USC/UCLA sell Pac 12 couch

TheHB said:

For me, it's simple. Big10 or bust. If UW ends up in the Big10, I actually think it could be a good thing. If UW ends up in the Big12 or there is some kind of merger between the remaining Pac teams and the Big12 or ACC or anything else, fuck it. The end has come.

Kind of... a Pac 12/Big 12/ACC merger could work if the right teams came a long

Oregon
Washington
Stanford
Arizona
Colorado
Clemson
Florida St.
Miami
Virginia Tech
Virginia
Oklahoma St
Baylor
Notre Dame
Boston College
Pitt
UNC

This conference could have potential. Football would be a bit lower, but not embarrassingly bad. Basketball would be unreal!

haie said:

Oregon and Washington, despite all these dumb ass rumors that the B1G is standing pat, should tell the Pac 12 to suck their dicks and give them an exponentially higher revenue share, go and maximize revenue as much as you can even if it means going with Amazon Prime, or fuck off.

If the Pac 12 really does feel like they need to expand, they should go get Hawaii and San Diego State.

Fuck getting Boise State.

Oregon and Washington could split 50% of the remaining deal and still bring in half what the super conference teams will bring in. Financially, there are two viable options. And keeping the Pac 12 with Oregon and Washington carrying the flag is not it.

LawDawg1 said:

"Colorado/Utah - please step to the front of the class."

LawDawg1 said:

UW and Oregon need to go actively and loudly speak with the SEC. Make the BIG consider they could lose Seattle and Portland TV markets and the west coast pod. Force the offer.

Or... more likely... get shunned by the SEC and lose any credibility whatsoever and maintain being the laughing stock of the country.

My guess is Oregon will do whatever it takes while UW will try to do it "the right way" and be stuck. Exactly as (not) planned.

Not trying to quook it up but Oregon will do all the work and if we go you go. So rest your head.

MikeSeaver said:

Bob_C said:

LawDawg1 said:

Fuck off to those that down voted me in the other thread.

Well it still sounds like bullshit. When did they poll the public on this, ever? The entire notion this could happened started yesterday.

Also too, this will probably end up being the truth knowing the fuckwits in the NW running the show. I’m allowed to say this as a flaming liberal.

I'm pretty sure that in the recent past there have been quotes from Cohen and others about the need to preserve rivalries, etc in the context of realignment happening.

Edit: Yes, "I'm pretty sure" is my source.

I’ve been on the “let’s abandon this sinking ship for the Big Ten and their money” team for about 3-4 years. The writing was on the wall.

I hate the end result of the best case scenario. Butt- fuck the Rose Bowl, conference rivalries, and geography when the other option is irrelevance.

USC and UCLA’s new ADs knew they were getting fucked by Larry Scott’s shit deal - why should they (~60% of the media market) or Oregon (most produced revenue for conference sharing over ~15 years) get equitable splits with Cuog et al? I don’t blame them for defecting, or defecating for that matter, on this mess.

The Pac-12 presidents killed this shit with their apathy. Arizona State’s and Oregon State’s are the main culprits, they propped up that confidence man instead of deporting him back to watching Eastern European lesbians grunting.

Scenarios:

1. Notre Dame chimos join Pedo State and others, ACC told to fuck themselves.
A. To make 18 teams Big Ten takes Stanford.
B. To make 20 teams Big Ten also takes Oregon and Washington.

2. Pac-10 remains, revenue gap grows. Big fish small pond option.
A. builds around UO/UW and is arguing with ACC and Big-12 over who should get the play-in game against the SEC 5th place team for a chance to go to the impending expanded playoff.
B. Attempts to expand. Throws out offers to Big-12 schools or second tier schools with a media market. SDSU? UNLV? Hawaii? Those jump at the chance. Big-12 schools are trickier, but their presidents would maybe do it.

3. Big-12 poaches or conferences merge.
A. Fuck you.
B. Fuck me.
C. Fuck everyone.

4. Best available revenue producing scraps are brought together by Amazon Prime. Or AppleTV. Or Fubu.
A. A football only conference of Oregon, Washington, Clemson, Florida State, 1/2 Notre Dame, UNC, Pitt, Miami, Utah, Okie State, Baylor, TCU, Cincy, Stanford, BYU etc. Split that shit into divisions.

That’s my order of preference, if I still had feelings. I still think this winds up as two mega conferences as I’ve been saying for years. I don’t know, you don’t know, the Big Ten commish doesn’t know, everything is unpredictable.

RaceBannon said:

creepycoug said:

One thing partially good that comes out of this: the whole "USC respects us" shit should be officially out of the window from here on out. They picked their soft powder blue cross-town rival and said "come along." There's no way the egg heads at UCLA thought this up on their own.

And off they'll go with no care in the world about the teams ... and history ... they leave behind.

That was all in your head anyway

USC was and is west coast football

Incorrect.

MikeDamone said:

RatherBeBrewing said:

I’ve been on the “let’s abandon this sinking ship for the Big Ten and their money” team for about 3-4 years. The writing was on the wall.

I hate the end result of the best case scenario. Butt- fuck the Rose Bowl, conference rivalries, and geography when the other option is irrelevance.

USC and UCLA’s new ADs knew they were getting fucked by Larry Scott’s shit deal - why should they (~60% of the media market) or Oregon (most produced revenue for conference sharing over ~15 years) get equitable splits with Cuog et al? I don’t blame them for defecting, or defecating for that matter, on this mess.

The Pac-12 presidents killed this shit with their apathy. Arizona State’s and Oregon State’s are the main culprits, they propped up that confidence man instead of deporting him back to watching Eastern European lesbians grunting.

Scenarios:

1. Notre Dame chimos join Pedo State and others, ACC told to fuck themselves.
A. To make 18 teams Big Ten takes Stanford.
B. To make 20 teams Big Ten also takes Oregon and Washington.

2. Pac-10 remains, revenue gap grows. Big fish small pond option.
A. builds around UO/UW and is arguing with ACC and Big-12 over who should get the play-in game against the SEC 5th place team for a chance to go to the impending expanded playoff.
B. Attempts to expand. Throws out offers to Big-12 schools or second tier schools with a media market. SDSU? UNLV? Hawaii? Those jump at the chance. Big-12 schools are trickier, but their presidents would maybe do it.

3. Big-12 poaches or conferences merge.
A. Fuck you.
B. Fuck me.
C. Fuck everyone.

4. Best available revenue producing scraps are brought together by Amazon Prime. Or AppleTV. Or Fubu.
A. A football only conference of Oregon, Washington, Clemson, Florida State, 1/2 Notre Dame, UNC, Pitt, Miami, Utah, Okie State, Baylor, TCU, Cincy, Stanford, BYU etc. Split that shit into divisions.

That’s my order of preference, if I still had feelings. I still think this winds up as two mega conferences as I’ve been saying for years. I don’t know, you don’t know, the Big Ten commish doesn’t know, everything is unpredictable.

Hi would you do a playoff?

In retrospect? No. Would you?

That was the straw nail that broke the camel’s coffin, more so than NIL ever could.

In scenario one? Yeah, but they might as well just have a the Big Ten champ play the SEC runner up for a chance to take on the SEC champ.