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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 18,012 Standard Supporter
    jecornel said:
    Yep. EV is clearly the future if you believe in unicorns.

    https://ace.mu.nu/

    Electric vs Gas-Powered Pickup Towing Competition Goes Very Poorly for the EV

    Journalists Tow Camper Behind Electric Truck, End in Stunning Failure When They Only Make it 85 Miles

    A fully-charged, electric Ford F150 and a fueled-up GMC Denali V-8 towing identical 25-foot trailers headed out from Longmont, CO with the intent to drive 147 miles to Pueblo, where the Ford could recharge at a fast-charging station.

    The electric Ford’s estimated range was 160 miles. It quickly became clear that Pueblo was unreachable, so plans were changed, and a fast-charging station in Colorado Springs was the new objective. It soon became clear that even Colorado Springs was unreachable.

    With low battery warnings blazing, and power automatically reduced to 90 percent, the electric truck, with 9 percent left on its battery, hobbled into a Target parking lot in Castle Rock.
    But that caused another problem. Battery chargers tend to be lined in rows on the edge of parking lots. Because they do not provide a drive-through like a traditional gas pump, they cannot accommodate a vehicle with a trailer.

    As a result, the F150 test vehicle and trailer were blocking a major portion of Target’s parking lot.

    So how did the gas-powered truck do?

    Its computer showed 129 miles of remaining range, so that driver had enough range to return to their starting point in Longmont.
    I’m not sure whom I’m more afraid of – those credulous enough to believe that EVs can replace gas-powered vehicles, or the elites who know the limitations of EVs yet still intend to push forward in outlawing gas-powered vehicles.
  • Sources
    Sources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,421 Founders Club
    EVs of course have their pros and cons, but to draw any sort of broad conclusion from this is just silly.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 18,012 Standard Supporter
    Sources said:

    EVs of course have their pros and cons, but to draw any sort of broad conclusion from this is just silly.

    Really? You have a massively expensive EV truck with a very short range and provides no real CO2 emission relief and is supported by huge federal and state tax incentives that is easily outperformed by an ICE that is subject to fed and state penalties. And you can't draw any broad conclusions?
  • Sources
    Sources Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,421 Founders Club
    edited July 2022

    Sources said:

    EVs of course have their pros and cons, but to draw any sort of broad conclusion from this is just silly.

    Really? You have a massively expensive EV truck with a very short range and provides no real CO2 emission relief and is supported by huge federal and state tax incentives that is easily outperformed by an ICE that is subject to fed and state penalties. And you can't draw any broad conclusions?
    I was thinking more technologically, which seems to be the point of the video, not subsidies and emissions. Do you really think it's the right time to definitively conclude that EV technology is inferior despite being essentially 100 years behind ICE development?

    Not to mention that Ford is hardly the authority on EV tech, having just jumped on the bandwagon recently.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 18,012 Standard Supporter
    Sources said:

    Sources said:

    EVs of course have their pros and cons, but to draw any sort of broad conclusion from this is just silly.

    Really? You have a massively expensive EV truck with a very short range and provides no real CO2 emission relief and is supported by huge federal and state tax incentives that is easily outperformed by an ICE that is subject to fed and state penalties. And you can't draw any broad conclusions?
    I was thinking more technologically, which seems to be the point of the video, not subsidies and emissions. Do you really think it's the right time to definitively conclude that EV technology is inferior despite being essentially 100 years behind ICE development?

    Not to mention that Ford is hardly the authority on EV tech, having just jumped on the bandwagon recently.
    Let the market work. That's the broad conclusion, and right now, EVs can't compete. I have no problem if you want to virtue signal and buy an EV. I just don't want to pay for it and I don't want you to punish me economically for buying an ICE. But that's not what is happening and the left and soft minded Americans are letting it happen as we destroy are economy.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,486 Founders Club
    Not one person above me in this thread even owns a truck.

    GTFO
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,766 Standard Supporter
    I own a truck and I tow a10k+ trailer. You're not doing that with electric. Can't transport goods across the country either like a semi. They don't Fucking work. They don't work in fleet iteration either of there is more than one shift.

    Have to wait for the rainbow fart super chargers and unobtainium batteries.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,791 Standard Supporter
    Look at that little downvoting faggot go.

  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    I know of a couple that was planning a long trip in their newer EV.

    After researching their route and available charging stations they realized that it was not going to work.

    They didn’t want to risk getting stranded so they loaded up their reliable GAS vehicle and hit the road.