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Kim does it again

Kim's "Pete is blowing the team up to rebuild it the way he wants it" comment has caused another firestorm panic attack by idiots who believe what he says. The pitchforks are out again with cries of "I don't want 3 more rebuilding years" and "why can't he just work with the players we already have".

Put out the Dickus signal

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  • PurpleReign
    PurpleReign Member Posts: 5,479
    I think I peed a little.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,845
    I don't even care if he DOES blow it up ad start over, as clearly Sark's philosophy of roster building and personnel decisions didn't work. I'm fine with 3 years of 8-9 wins before blowing up as the foundation Petersen builds will be sturdier than anything Sark would have built as the bottom fell out from under him every single year
  • Fenwick
    Fenwick Member Posts: 1,174
    Mello, your post makes sense. Petersen is undoing much of what Sarkisian did. Nothing else he can do. His system is different. Gotta be tough on players having a new coach no matter the team. Sure will be interesting to see what Coach P does with what he has the next three years.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,845
    The doogs who think there's a seamless transition presume that the talent level is the same, we didn't lose anything, and that Sark left a dynamic and depth-filled roster when he left. The roster is fine, but going 8-5 is fine in Year 1. Not ideal, but fine as long as penalties are down and discipline is up,
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    So are the same folks going to blame Sark for the dreckfest OL we'll probably roll out next year because Sark didn't believe in recruiting OL? Don't remember Peterman running off any legit OL...or is Stringfellow now a future 1st round OT as well
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990

    So are the same folks going to blame Sark for the dreckfest OL we'll probably roll out next year because Sark didn't believe in recruiting OL? Don't remember Peterman running off any legit OL...or is Stringfellow now a future 1st round OT as well

    No, Petersen hasn't run off any OL but Kohler retired and Hindy left the program.

    Our OL next year should be somewhat decent. We should return Tanigawa for a 6th year since he missed 2012 due to an ACL tear (Hi Ivan!). That'd give us 2 of our starting OL back (Charles and Tanigawa), while plugging in Eldrenkamp, Coleman Shelton, and Tufunga at LT, RT and RG. It'd be a senior laden OL with Charles, Tanigawa, and Tufunga being SRs, but we'd return Eldrenkamp and Shelton for 2016.
  • Meek
    Meek Member Posts: 7,031
    people, stop talking and typing... that Bat Signal image means we can't read this thread anymore. LOL
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    In regards to rebuilding or transitioning, it will be complete at the end of next season. Year 3 is usually the telling year or the first three years are. Next year w/o OL experience and losing Shelton, Peters & Kikaha will make it somewhat of a rebuilding year. Year 3 you will still have Cyler, both backs, Ross, Daniels at TE plus the current fresh/sophs on D who we've already talked about quite a bit. The challenge will be rebuilding the OL.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,251 Founders Club

    So are the same folks going to blame Sark for the dreckfest OL we'll probably roll out next year because Sark didn't believe in recruiting OL? Don't remember Peterman running off any legit OL...or is Stringfellow now a future 1st round OT as well

    No, Petersen hasn't run off any OL but Kohler retired and Hindy left the program.

    Our OL next year should be somewhat decent. We should return Tanigawa for a 6th year since he missed 2012 due to an ACL tear (Hi Ivan!). That'd give us 2 of our starting OL back (Charles and Tanigawa), while plugging in Eldrenkamp, Coleman Shelton, and Tufunga at LT, RT and RG. It'd be a senior laden OL with Charles, Tanigawa, and Tufunga being SRs, but we'd return Eldrenkamp and Shelton for 2016.
    I wouldn't count on that. It seems like guys who get a 6th year are those that typically miss more than 1 year due to injury.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,999
    edited September 2014

    So are the same folks going to blame Sark for the dreckfest OL we'll probably roll out next year because Sark didn't believe in recruiting OL? Don't remember Peterman running off any legit OL...or is Stringfellow now a future 1st round OT as well

    No, Petersen hasn't run off any OL but Kohler retired and Hindy left the program.

    Our OL next year should be somewhat decent. We should return Tanigawa for a 6th year since he missed 2012 due to an ACL tear (Hi Ivan!). That'd give us 2 of our starting OL back (Charles and Tanigawa), while plugging in Eldrenkamp, Coleman Shelton, and Tufunga at LT, RT and RG. It'd be a senior laden OL with Charles, Tanigawa, and Tufunga being SRs, but we'd return Eldrenkamp and Shelton for 2016.
    I wouldn't count on that. It seems like guys who get a 6th year are those that typically miss more than 1 year due to injury.
    Yup, and look at that line (and depth) if/when there is no Tanigawa next year.

