Maximum Carnage Week Game Thread

Why is it that the Israeli's - population 8.7 million or 2.6% of the US population and expends a small fraction of the CDC and US medical bureaucracy budget - can do basic scientific studies which come to a non-controversial conclusion and then have it ignored by the CDC, Fow Chee, the American medical bureaucracy and US politicians. You would think they would be embarrassed, but they aren't. Dazzler like. Like St. George, not someone I would want to emulate.

https://ace.mu.nu/

Now That the Pandemic Is Over, The CDC Admits That Natural Immunity Exists And Protects Against Covid
—Ace
Oh really? Previous exposure to a virus protects from future infection from that virus?

What strange new science is this?

In August 2021 Science Magazine, a peer-reviewed academic journal of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, highlighted groundbreaking research out of Israel that upended the public health establishment.
This is from the Foundation for Economic Education. I'm not sure if they're on the level here, or if this is sarcastic.

Of course previous infection protects against future infection.

It was bizarre that the CDC spent so long vigorously denying this, or pretending ignorance of it.

The research, which relied on a database enrolling some 2.5 million Israelis and was led by Tal Patalon, head of the KSM Research and Innovation Center at Maccabi Healthcare Services, and deputy Sivan Gazit, found that previous infection from Covid-19 conferred considerably stronger and longer-lasting protection against the Delta variant than vaccines.
"The newly released data show people who once had a SARS-CoV-2 infection were much less likely than never-infected, vaccinated people to get Delta, develop symptoms from it, or become hospitalized with serious COVID-19," Science staff writer Meredith Wadman noted.

Wadman also noted that the research showed that "never-infected people who were vaccinated in January and February were, in June, July, and the first half of August, six to 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people" who had previously had Covid.

"It's a textbook example of how natural immunity is really better than vaccination," Charlotte Th�lin, a physician and immunology researcher at Danderyd Hospital and the Karolinska Institute, told Science.
These findings should have caused the CDC to change its vaccination "guidance."

But, of course: They did not.

Governments, national, state, and local, continued to coerce people into getting vaccinated, even if they had prior covid exposure (and could prove it).

The "scientific" authorities continued denying that prior infection by a disease provided any defense against future infection, in order to provide the pretext for these blanket mandates.

Only now is the CDC finally acknowledging what was known a year ago.

And which should have been strongly suspected, even absent the Israeli study, because most viruses provide protection against future exposure, once you've been exposed.

Nine months later, the CDC is singing a very different tune.
Upon releasing new pandemic guidelines last week, CDC epidemiologist Greta Massetti explained to reporters what many have been saying for more than a year: both vaccines and prior infection offer protection from severe symptomatic Covid.

"Both prior infection and vaccination confer some protection against severe illness," Massetti told reporters. "And so it really makes the most sense to not differentiate with our guidance or our recommendations based on vaccination status at this time."

...

We should be grateful that the CDC's policies have finally caught up to the science, and that state epidemiologists are now recognizing the basic "textbook" science of natural immunity.

However, the change also invites questions, the most important one being, Why did it take so long?

WestlinnDuck said:

Why is it that the Israeli's - population 8.7 million or 2.6% of the US population and expends a small fraction of the CDC and US medical bureaucracy budget - can do basic scientific studies which come to a non-controversial conclusion and then have it ignored by the CDC, Fow Chee, the American medical bureaucracy and US politicians. You would think they would be embarrassed, but they aren't. Dazzler like. Like St. George, not someone I would want to emulate.

https://ace.mu.nu/

Now That the Pandemic Is Over, The CDC Admits That Natural Immunity Exists And Protects Against Covid
—Ace
Oh really? Previous exposure to a virus protects from future infection from that virus?

What strange new science is this?

In August 2021 Science Magazine, a peer-reviewed academic journal of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, highlighted groundbreaking research out of Israel that upended the public health establishment.
This is from the Foundation for Economic Education. I'm not sure if they're on the level here, or if this is sarcastic.

Of course previous infection protects against future infection.

It was bizarre that the CDC spent so long vigorously denying this, or pretending ignorance of it.

The research, which relied on a database enrolling some 2.5 million Israelis and was led by Tal Patalon, head of the KSM Research and Innovation Center at Maccabi Healthcare Services, and deputy Sivan Gazit, found that previous infection from Covid-19 conferred considerably stronger and longer-lasting protection against the Delta variant than vaccines.
"The newly released data show people who once had a SARS-CoV-2 infection were much less likely than never-infected, vaccinated people to get Delta, develop symptoms from it, or become hospitalized with serious COVID-19," Science staff writer Meredith Wadman noted.

Wadman also noted that the research showed that "never-infected people who were vaccinated in January and February were, in June, July, and the first half of August, six to 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people" who had previously had Covid.

"It's a textbook example of how natural immunity is really better than vaccination," Charlotte Th�lin, a physician and immunology researcher at Danderyd Hospital and the Karolinska Institute, told Science.
These findings should have caused the CDC to change its vaccination "guidance."

But, of course: They did not.

Governments, national, state, and local, continued to coerce people into getting vaccinated, even if they had prior covid exposure (and could prove it).

The "scientific" authorities continued denying that prior infection by a disease provided any defense against future infection, in order to provide the pretext for these blanket mandates.

Only now is the CDC finally acknowledging what was known a year ago.

And which should have been strongly suspected, even absent the Israeli study, because most viruses provide protection against future exposure, once you've been exposed.

Nine months later, the CDC is singing a very different tune.
Upon releasing new pandemic guidelines last week, CDC epidemiologist Greta Massetti explained to reporters what many have been saying for more than a year: both vaccines and prior infection offer protection from severe symptomatic Covid.

"Both prior infection and vaccination confer some protection against severe illness," Massetti told reporters. "And so it really makes the most sense to not differentiate with our guidance or our recommendations based on vaccination status at this time."

...

We should be grateful that the CDC's policies have finally caught up to the science, and that state epidemiologists are now recognizing the basic "textbook" science of natural immunity.

However, the change also invites questions, the most important one being, Why did it take so long?

Big pharma suppressed it and they own most media, doctors, and big tech is full of scared SJW retards who are desperate for a magical shot to cure everything, while ignoring basic health needs.

LebamDawg said:

Bob_C said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

https://twitter.com/politicalmath/status/1562889684954492929

https://twitter.com/politicalmath/status/1562891198276472835

https://twitter.com/politicalmath/status/1562892005318856704

https://twitter.com/politicalmath/status/1562894574028173313

Been saying this for over a year. You can isolate FL and CA in a vacuum and make a generic claim that vaccines, masks were the difference. But then what explains TX vs CA or UT vs WA?

The correct answer is there is no answer, and that's why any sort of mitigation/mandate policy was fucking stupid.

without attempting to look at the figures - it is obvious that brown, black and as "they" call them BIPOCs in the high death rate states make up the majority of the deaths. So racism.

BIPOCs have lower Vitamin D levels than white people. Remember the CDC recommending to coloreds to take Vitamin D? Nope, it was get the chicom crud and then take some Tylenol until you need a ventilator.

That's why they call it the death jab.