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Why is it that the Israeli's - population 8.7 million or 2.6% of the US population and expends a small fraction of the CDC and US medical bureaucracy budget - can do basic scientific studies which come to a non-controversial conclusion and then have it ignored by the CDC, Fow Chee, the American medical bureaucracy and US politicians. You would think they would be embarrassed, but they aren't. Dazzler like. Like St. George, not someone I would want to emulate.
https://ace.mu.nu/
Now That the Pandemic Is Over, The CDC Admits That Natural Immunity Exists And Protects Against Covid
—Ace
Oh really? Previous exposure to a virus protects from future infection from that virus?
What strange new science is this?
In August 2021 Science Magazine, a peer-reviewed academic journal of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, highlighted groundbreaking research out of Israel that upended the public health establishment.
This is from the Foundation for Economic Education. I'm not sure if they're on the level here, or if this is sarcastic.
Of course previous infection protects against future infection.
It was bizarre that the CDC spent so long vigorously denying this, or pretending ignorance of it.
The research, which relied on a database enrolling some 2.5 million Israelis and was led by Tal Patalon, head of the KSM Research and Innovation Center at Maccabi Healthcare Services, and deputy Sivan Gazit, found that previous infection from Covid-19 conferred considerably stronger and longer-lasting protection against the Delta variant than vaccines.
"The newly released data show people who once had a SARS-CoV-2 infection were much less likely than never-infected, vaccinated people to get Delta, develop symptoms from it, or become hospitalized with serious COVID-19," Science staff writer Meredith Wadman noted.
Wadman also noted that the research showed that "never-infected people who were vaccinated in January and February were, in June, July, and the first half of August, six to 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people" who had previously had Covid.
"It's a textbook example of how natural immunity is really better than vaccination," Charlotte Th�lin, a physician and immunology researcher at Danderyd Hospital and the Karolinska Institute, told Science.
These findings should have caused the CDC to change its vaccination "guidance."
But, of course: They did not.
Governments, national, state, and local, continued to coerce people into getting vaccinated, even if they had prior covid exposure (and could prove it).
The "scientific" authorities continued denying that prior infection by a disease provided any defense against future infection, in order to provide the pretext for these blanket mandates.
Only now is the CDC finally acknowledging what was known a year ago.
And which should have been strongly suspected, even absent the Israeli study, because most viruses provide protection against future exposure, once you've been exposed.
Nine months later, the CDC is singing a very different tune.
Upon releasing new pandemic guidelines last week, CDC epidemiologist Greta Massetti explained to reporters what many have been saying for more than a year: both vaccines and prior infection offer protection from severe symptomatic Covid.
"Both prior infection and vaccination confer some protection against severe illness," Massetti told reporters. "And so it really makes the most sense to not differentiate with our guidance or our recommendations based on vaccination status at this time."
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We should be grateful that the CDC's policies have finally caught up to the science, and that state epidemiologists are now recognizing the basic "textbook" science of natural immunity.
However, the change also invites questions, the most important one being, Why did it take so long? -
Big pharma suppressed it and they own most media, doctors, and big tech is full of scared SJW retards who are desperate for a magical shot to cure everything, while ignoring basic health needs.WestlinnDuck said:Why is it that the Israeli's - population 8.7 million or 2.6% of the US population and expends a small fraction of the CDC and US medical bureaucracy budget - can do basic scientific studies which come to a non-controversial conclusion and then have it ignored by the CDC, Fow Chee, the American medical bureaucracy and US politicians. You would think they would be embarrassed, but they aren't. Dazzler like. Like St. George, not someone I would want to emulate.
https://ace.mu.nu/
Now That the Pandemic Is Over, The CDC Admits That Natural Immunity Exists And Protects Against Covid
—Ace
Oh really? Previous exposure to a virus protects from future infection from that virus?
What strange new science is this?
In August 2021 Science Magazine, a peer-reviewed academic journal of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, highlighted groundbreaking research out of Israel that upended the public health establishment.
This is from the Foundation for Economic Education. I'm not sure if they're on the level here, or if this is sarcastic.
Of course previous infection protects against future infection.
It was bizarre that the CDC spent so long vigorously denying this, or pretending ignorance of it.
The research, which relied on a database enrolling some 2.5 million Israelis and was led by Tal Patalon, head of the KSM Research and Innovation Center at Maccabi Healthcare Services, and deputy Sivan Gazit, found that previous infection from Covid-19 conferred considerably stronger and longer-lasting protection against the Delta variant than vaccines.
"The newly released data show people who once had a SARS-CoV-2 infection were much less likely than never-infected, vaccinated people to get Delta, develop symptoms from it, or become hospitalized with serious COVID-19," Science staff writer Meredith Wadman noted.
Wadman also noted that the research showed that "never-infected people who were vaccinated in January and February were, in June, July, and the first half of August, six to 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people" who had previously had Covid.
"It's a textbook example of how natural immunity is really better than vaccination," Charlotte Th�lin, a physician and immunology researcher at Danderyd Hospital and the Karolinska Institute, told Science.