    If only Peterman hadn't run off Hindy...
  • UWerentThereMan
    UWerentThereMan Member Posts: 3,475
    Where is ISIS when you need them?
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
    This is a candidate for the classics bored. Well, the dong signal is.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
    Jim Owens was 3-7 his first year
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    Peter gets 5 years. I said 8-5 this year should be expected and every fuck here shit themselves, sayng 11 wins is expected.. How quickly things change.

    Fuck its one game. Peter and this team will be fine.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990

    I wouldn't count on that. It seems like guys who get a 6th year are those that typically miss more than 1 year due to injury.

    Tanigawa had season ending knee injuries in 2011 and 2012.

    The 2012 one qualifies under the NCAA hardship waiver (medical redshirt).

    Guess we'll find out.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,386
    Looks like we have some art aficionados around here

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    Under great coaches (and I believe CP is a great coach) and as Don James said, teams improve the most between Week 1 and Week 2. Now CP and staff get back their #1 QB and they have another week to work with a young secondary. I wish KW was 100%, that we were better at RG, and that Riva was back at RT but at least we didn't have any sloppy turnovers or special teams melt-downs. We also had 4 sacks on D and Lavon Coleman seems to be a revelation.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Peter gets 5 years. I said 8-5 this year should be expected and every fuck here shit themselves, sayng 11 wins is expected.. How quickly things change.

    Fuck its one game. Peter and this team will be fine.

    Bump
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    Saban, Holtz, Stoops, and even douchebags like Chimp and Petrino turned pretty average programs into big winners fast ( Oregon won 10 games or something the year before but they had some 5-8 win years from 2002-2007). The talent is there. its not top five SEC SEC SEC talent, but it is top 20. There's always going to be some attrition, but there would be attrition regardless. He gets paid three and a half million dollars to change the culture and be effective relatively fast. The coaches mentioned all did it pretty fast.

    He doesn't need to go at 12 and one and make the playoffs by next yr., but if they're 9-5 with a relatively easy schedule, then 7-6 again, then 8-5, that's just treading water. Luckily I see him doing better than that. There's not a magic winning percentage, or goal or bowl, other than the Rose Bowl IMO. It's improvement, beating Oregon, doing better than 5-4 yearly, taking back the Pacific Northwest which is rightfully UW'S and being in the top three or four in the conference on a consistent basis, & Yes Rose Bowl relatively quickly... been way too long....

    That was true until your administration gave Ty his 4th year. Until you signed Petersen, from Ty's 4th year on, your city deserved the Bills, well........the twelves still do, but you get my point.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Saban, Holtz, Stoops, and even douchebags like Chimp and Petrino turned pretty average programs into big winners fast ( Oregon won 10 games or something the year before but they had some 5-8 win years from 2002-2007). The talent is there. its not top five SEC SEC SEC talent, but it is top 20. There's always going to be some attrition, but there would be attrition regardless. He gets paid three and a half million dollars to change the culture and be effective relatively fast. The coaches mentioned all did it pretty fast.

    He doesn't need to go at 12 and one and make the playoffs by next yr., but if they're 9-5 with a relatively easy schedule, then 7-6 again, then 8-5, that's just treading water. Luckily I see him doing better than that. There's not a magic winning percentage, or goal or bowl, other than the Rose Bowl IMO. It's improvement, beating Oregon, doing better than 5-4 yearly, taking back the Pacific Northwest which is rightfully UW'S and being in the top three or four in the conference on a consistent basis, & Yes Rose Bowl relatively quickly... been way too long....

    That was true until your administration gave Ty his first year. Until you signed Petersen, from Ty's 4th year on, your city deserved the Bills, well........the twelves still do, but you get my point.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited September 2014

    Saban, Holtz, Stoops, and even douchebags like Chimp and Petrino turned pretty average programs into big winners fast ( Oregon won 10 games or something the year before but they had some 5-8 win years from 2002-2007). The talent is there. its not top five SEC SEC SEC talent, but it is top 20. There's always going to be some attrition, but there would be attrition regardless. He gets paid three and a half million dollars to change the culture and be effective relatively fast. The coaches mentioned all did it pretty fast.

    He doesn't need to go at 12 and one and make the playoffs by next yr., but if they're 9-5 with a relatively easy schedule, then 7-6 again, then 8-5, that's just treading water. Luckily I see him doing better than that. There's not a magic winning percentage, or goal or bowl, other than the Rose Bowl IMO. It's improvement, beating Oregon, doing better than 5-4 yearly, taking back the Pacific Northwest which is rightfully UW'S and being in the top three or four in the conference on a consistent basis, & Yes Rose Bowl relatively quickly... been way too long....

    Fuck that, we have the Nike sweatshop money. Nothing is rightfully anybody's. That's doog thinking, like Aubbie's FS "iron laws."