler. They seemed to be trending downward.
From many accounts, Ronnie was getting his shit together, and working on the rest of them to do the same.