These findings should have caused the CDC to change its vaccination "guidance."
But, of course: They did not.
Governments, national, state, and local, continued to coerce people into getting vaccinated, even if they had prior covid exposure (and could prove it).
The "scientific" authorities continued denying that prior infection by a disease provided any defense against future infection, in order to provide the pretext for these blanket mandates.
Only now is the CDC finally acknowledging what was known a year ago.
And which should have been strongly suspected, even absent the Israeli study, because most viruses provide protection against future exposure, once you've been exposed.
Nine months later, the CDC is singing a very different tune.
Upon releasing new pandemic guidelines last week, CDC epidemiologist Greta Massetti explained to reporters what many have been saying for more than a year: both vaccines and prior infection offer protection from severe symptomatic Covid.
"Both prior infection and vaccination confer some protection against severe illness," Massetti told reporters. "And so it really makes the most sense to not differentiate with our guidance or our recommendations based on vaccination status at this time."
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We should be grateful that the CDC's policies have finally caught up to the science, and that state epidemiologists are now recognizing the basic "textbook" science of natural immunity.
However, the change also invites questions, the most important one being, Why did it take so long? -
Thats why like to say horse manure rather than horse shit. Shit is so negative and gross. Manure just rolls off the tongue. Man-Newer. See? It's nice.RaceBannon said:
But rebound positivity sounds harmlessUW_Doog_Bot said:
Know 3 people this month with rebound cases worse than any covid I've had.RaceBannon said:"rebound positivity"
Riiight
It's a rebound but its positive
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Been saying this for over a year. You can isolate FL and CA in a vacuum and make a generic claim that vaccines, masks were the difference. But then what explains TX vs CA or UT vs WA?GrundleStiltzkin said:
The correct answer is there is no answer, and that's why any sort of mitigation/mandate policy was fucking stupid. -
Bob_C said:
Been saying this for over a year. You can isolate FL and CA in a vacuum and make a generic claim that vaccines, masks were the difference. But then what explains TX vs CA or UT vs WA?GrundleStiltzkin said:
The correct answer is there is no answer, and that's why any sort of mitigation/mandate policy was fucking stupid.
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My 4 year old deleted all my photos on my phone a couple of weeks ago. Had to get on phone with Apple cloud to recover them. Was stressing out that I'd lose my Daddy's vaccine screenshot photo.hardhat said:Bob_C said:
Been saying this for over a year. You can isolate FL and CA in a vacuum and make a generic claim that vaccines, masks were the difference. But then what explains TX vs CA or UT vs WA?GrundleStiltzkin said:
The correct answer is there is no answer, and that's why any sort of mitigation/mandate policy was fucking stupid. -
without attempting to look at the figures - it is obvious that brown, black and as "they" call them BIPOCs in the high death rate states make up the majority of the deaths. So racism.Bob_C said:
Been saying this for over a year. You can isolate FL and CA in a vacuum and make a generic claim that vaccines, masks were the difference. But then what explains TX vs CA or UT vs WA?GrundleStiltzkin said:
The correct answer is there is no answer, and that's why any sort of mitigation/mandate policy was fucking stupid. -
But I keep hearing that desantis will lose Florida because all the deaths were republicansLebamDawg said:
without attempting to look at the figures - it is obvious that brown, black and as "they" call them BIPOCs in the high death rate states make up the majority of the deaths. So racism.Bob_C said:
Been saying this for over a year. You can isolate FL and CA in a vacuum and make a generic claim that vaccines, masks were the difference. But then what explains TX vs CA or UT vs WA?GrundleStiltzkin said:
The correct answer is there is no answer, and that's why any sort of mitigation/mandate policy was fucking stupid. -
BIPOCs have lower Vitamin D levels than white people. Remember the CDC recommending to coloreds to take Vitamin D? Nope, it was get the chicom crud and then take some Tylenol until you need a ventilator.LebamDawg said:
without attempting to look at the figures - it is obvious that brown, black and as "they" call them BIPOCs in the high death rate states make up the majority of the deaths. So racism.Bob_C said:
Been saying this for over a year. You can isolate FL and CA in a vacuum and make a generic claim that vaccines, masks were the difference. But then what explains TX vs CA or UT vs WA?GrundleStiltzkin said:
The correct answer is there is no answer, and that's why any sort of mitigation/mandate policy was fucking stupid. -
So essentially the fags nobody wants to play with?Bob_C said:
When my course reopened in May 2020 and we were restricted to 2 somes, we had members ratting out groups that merged into 4somes out on the course.hardhat said:
Inslee still has emergency powers.Bob_C said:
I’m still convinced that Inslee shut down golf courses because Trump likes to golf.WestlinnDuck said:
Who did Trump lockdown? In Oregon, anything that was locked down was because of Kate Brown's illegal executive order. Wasn't Trump that dumped sawdust of the local school tennis court.LoneStarDawg said: -
Can't chin enough. Liberalism is a fucking mental disorder.WestlinnDuck said:
But just think about how many lives those foam inserts and no rakes in the sand traps saved and you can sleep the sleep of the innocent. God Bless.BleachedAnusDawg said:
I had a short wedge for eagle ruined by those stupid fucking foam inserts in the cups.Bob_C said:
When my course reopened in May 2020 and we were restricted to 2 somes, we had members ratting out groups that merged into 4somes out on the course.hardhat said:
Inslee still has emergency powers.Bob_C said:
I’m still convinced that Inslee shut down golf courses because Trump likes to golf.WestlinnDuck said:
Who did Trump lockdown? In Oregon, anything that was locked down was because of Kate Brown's illegal executive order. Wasn't Trump that dumped sawdust of the local school tennis court.LoneStarDawg said: -
Unclear but probably yes. Could have been houses on the course calling it in too.RoadTrip said:
So essentially the fags nobody wants to play with?Bob_C said:
When my course reopened in May 2020 and we were restricted to 2 somes, we had members ratting out groups that merged into 4somes out on the course.hardhat said:
Inslee still has emergency powers.Bob_C said:
I’m still convinced that Inslee shut down golf courses because Trump likes to golf.WestlinnDuck said:
Who did Trump lockdown? In Oregon, anything that was locked down was because of Kate Brown's illegal executive order. Wasn't Trump that dumped sawdust of the local school tennis court.LoneStarDawg said: -
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Printing that and mounting on the wall above my desk at the office.Bob_C said: -
BIPOC Shakur?WestlinnDuck said:
BIPOCs have lower Vitamin D levels than white people. Remember the CDC recommending to coloreds to take Vitamin D? Nope, it was get the chicom crud and then take some Tylenol until you need a ventilator.LebamDawg said:
without attempting to look at the figures - it is obvious that brown, black and as "they" call them BIPOCs in the high death rate states make up the majority of the deaths. So racism.Bob_C said:
Been saying this for over a year. You can isolate FL and CA in a vacuum and make a generic claim that vaccines, masks were the difference. But then what explains TX vs CA or UT vs WA?GrundleStiltzkin said:
The correct answer is there is no answer, and that's why any sort of mitigation/mandate policy was fucking stupid.
The first time I heard BIPOC I thought it was a gay thing. Then when I found out what it was I laughed my ass off. Same with Latinx. People can fuck off with the made up bullshit. -
One thing we learned is who is more than willing to be agents for the state to turn in those who resist. We've seen it over and over in history. This trial run smoked them out.Bob_C said:
Unclear but probably yes. Could have been houses on the course calling it in too.RoadTrip said:
So essentially the fags nobody wants to play with?Bob_C said:
When my course reopened in May 2020 and we were restricted to 2 somes, we had members ratting out groups that merged into 4somes out on the course.hardhat said:
Inslee still has emergency powers.Bob_C said:
I’m still convinced that Inslee shut down golf courses because Trump likes to golf.WestlinnDuck said:
Who did Trump lockdown? In Oregon, anything that was locked down was because of Kate Brown's illegal executive order. Wasn't Trump that dumped sawdust of the local school tennis court.LoneStarDawg said:
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You gals are stupid. Too many conspiracy theories. -
Racisthardhat said:
You gals are stupid. Too many conspiracy theories. -
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I figured we’d have pull forward deaths in 2020, and by now we’d be seeing fewer than 2017-2019. The vaccines are killing people.LoneStarDawg said:
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That's why they call it the death jab.
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Q Mr. President, do you believe that Governor DeSantis and Governor Abbott are personally making decisions that are harming their own citizens?
THE PRESIDENT: I believe the results of their decisions are not good for their constituents. And it’s clear to me and to most of the medical experts that the decisions being made, like not allowing mask mandates in school and the like, are bad health policy — bad health policy.
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Totally normal to get clots in your lung and calf this spring
https://www.al.com/sec/2022/08/kirk-herbstreit-reveals-he-had-blood-clots-thats-where-people-die-and-so-i-was-just-like-damn.html -
That's a clone. The real Herbie is being held at Gitmo.LoneStarDawg said:Totally normal to get clots in your lung and calf this spring
https://www.al.com/sec/2022/08/kirk-herbstreit-reveals-he-had-blood-clots-thats-where-people-die-and-so-i-was-just-like-damn.html -
@OBK true ?!Doogles said:
That's a clone. The real Herbie is being held at Gitmo.LoneStarDawg said:Totally normal to get clots in your lung and calf this spring
https://www.al.com/sec/2022/08/kirk-herbstreit-reveals-he-had-blood-clots-thats-where-people-die-and-so-i-was-just-like-damn.html -
I’d also scan is brain for clots since he’s so bullish about our(?) DwagsDoogles said:
That's a clone. The real Herbie is being held at Gitmo.LoneStarDawg said:Totally normal to get clots in your lung and calf this spring
https://www.al.com/sec/2022/08/kirk-herbstreit-reveals-he-had-blood-clots-thats-where-people-die-and-so-i-was-just-like-damn.html -